May 19, 2013

NFL Trade Rumors: Corey Williams to Carolina

LOL Corey WilliamsFrom high-profile free agent addition to second-string defensive end, it appears that Corey Williams’ days in Cleveland could soon be coming to an end.

From the Gaston Gazette, we find out that Williams had a few extra eyes on him; some that didn’t belong to Browns fans hoping that the man who once recorded 14  sacks in a two-year period could perhaps return to form.

Carolina Panthers general manager Marty Hurney was in Green Bay Saturday night scouting the preseason game between the Packers and Cleveland Browns, according to the Cleveland Plain Dealer. That makes sense since Hurney wasn’t at practice today.

Now here’s the interesting part — Tony Grossi, who covers the Browns, speculates that Hurney might be there scouting Browns defensive lineman Corey Williams, who could be on the trading block. Williams (6-4, 320) is a potential answer for the Panthers at defensive tackle.

We have heard it time and time again that Eric Mangini has zero allegiance to the players that are currently on the Browns roster.  Aside from the players that were drafted, acquired via free agency, or added via trade, the rest of the roster is full of guys that were added by Phil Savage.  One of last season’s big additions was Williams, who required a second-round pick to pry his services from Green Bay.  (The Packers would later use that pick on quarterback Brian Brohm out of Louisville)

The downside to adding a defensive lineman that averaged seven sacks over the prior two years was the way that the Browns took a guy that was successful as a defensive tackle and just assumed that he would be able to replicate his numbers as a defensive end.  One of the biggest digs at the prior regime was that they tended to plug square pegs into round holes, opposed to building the defense around the strengths of the players they had.

Last season saw a boost in Williams’ tackle numbers, but a large decline in his sacks (.5).  The big man was plagued with a shoulder injury for much of the year, which has led to a lot of expectation for the upcoming season.  Though listed as the starting end, Williams was featured with the second team defense on Saturday.  He recorded one tackle with one assist. 

The sad part is, I have no doubt that Williams would be successful in Carolina’s 4-3 defense.  Of course, having players like Julius Peppers and Jon Beason around you always makes things a bit easier.

There is no denying that we would all love to see Williams revert back to the ways of 2006 and 2007.  But if the addition of players like CJ Mosley means that Williams will not have as many snaps to prove his worth, a trade may be the best option.  Just don’t count on the Browns being able to get what they paid in return.

  • Harv 21

    If they offered a 4th rounder I’d do it. If it’s a 5th, he’s probably more valuable as an average back up.

  • LP

    they are going to give him away because of his contract. Don’t be surprised if its a 6th or 7th round pick.

  • Isis

    Be honest, how many of you lauded Savage when he gave away a second rounder AND tons of guaranteed dollars and future cap space for this lazy fat oaf? Green Bay knew exactly what they were doing.

  • Harv 21

    @ #3: OK, a bonehead Savage move, but why the hostility to the player? There is no indication that he’s lazy or fat, as opposed to being hurt and a bad fit to play our defense. And Green Bay wanted him back badly, unless you just discount statements made at the time by their GM and his teammates there.

  • oribiasi

    @#4. This is how Isis works, dude. He’s an angry fan.

  • http://www.waitingfornextyear.com Scott

    Personally, I was excited about the move. But regardless of his play, I do not agree that he is lazy nor fat. He’s out of position, plain and simple. And given what he’s done, he’s overpaid. But if we can get him back to where he should be, I don’t think six mill next year is that big of a deal. A big “if” I know…

  • Isis

    Scott…..we’ll agree to disagree. Not only do I think he’s lazy and fat and exhibited zero competitive zest on the field (regardless of whether or not he is miscast in a 34 defense)-a six million/year gamble was both a bonanza for Williams and a desperate move from Savage. I felt the same thing when the trade was announced.

    To be fair…….I felt they overpaid both in picks and dollars for Shaun Rogers, and he was definitely a beast least year-I’m happy to be wrong on that count.

  • oribiasi

    @ #7 — alert the media, Isis was wrong! =P

  • DK

    I tend to just laugh at Isis’ views as he’s just an angry old man…makes you wonder if he hates Cleveland so much, why he continues to read the paper to see what the PD writers have to say and then base his views off of those grumpy guys…I’m fairly convinced he doesnt actually watch anything, he just goes off what box scores say or what others say as he never has any idea on how to fix anything, just negative statements to say…

    that being said, I agree with everyone else here when they say that he is out of position…he will go back to his above average self once he transitions back to the 4-3…hes more of a one on one scraper (not scrapper) type of lineman that works best at moving laterally and spinning off one on ones rather than trying to cover an end and/or double teamed by a TE and a T…

    I do know that his play was affected by his injury and he is just now getting healthy again…I know how painful and debilitating that injury can be…I had it in high school as well and it took a good 2-3 yrs to be able to feel semi-normal again…

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