May 19, 2013

So…You’re Sayin’ There’s a Chance

It happened almost five days ago, and most of us are all still in disbelief about the absolute dismantling that took place at the hands of the Southern California Trojans.  No, we were not favored.  But even the most pessimistic Buckeye fan did not imagine that the Scarlet and Gray would fail to score a touchdown.  Not one.  Senseless penalties, questionable play-calling, and downright lifelessness all lead to the debacle in Los Angeles, California.

The result?  Well, you have a slew of opinions from fans, as well as those who were waiting for the Buckeyes to fail.  Take your pick…We have the comments from our open blog.  We even have the take from our friends over at Eleven Warriors.  And then there are the others

All in all, the consensus among journalists, bloggers and fans of college football: The Buckeyes’ hopes of a National Championship are done.  Kaput.  Finished.  And more often than not, you have a splash of “We told you so.”  Alas, the polls took us down a few rungs as the Associated Press has Ohio State 13th, USA Today places them 14th, and the Coaches Poll is 11th.  Regardless, there are about a dozen teams ahead of Ohio State, and this is all before the BCS even releases their initial take on matters.

But while all hope appears to be squashed, did we not all say the same thing after last season’s week 10 loss to Illinois?  The following week, Ohio State was placed seventh in the AP Poll, as well as the BCS Standings – quite a difference from 13th.  However, it was considerably later in the season that offered a lot less time to make up ground.

But it happened.

Believe it or not, losing to the best team in the nation at any point in the season is not that bad.   The score?  Sure.  Awful.  But last I checked, margin of victory (or loss) did not matter.  Factor in the point that it is better to lose earlier than later, and things actually may look up.  Last season provided us with a complete meltdown of all six teams ahead of Ohio State; something that is completely unheard of.  Or was. Black Swan or not, that event now becomes possible in the realm of statistics, so why not again?

With that said, here is a quick look at the 12 teams that are ahead of Ohio State in the current AP Poll…

1. USC (61) 2-0 1,596
2. Oklahoma 3-0 1,485
3. Georgia (2) 3-0 1,437
4. Florida (1) 2-0 1,414
5. Missouri 3-0 1,389
6. LSU 2-0 1,274
7. Texas 2-0 1,140
8. Wisconsin 3-0 1,076
9. Alabama 3-0 982
10. Auburn 3-0 958
11. Texas Tech 3-0 904
12. South Florida 3-0 801

Now, all it takes is one quick glance to realize that several of these teams will lose a game.  That’s what happens when there are a handful of teams from the SEC that all play each other and that you cannot tie in college football.

But what counts is also when these teams lose, and who they lose to.  It’s bound to happen to a handful, but can they have a merry-go-round of beating themselves at the same time?

So given all of this, let’s break down the remaining schedules for all of the teams currently ranked above The Ohio State University.

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12) South Florida
Conference: Big East
Remaining Schedule: @FIU, @NC State, Pitt, Syracuse, @ Louisville, @ Cincinnati, Rutgers, UCONN, @ West Virgina

If this were basketball, I would feel a lot better about this remaining slate.  Squeaking past Kansas was a huge win for USF.  However, UCONN is also undefeated.  And despite one loss, West Virginia is still a top-25 team.  The back-to-backs at Louisville and Cincy could pose some trouble in the middle of the season.  It’s looking like a three-team race in the Big East for right now, but a loss to one of the Louisville/Cincy pair would knock the Bulls down several pegs.  What needs to happen?  Any loss to the abovementioned.

11) Texas Tech
Conference: Big 12
Remaining Schedule: UMass, @Kansas St, Nebraska, @Texas A&M, @Kansas, Texas, Oklahoma St, @Oklahoma, Baylor

The Big 12…Quarterback haven.  Too bad I don’t think that even Bobby Knight could help the Red Raiders get through the second half of this schedule unscathed.  Oklahoma and Oklahoma State are both 3-0.  Texas is right there with two wins and joins Oklahoma in the top 10; and traveling to Kansas will not be a cakewalk by any means.  So with a minimum of three tough games, Ohio State fans should be able to root for these guys to lose to any of said three match-ups.  Heck, even two losses for good measure sound good to me, though that means more work for the other teams to come up with a loss.  But we won’t get ahead of ourselves…

10) Auburn
Conference: SEC
Remaining Schedule: LSU, Tennessee, @Vanderbilt, Arkansas, @West Virginia, @Mississippi, Tennessee Martin, Georgia, @Alabama

The first of several SEC teams we’ll discuss, Auburn obviously has their work cut out for them as well.  Though already disappointing on opening night, Tennessee could easily surprise the Tigers in two weeks.  As mentioned, West Virginia is a ranked out of conference opponent.  And obviously, Georgia will be a tough game right before the final week.  LSU is the sixth ranked team in the nation, so if they can get by those Tigers, a loss to Tennessee or Georgia would do the trick.  Ideally, Tennessee would be the one we need given their place in the rankings – or lack thereof.

9) Alabama
Conference: SEC
Remaining Schedule: @Arkansas, @Georgia, Kentucky, Mississippi, @Tennessee, Arkansas St, @LSU, Mississippi St, Auburn

Traveling to Georgia, Tennesee and LSU will be a chore in and of itself.  But if the Tide can somehow pull out a season of dreams and meet Auburn for the final game of the season, just imagine all of the houndstooth hats that would be out for that November meeting.  But just like every other member of the SEC, there are bound to be teams in this list that will top others, and whether it is one of the three mentioned or another intra-conference game, it will be quite a feat if ‘Bama can stay in the top 10 come the end of the season.  And if they do, you won’t find a bigger Auburn fan in the land come that weekend.

8 ) Wisconsin
Conference: Big Ten
Remaining Schedule: @Michigan, Ohio State, Penn State, @Iowa, Illinois, @Michigan State, @Indiana, Minnesota, Cal Poly

A team we know all too well.  A loss at the Big House would be huge for Ohio State, but given their showing this past weekend I am unsure that we can hold our breath on this one.  If anything, you now have a reason to root for Michigan.  But if the Blue can’t get it done, the ball is in our court.  A head-to-head win would be a perfect way to gain some ground on the top spot in the rankings.  I do not want to have to count on Penn State or Illinois to do the job, though both teams are more than capable.  A loss here and we’re d-u-n, done.

7) Texas
Conference: Big 12
Remaining Schedule: Arkansas, Rice, @Colorado, Oklahoma, Missouri, Oklahoma State, @Texas Tech, Baylor, @Kansas

The southern portion of the Big 12 is a tough place to be this season – or any season for that matter.  Thankfully for the Longhorns, their match-ups against Oklahoma and Missouri are at home.  Unfortunately for Texas, they’ll be playing exactly that: Oklahoma and Missouri.  The road games against Texas Tech and Kansas will also be tough to weather, even if they do get to play Baylor in between.  Regardless of how good Texas is, they’ll be in for a rude awakening if they’re expecting any of these games to be like the Florida Atlantic or UTEP contests.  Perhaps they can hope for more postponed games?

6) LSU
Conference: SEC
Remaining Schedule: @Auburn, Mississippi St, @Florida, @South Carolina, Georgia, Tulane, Alabama, Mississippi, Arkansas

The fun could start this week for LSU as they travel to Auburn, and then to Florida two weeks later.  If they manage to get through that gauntlet, the Tigers have Georgia waiting for them right before Halloween.  There’s a reason why the LSU/Auburn game is the prime time broadcast on ESPN, so you can bet all eyes will be on this one – including those that reside in the state of Ohio as this one has just as big of implications as any other game on the docket.  Did you know the SEC is “fast?”

5) Missouri
Conference: Big 12
Remaining Schedule: Buffalo, @Nebraska, Oklahoma St, @Texas, Colorado, @Baylor, Kasnas St, @Iowa St, Kansas

After topping Illinois in a great opening week match, Missouri may in fact have the easiest road to the national title game, assuming they can get past the Texas Longhorns – posing their biggest challenge from here out.  Kansas during the final week could be a nail-biter, but I would just feel a lot more comfortable as a Buckeye fan if Missouri happened to stumble before the final week of the season.  A very, very strong team that could win it all if given the chance.  I just don’t want them to have that chance.

4) Florida
Conference: SEC
Remaining Schedule: @Tennessee, Mississippi, @Arkansas, LSU, Kentucky, Georgia, @ Vanderbilt, South Carolina, The Citadel, @Florida State

As good as Florida has been over these last two weeks, I find it difficult to believe that Hawaii and Miami have prepared Florida enough for what is to come.  The game in Tennessee could be a huge upset for the Volunteers, and you can bet I’ll be pulling for the “T” to top Tebow and company this weekend.  LSU and Georgia are waiting for their crack at Urban’s crew, and Florida State is looking to prove a point as they have climbed back into the national rankings.  An FSU win would be huge for both the Seminoles and the Buckeyes, but we’ll have to get there first.

3) Georgia
Conference: SEC
Remaining Schedule: @Arizona St, Alabama, Tennessee, Vanderbilt, @LSU, Florida, @Kentucky, @Auburn, Georgia Tech

Speaking of Georgia… While they get to take on the Gators at home, traveling to LSU and Auburn to take on the pair of Tigers will not be easy.  And the Bulldogs will have to be careful that they aren’t looking ahead to far, as the Alabama Crimson Tide will be coming over to see if Uga is all that she’s been hyped to be.  Georgia is only a few points behind Oklahoma in the polls, but this band could be a lot wider after next weekend’s prime time clash.

2) Oklahoma
Conference: Big 12
Remaining Schedule: TCU, @Baylor, @Texas, Kansas, @Kansas St, Nebraska, @Texas A&M, Texas Tech, @Oklahoma St

If only I had more faith in Texas Tech.  The Sooners will get an idle week before locking up with TCU.  After that, they’ll have a decent stretch that is capped off against Kansas.  The Longhorns contest is in Dallas, which is technically in Texas.  This is another case where I would like for the team to lose sooner (no pun intended) than later given their late-season schedule.  Of course, stumbling against an unranked opponent would just be glorious, yet not likely.  And finally…

1) USC
Conference: Pac 10
Remaining Schedule: @Oregon St, Oregon, Arizona St, @Washington St, @Arizona, Washington, California, @Stanford, Notre Dame, @UCLA

The Trojans have a total of one nationally ranked opponent left on their schedule, and they will also be traveling to Los Angeles as the Ducks take on USC next weekend.  We can always hope for a late-season slip-up like the years previous, as you know UCLA has one game on their mind.  However, watching UCLA take on BYU last weekend, and my hopes of that have been quenched quite a bit.  Coupling the cake schedule with the fact that USC is a very powerful team, and it would be shocking if the Men of Troy were not on top of this list come the end of the regular season.

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But as Buckeye fans, this would be alright…for the most part.  Technically, all the Buckeyes need to do is get to the second spot on this list.  But would the BCS Committee allow for another OSU/USC game?  Assuming Beanie Wells comes back, the re-match wouldn’t exactly be a re-match.  But there was little chance that the Nation was going to see OSU/Michigan two seasons ago, so I would be hard-pressed to think that we could get to lock up with USC all over again.

With that said…Below, you will find (one of) the official road map(s) to a Buckeye assent:

9/20: Auburn over LSU
10/4: Ohio State over Wisconsin
10/11: Texas over Oklahoma
10/18: Texas over Missouri
10/25: Kansas over Texas Tech
10/25: LSU over Georgia
11/1: UCONN over USF
11/1: Texas Tech over Texas
11/1: Georgia over Florida
11/29: Alabama over Auburn
12/6: WVU over USF

November 1st could wind up being the best weekend of football over the entire season.  The end of October is not too shabby either.  But I digress…

Now it goes without saying that the Ohio State Buckeyes would have to win out against ranked opponents like Penn State and Illinois.  A loss to any conference opponent for that matter would make this entire exercise a complete waste of time – not that I mind.  And there are also more ways that this puzzle could form together given the Texas/Texas Tech/Kansas trio as well as LSU/Georgia/Florida and whom they all have to play from here on.  None of the wins listed above are far-fetched, but they’re also only a sliver of hope.  Or dismay, depending on the side of fence on which you reside.

If Texas runs the table, that takes care of three teams.  Ideally, having a team like Georgia run the table and then stumble against Auburn during the second last week of the season would be the best way to clean out the SEC.  Is this playing the system?  You bet it is.

And it also goes without saying that all 2000 words above this line are the complete ramblings of a Buckeye fan that would just like to see another shot at the title, even though we were completely embarrassed as a lifeless, confused team that could not get anything going last weekend.  And of course, if this incredibly slim-chanced plethora of wins and losses were to occur, would we even be given that third shot?  That is for the committee to decide.

But if it does happen, can you can just hear the heads of the collective NCAA football fan (outside of Ohio, naturally) explode?  A kid can dream…

  • Kunal

    so unlikely, but thanks for the piece, will definately be watching to games mentioned above

  • Kunal

    “the games” rather

  • http://www.waitingfornextyear.com Scott

    did you think it was likely last season? West Virginia would like to think so…

  • http://www.waitingfornextyear.com Scott

    and you’re welcome

  • Ricky

    I really think that a 2 loss SEC team would jump ahead of OSU. Maybe not even a 2 loss SEC team, maybe a 2 loss team with an equal resume as OSU. Lets say all those things happen, which is possible because anything can happen in college football, but does anyone outside of Ohio want to see OSU back in the title game? Not even close, others in Big Ten probably don’t either, because OSU has been making them all look bad by getting crushed on the biggest stage. Voters all over the country are going to do everything in their power to keep OSU out of that game, and who can blame them, we had our chance and now have to start focusing on the Big Ten title. And do we really think this OSU team would have any chance to win a national title? I love OSU, but this team is so crushed mentally right now. They have been putting so much pressure on themselves to win that they crumble on the big stage, and the loss to USC might have been the worse defeat yet to their morale. It is going to take a process for OSU to get their swagger back, and that process should include winning the Big Ten and then in turn at the very least being competitive in the Rose Bowl. I for one have seen OSU fail so terribly against top competition too many times in a row now for me to have any faith that this particular squad is the best in the country

  • Mike in CA

    I honestly think that an undefeated BYU (or any other undefeated non-BCS school) has a better shot then OSU for one main reason, people are tired of seeing OSU lose big games. They will never get the votes needed even if everything worked out like mentioned above. The only people who want to see OSU in a title game are OSU fans and Michigan fans (just to see them lose a big game again).

  • B-bo

    I have no desire to see this play out as proposed. I am sick of watching the Buckeyes implode when the stakes are high, and I have seen nothing from this squad to indicate they have the ability to bounce back. Let’s worry about the Big Ten title, and leave the national championship to the more elite teams.

  • http://www.waitingfornextyear.com Scott

    Ricky – fan disappointment aside, I don’t see how a loss to the top team in the nation is treated worse than two losses to lesser ranked opponents – at least in terms of the BCS standings that are mathematically calculated. When it comes to choosing the final game, perhaps, but standings, I’m just not seeing it.

    B-bo – I can understand given the hype this year, but I refuse to give up on this team, this early.

  • Swig

    I’m not sure I want to see them in the NC game either.

    After we win out we’ll still be in a BCS game and get to play one of the elite teams. Maybe without the pressure of playing for #1 they can come out and bring some respectability back.

  • http://www.waitingfornextyear.com Craig

    Nice piece, sir. One thing that I would like to point out is that Ohio State might actually not be the best team in the Big Ten. I watched Penn State twice already this season, and that team is one of their best in years. It is nice to have a trio of teams at the top of the Big Ten with Wisconsin, Penn State and Ohio State.

    While we constantly focus on Ohio State for good reason, Ohio State’s reputation is also a factor of the quality of the other teams in the Big Ten. I hope Penn State, Wisconsin, Illinois, and even those RichRod boys in Michigan continue to get better so that Ohio State can continue to get respect when they find a year when they are fortunate enough to run the table.

  • http://www.waitingfornextyear.com Scott

    Thanks, Craig. I agree…I was actually pulling for UM this weekend against ND. I think we need to start being fans of the Big Ten just as much as OSU these days.

  • http://justrubsomesugaronit.blogspot.com I’m Ron Burgundy?

    Given the media’s love-fest for Bucky Badger and JoePa I think a one-loss Penn State or Wisconsin team might get the nod over us, especially if the game is close in Cbus against PSU.

    I’d love to see the Bucks have sole posession of the Big Ten trophy again, but to be honest it might be best for everyone (besides the seniors) if we don’t win out the rest of the year. I still am not sure if the SC loss is enough to get through to the team coordinators, etc that we need to get our heads out of our proverbial behinds.

  • DCBucks

    No chance the human polls move OSU back into the top five, even if we run the table. Assuming the rest of the planets align, 50 point blow out wins from here on out wouldn’t carry enough weight considering the Big Ten street cred at this point.

    A top five finish is still possible after the bowl season, assuming a Rose Bowl win.

    Don’t rule out playing U$C in Pasadena. They have a history of laying an egg against a lesser PAC-10 team. Maybe a healthy Beanie, a starting TP, a 2 month game plan from our deficient coaches, and the revenge factor would prevail.

    I can foresee Oklahoma and a 1-loss SEC team (over a 1-loss U$C team) in the NC game.

  • T.J.

    Scott, it has nothing to do with WHO the Buckeyes are losing to and EVERYTHING to do with HOW they are losing.

    The continuing saga of tOSU becoming roadkill on the big stage will lead to many voters being hesitant to help them up the polls.

  • DCBucks

    Of course we could watch another “Best Ever” Oklahoma team get crushed in a 3rd NC game. So let’s see that would be five BCS bowl losses including: back-to-back NC games, 3 straight, and a 3rd NC game. But tOSU is overrated and hated. Yeah, no media bias there.

  • Drew

    I love the column. This is what makes college football so great. As I see it, only six teams matter: BCS conference champions. We can’t jump an undefeated conference champ, but even if we have six one-loss conference champs, it would be difficult to jump a one-loss SEC champion and/or a one-loss Big 12 champ. I like the logic of how these clusters of teams all play each other which ensures OSU will rise, but the flip side of that coin is teams emerging from those clusters are very hard to pass because of who they beat. I think our chances largely depend on when these teams lose, not necessarily who they lose to.

  • Hoy

    We won’t be in the NC game if USC stays undefeated. Michigan/OSU was a very close 1/2 game and the voters still didn’t give UM another shot, theres no way we’re getting a shot after that beating. And while margin of victory may not count for BCS computer rankings, the AP voters know damn good and well how bad of a loss that was.

    Winning the big 10 and the Rose Bowl wold be a great way to pull something out of this year.

    If USC runs the table I’d like to see Bama wind up in that 2 spot somehow.

  • The Dude

    I guess I am one those rare Ohio State fans who would still like to see them play in the BCS Title game. Regardless of what has happened in years past and, even this year, anything can happen in college football. Everyone ruled us out last season and all the peices fell the right way. I am not saying that it will happen again this year, but if it does I’m not going to worry about another embarrassing loss. It’s just dissapointing to see how many fans have given up hope with this years squad. I realize it was a terrible loss but there is a lot of football left to play and who knows what could happen.

  • Lyon

    You people who say we played bad last week and don’t deserve to be in the NC if this plays out are overlooking something. If we are to win out the rest of the year, we will have been playing 10x better than last week. If we go into Wis. and beat them, then handle PSU and Illinois, then would you people be saying we don’t deserve it?

    Now I’m not expecting this scenario to happen, and would be happy w/ just a Big 10 title, it’s not totally impossible, as seen last year.

    @ Ron Burgandy: I don’t see a 1 loss PSU or Wis. team jumping us, since we are the ones giving them the loss.

  • E

    I’m sorry, but are you insane? The Bucks have been embarrassed three years in a row. They don’t deserve and won’t even be in the mix for another title shot.

    Ohio State has a long, difficult road to travel before getting any national attention or respect. The reputation of choking in big games and against top 10 competition has been earned without doubt. No one is more frustrated by that than me, but it’s the truth.

    If it had been just Florida, fine. That and LSU, ok, maybe. THREE in a row? That’s not a fluke, there is no rational reason for it, they just aren’t good enough.

    It’ll be a long time before anyone takes the team seriously.

  • http://www.waitingfornextyear.com Scott

    At no point does this piece say that a title shot is “deserved.” At no point did I say that we are owed respect right now. We lost to the best team in the nation, and I’m just saying that it is mathematically possible for the BCS computers to move us up the ranks by year-end.

  • Tony

    Minor factual problem: Georgia and Florida play in Jacksonville, just as they have every year since the 1960s except for 1994 and 1995 while the Gator Bowl (now Alltel Stadium) was being renovated for the Jaguars.

  • http://justrubsomesugaronit.blogspot.com I’m Ron Burgundy?

    Lyon,
    If the Bucks barely beat Penn State at home I can still see PSU getting the nod – it’s early enough in the season that they could make up for it in the rankings after the game. Right now they’re close to us in the polls as it is, and if the keep rolling like they have they’ll jump ahead.

    Right now there’s a stigma about the team that’s going to have a lot more people trying to keep them from the spotlight for a while.

    There’s no way a team from the Big Ten deserves to play in the NC game, not without PSU or Badgerbadgerbadger doing something amazing this year like continuing to roll through the entire Big Ten and winning by 30+ every game. The SEC and Big 12 are beastly this year. Hell, the MWC looks comparable to the Big Ten right now to be honest. But, at least the ACC and the Big East look horrible so far.

  • joe

    You really want to be embarassed again.

  • urban

    you talked about Georgia getting the Gators at home – while technically it is a home game gor the buldogs it will be played at the worlds larges outdoor cocktail party in jacksonville (a neutral site) so while georgia will be wearing the home reds (or black) there will be just as many gator fans as bulldog fans hence no home field advantage.

    Also stop slurping the Big 11 – 3 times now OSU has gone into a game against a superior opponent. Twice they were favored see Glendale and New Orleans and once they were an underdog primed for a huge upset. The only thing that was consistent was the big hard bruising buckeye defense who no team in the country could move the ball against got SMOKED

    GO GATORS 42-14

  • Randy Watson

    Nice article. This has inspired me to find a similar scenario for my Blue Devils. Maybe we’ll meet for the National Title!

  • duce

    You OSU fans are delusional. How many a$$ whuppins must you recieve from far superior out of conference opponents before you shut the hell up?

  • Matt

    “While they get to take on the Gators at home”… last time I checked the FL/GA game has been played in Jacksonville every year since the 1930s. Damn yankees can’t get anything right.

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  • DawgcityClev

    Waiting for Pryor to Sanzenbacher? That’s the most ridiculous thing I’ve ever heard. Sanzenbacher shouldn’t be on the same field with Pryor. How about Pryor to Posey. Pryor to Thomas. Pryor to Jamaal Berry out the backfield.

    LOL I can’t believe this guy has that mess at the top of this page. But as for the scenarios, with Boeckman at QB, and Tressel’s bad decision-making, who would want that to play out? Even being a staunch Buckeye fan, unless Tressel gets it together, his job may be on the line after 2 more losses.

  • IndyBored

    So – with Oregon State upsetting USC – you’re saying there’s a chance???

    OSU runs the table… Georgia loses to Alabama, Oklahoma loses to Texas – and Pryor and Wells start pouring it on the Big 10… could be… might be…

    nahhhh…..