May 23, 2013

The 2009 Browns Season: 5/16ths Miserable

Browns Ravens FootballThe Cleveland Browns miraculously have a 1-4 record in mid-October but the upcoming difficult schedule projects even more somber results.

Call it “a win” if you want, at least the brutal affair against the the Buffalo Bills last week enabled Cleveland to not finish this year 0-16. The season so far has been simply depressing for the fans as the offensive ineptitude from 2008 has continued  along with even more defensive lapses. When the special teams unit is the only thing laudable, it is clear the Browns will be on the wrong side of another lopsided game Sunday against the dreaded Pittsburgh Steelers.

Looking at the next few games as well, three of the next four Cleveland opponents won nine games in 2008 and you can also include Cincinnati, San Diego and Pittsburgh (again) into the mix later in the season. Counting up the positive losses and the hopeful victories, and the results are not too pretty for the Browns the rest of the way this season. We all knew after the first three games that it would be another long year in BrownsTown, but how do you think it will all end here in ’09? What does the schedule really say about the team’s chances?

Week 6 @ Pittsburgh – We covered the likelihood of a Browns win yesterday. But seriously, I have no idea when the Browns will win here anytime soon. No way the Browns win in this state in ’09. Prediction: “Not Gonna Happen”

Week 7 vs. Green Bay – Aaron Rodgers is playing very well and although the Pack was only 6-10 last year, they seem to be great against bad defenses with no QB rush. Browns can’t contend in a shootout. Prediction: “Probably Not”

Week 8 @ Chicago – In Soldier Field? The Bears picked up another cog to their defensive front, and with Jay Cutler winning over the city, they look like a playoff team. Stars would have to align for another upset. Prediction: “Not Gonna Happen”

Week 9 BYE WEEK – Cleveland Browns will probably be sitting at 1-7 or a fortunate 2-6

Week 10 vs. Baltimore – We saw what happened last time these two teams met. Add in a week 10 atmosphere, and the tough schedule coming up for the Ravens, and this could be ugly yet again. Prediction: “Not Gonna Happen”

Week 11 @ Detroit - After probably falling all the way to 1-8, the Browns finally get a reprieve on the schedule. If Calvin Johnson is healthy, Detroit can score but otherwise their offense is almost as bad. Prediction: “It Could Happen”

Week 12 @ Cincinnati - Bengals have already scored as many points in the second half and overtime in ’09 as they did in ’08. They could be the favorites in the AFC North and on the road, this could be very bad. Prediction: “Probably Not”

Week 13 vs. San Diego – A playoff team last year, the Chargers continue to be the perfect form of mediocrity in the regular season. The fire power of Phillip Rivers and LT will still be too much for the Brownies. Prediction: “Probably Not”

Week 14 vs. Pittsburgh – Round two against the dreaded Steelers. Everyone should be healthy for them and they could be in dire need of a win for their playoff chances. That means all bad for Cleveland. Prediction: “Not Gonna Happen”

Week 15 @ Kansas City – Only one more easy game means the Browns will probably 2-11 at this point. The Chiefs on the road looks tougher because they almost beat the ‘Boys last week, but it is really a toss-up. Prediction: “It Could Happen”

Week 16 vs. Oakland – A nice little end to the schedule continues with JaMarcus Russell and company. They actually have a win, but you couldn’t tell from Darren McFadden’s impact. Another ugly game… Prediction: “It Could Happen”

Week 17 vs. Jacksonville - The Jags are imploding offensively, have two wins on the season, and they were a playoff team back in ’07. Assuming thing continue to go downhill, this is another winnable contest. Prediction: “It Could Happen”

Review: There is a very strong possibility that the Cleveland Browns will travel to Arrowhead Stadium in Kansas City for week 15 with an abysmal 2-11 record. A nice end to the schedule would then really only matter for some good feelings and a lowering of our draft position. Last week’s win against the Bills was nice for at least the record books, but the losses will continue to pile up and more sad faces from Brady Quinn (as seen above) are probably on the horizon. There are a total of four “It Could Happen” games, three “Probably Not” contests and four “Not Gonna Happen” affairs. Going by that math above, it certainly seems that the Browns will finish the season with no more than six wins but more likely it will be around three to five victories.

Anyone out there think they could win more than five games? Would it even matter besides draft positioning? Share your thoughts on the 2009 season in the comments.

(The photo above is courtesy of Associated Press/Gail Burton and was found here.)

  • MrCleaveland

    Jacob, that sounds about right. But by God we’re gonna stick with Derek Anderson because he give us the best chance of picking up those two or three wins.

    Mangini’s a moron.

  • Pittsburgh is for Man Lovers

    Hey, 5-11 is an improvement, right?

  • bobby

    Why would you guys really want the #1 pick in the draft? I know I would hate to be stuck there. Missing on the top, ‘can’t miss prospect’ can put a team back for so long, and I don’t want that here… again. I’d rather the browns get out of the top 5 picks, have some chance to possibly move down in the draft and not have to pay 50+ mil guaranteed. Thats my opinion though.

  • http://www.waitingfornextyear.com Jacob Rosen

    @ Bobby – It is an intriguing debate as to whether you would rather have your team go 1-15 and get the top pick or go 4-12 and be in the top five or so. The main problem I have with yet another slightly horrendous but altogether not historically bad season is that we would be stuck in a bad drafting slot again. Take this year for example. Sure we loaded up on more middle-round players along with some more roster cogs from the Jets, but I would much rather see the Browns finally take a gamble on a high-reward player at the very top of the draft. Give me a Taylor Mays, give me a Sam Bradford, give me a Eric Berry. Heck, just give me something worth cheering.

  • Isis

    @#1MrCleaveland-nothing I can add to you wisdom except in addition, Mangini’s one and out.

    bobby-don’t give up on your 9 plausible win mantra.

  • Isis

    Actually-it would be far more “plausible” for bobby to tell us why the gap from his 9 win prediction to what we have in place. (minus excuses please, injuries, or schedule).

  • Jewpants

    the browns suck

  • bobby

    Isis you are a freaking moron. Plausible does not mean the browns will definitely go out and win those games.

    Plausible- superficially fair, reasonable.

    I said, during preseason, that the browns had 9 plausible wins. After the Denver fiasco, I said the number was probably down to 6-7. You are such a freaking stubborn moron its not even funny. LETS START COPY AND PASTING EVERYTHING I WRITE!

    @ Jacob- I would agree with you, but we could still be drafting at 5, or 6 or w/e and still take a chance on someone. I dont think we have the team to draft a top QB like Bradford to support him, but I would love to see Mays or Berry in a Browns uni. I don’t know if there are any sweet LBs coming out, but i would look there too if there is any. I just would rather not be drafting 1 or 2, and have to pay someone millions when they havent done a thing. being down at 5 even helps us out a lot, compared to being 1.

  • DKH

    Isis, if I recall, 9 plausible wins was the comment before the season. The only one pushing it now is you. Obviously any analysis now would have to include the way the season has progressed. That’s how statistics work, though you seem to possess no understanding of the concept.

    Here’s an interesting thing, since you seem to know so much: post your predicted win-losses (with links!) for the past Indians season, the current Browns season, and the upcoming Cavs. Do you have those? Because that’s a lot different than constantly berating people in hindsight.

    Which just brings the question of why the site creators let an obvious, abusive troll stick around. A significant portion of the discussions revolve around Isis rather than the topic. Didn’t used to be that way, but now it’s more about Isis-baiting, or dealing with retarded Isis arguments. Either way, the discussion doesn’t advance like it used to.

  • Jack

    they win this week and win the last three, giving us all false hope.

    5-11

  • MrCleaveland

    I can’t figure out why some of you hate Isis so much. He’s as knowledgeable as anyone else here, and his opinions are just as valid.

    And if “a significant portion of the discussions revolve around Isis rather than the topic,” well that’s on you, not him.

    If you don’t like him, ignore him. I’m glad he’s here.

  • Desert Wahoo

    Just to throw this out there. Bradford’s should is hurt again. I do not want this twice hurt QB anywhere near our team next year. This is a very bad year for picking up a QB in the draft. No real talent.

  • jewpants

    i’m with ya MrCleve, isis brings grounded, developed arguments to the mix. if people are so cranky w/ him just don’t read his comments

  • TBrown

    Until the NFL institutes a reasonable rookie wage scale, I don’t even want to sniff the top-5. If we can pull together a couple of wins and drop down even a little bit, I’ll be happy. Top-5 picks are hard to trade (generally; last year was a happy exception) and they cost far, far too much. A team like the Browns has no business tying up $20 million plus of guaranteed money in any one rookie. Say what you want about Mangini’s drafting (and I still think the jury is out; too soon to make any real judgments), he saved the team something to the tune of $40m by trading down. On a team with as many holes as the Browns, that money is better spent elsewhere. And seeing as how we’ve still got more than our fair share of holes, I hope this year we stay out of the top-5 again and spread the picks, and money, around a little bit more.

  • Derek

    Re: draft pick salary

    I think the Crabtree situation this year has indicated that teams can use a lot more leverage than they have used in the past. He was going into the draft as one of the top 2 or 3 consensus overall prospects.

    Teams should select a guy with the 1st-5th pick and offer him a reasonable, maybe a little above free agent level worthy contract. This would be very very much below what they have gotten in the past. Then, the player has a choice. They can take the money, or they can leave it, sit in the draft another year, and pray that they get taken in the top 5 again, which is really a need-based thing and very unpredictable, regardless of talent level. The worst thing that can possibly happen is that you don’t end up signing a rookie for 10 mil a year so you can spend that elsewhere, but more likely disaster scenario is that you can end up trading the rights to the highest bidder anyway, which may not be great, but I can’t believe no teams have even considered doing that. I think if the draft slot payment system that has evolved to what it is now, it’s going to get to the point soon (I really thought it would happen this year with DET but they are too dumb) where teams are just going to pass and move down and take the #5-7 pick and teams will be playing chicken to take the #1 pick. Nobody in football is truly can’t-miss.

  • Sara

    Do you ever say anything positive about your teams? GD it must suck being constantly negative

  • TampaBrett

    @16..Wait for a Cavs piece..

  • Alex

    RE Bradford: do not want. So far this season he’s played ok against bad defenses and gotten hurt/taken out when he doesn’t get a ton of protection from the O line. Sounds like a recipe for success with this team.

  • Jeremy

    Isis how many times do we have to tell you? Mangini is NOT one and done!!! Randall is not going to pay two coaches that are sitting at home doing nothing, plus another coach that is actually doing the job. Wake up, we are stuck with him for the next few years. So either get behind him, or stop saying it. “BOOK IT”. MR Cleve. you would like Isis because you both spread the same negative attitude towards the Browns. I said it once, I’ll say it again. What were we all thinking would happen this year? They are not a good football team right now.

  • ben

    How can we not be playing Brady??? Look how effing jacked he is

  • robert

    I have given up on the Browns and I say that having been a fan for 50 some years. I have been through thick and thin with this team and never before even thought of throwing in the towel. The trouble lies at the top. When teams struggle for this long without ever gaining ground you have to look at the front office. In this case the organization is completely dysfunctional and it will remain so as long as Randy Lerner is the owner. I have grown completely tired of waiting for a next year that nevers comes.