Groundhog Day: “Don’t Throw Angry”

I’ll be the first to bite, yes, I’m a fan of fiery SGT Winslow as anyone, but like you said the numbers don’t lie. I think they saw this coming as well, Martin Rucker anyone? Sadly the trade deadline has come and gone, but Winslow is a lot more talented then Shockey and could get us a nice draft package from some team, like say the Dolphins? His personality and skill set should interest Al Davis at the least.

It actually might be refreshing to have more then the normal amount of draft picks next year and not less.

The true sign will be next week against the Ravens. If KW2 plays and DA goes back to playing like a Kentucky QB then it may be time to start looking at other options for next season.

Two good games for DA without Winslow is enough to make you wonder, but not enough to be sure. It’s very possible that DA/Winslow is like Eli/Shockey.

Then again, I wonder what kind of numbers Brady Quinn would put up with Winslow.

Just wondering:
Maybe Winslow needs that extra receiver (Joe J) to be successful? It takes a little bit more focus off him and leads him to more open routes underneath?

I could be totally wrong here, but after Braylon and more recently Stallworth, teams have been able to key in on Sarge as pretty much our 2nd receiver. Maybe it has more to do with his role in the offense, not just his abilities.

just remember to aim high, I don’t want anything to happen to the gopher!

Maybe we try Winslow in the slot. Heiden is a meaningfully better blocker and you can see it just by watching Lewis’ runs and DA’s time in the pocket yesterday. I say we try Winslow in the slot, have him run some routes over the middle and down the field, let Heiden take care of the blocking and short routes.

I’d like to bring the spotlight back to DA here…He is terrible against good Defenses! Look at last year’s games against good Ds. BAD. Look at this year’s games against good Ds….WORSE! Jax is NOT a good D….they are average, but nowhere near good.

I would say that The Giants game was a “trap” game for them, they underestimated the Browns, and the O-line blocked their butts off. Anderson and Edwards felt the pressure of the spotlight and stepped up.

I think he’s bound to fall on his face when playing more good Defenses. The problem is, will he string enough of those bad games together to warrant a switch?

Or will he drop in a good game against an average D like Denver or Indy or bad Defenses like Cincy?

by the way – the 4th and 1 call was the best call all year – Chud for president.

I made the “Office Space” joke to someone today…if DA misses a practice for a meeting with the Bobs, then we have problems.

Here’s the way I look at it – does 10-6 make the playoffs in the AFC this year? There’s probably going to be a 10-6 team on the bubble again, and the only upside is that Cleveland now owns a wildcard tiebreaker over the Jags.

(Wait…playoffs? I’m talking playoffs?)

I’m looking at this schedule and I can’t see this team only losing 2 games in the next 5, let alone 2 games in the rest of the season. So someone needs to give DA some proper motivation other than “play just hard enough not to get benched.” As far as I’m concerned, the microsecond this team hits it’s 6th loss (which could come in the next two weeks – Baltimore and Denver within 5 days of each other is tough, even if it is at home), DA is benched and shouldn’t see another snap unless Quinn gets hurt or turns into the second coming of Couch. The conversation should go something like this…

“Derek, you’ve shown some flashes of better than averageness, and some streaks of suckiness. You know we’ve got a golden boy here ready to take your job, at least 50% of the fan base ready to take it, and a coaching staff that’s desperate to at least get some sort of value for you. So here’s the deal – the job is your’s until we hit 6 losses. So you want to play the rest of the season, then win. Otherwise, it’s time to look to the future.”

If that’s not motivation, I don’t know what is.

If you can’t tell, put me in the category that the problem is much more an inconsistent DA than a primadonna Winslow.

I’m not trying to say that Winslow is a bad player, I certainly picked him as a fantasy TE last year (starter) and this year (backup behind Gonzalez). I’m just calling it like I’ve seen it this year. We’re nearly halfway through the season and 66% of our wins come while K2 is out. We also beat 1 very good and 1 decent team with him out. Heiden has put up good numbers in the two games he has played more of a role.

Maybe these games are anomalies, and the key factor is DA going into panic mode and playing like crazy to keep his job. Maybe its the whole team stepping up in the next game after bad losses.

2 games is certainly not enough to make a firm decision about changing the team. That’s how franchises ruin themselves. But its certainly time to start identifying trends that should be looked for in the games to come.

I agree with Rock. I don’t love K2, but to say the team is better off without him is just stupid. The team is better off without a QB that can’t find any kind of consistency in his game. It’s better off without DA period. The opposing defense always has to worry about K2, it’s not K2′s fault if his offensive coordinator and QB can’t figure out a way to advantage of the mismatches he creates.

Heiden is playing well right now which should be a bonus for the offense. Put K2 in the slot and throw him some slants. Show the same look and release Heiden down field with the Lewis picking up his man. We have the personnel at every position now to make this offense purr. That is with the exception of a good QB that won’t lose his nerve and the game.

With all that money Rock you could probably buy yourself a date with K2 and finally consummate your relationship with him!

Let’s not sugar coat it… after the first touchdown I believe my (ok i’m sugarcoating it somewhat to keep it family friendly) comment was, “oh [crap] now we’re going to be stuck with him again” followed by, “I wonder if the Jaguars are just letting him have a good half so we won’t switch QBs and end up getting shut down in the 2nd half.” Well, what happened in the 2nd half? One good pass to Steptoe who turned it into far more?

Wait and see how Kellen plays w/ Brady before we make a decision on him. BQ is going to be the QB next season, so see how he plays with K2 before determining he hurts our offense. Brady doesn’t throw deep as much, so a good catching TE would benefit him more than DA.

I don’t think Winslow has anything to do with DA’s performances…nor does Heiden, or formations, or anthying else we can think of. There’s only one word that sums up DA’s problem….I-N-C-O-N-S-I-S-T-E-N-C-Y. Hey, all professional athletes suffer from it, but most not to the degree he does.
Trying to figure out the “whys” is futile. The fact of the matter is that he misses wide open receivers or throws into coverage way too often, only to have a terrific outing the next series or next game. Bottom line, we can look forward to him having up and down games as surely as we will see the Dow behave similarly.

Given that,I wanna see what BQ has…I don’t think we have much to lose.