June 19, 2013

The Browns Will Win If…

This Sunday is the first day of the rest of our lives. OK, that might be a little melodramatic, but if you’re Brady Quinn you probably can’t help but feel like that. His career in Cleveland is all but finished, as he couldn’t even last three full games. It’s DA’s show again, folks!
The Bengals are like the Bizarro Bengals thus far this season. A fluke play against Denver away from being 3-0, including a big win over the Steelers last week. Carson Palmer is back and getting into the groove again, but the big difference is that the Bengals have a new-found strength on defense so far. Antwan Odom leads the league in sacks? Top-13 in rush defense and scoring defense? Who are these guys?? Without further ado…

The Browns Will Win If…

Craig: …they figure out how to run routes and catch balls for Derek Anderson. If the Browns somehow find a way to get a couple of big plays on offense they might have a chance against the Bengals. The Bengals beat the Steelers, but the Browns will have their best chance at a win against this team. They might even be able to get some pressure on Carson Palmer. Palmer has 4 interceptions to go with his 4 TDs so maybe the Browns will finally force a turnover on defense. Then again, they might just implode in a mess of Derek Anderson interceptions into triple coverage while staring down receivers. That is when Anderson isn’t tripping over his oversize feet and sacking himself.

Scott: …the D.A. time machine is in full-effect. To this point, D.A. has been a poor-man’s Brett Favre. Equal part hillbilly, equal part throwing into triple coverage, zero part win column. Roads? Where we’re going we don’t need roads. We just need touchdowns. If he can somehow muster the magic of [the first half] of 2007, connect with a few receivers, pretend that Mike Furrey is Joe Jurevicius – even if we have to switch numbers with Robert Royal – this could actually be a surprise game just like it was two seasons ago. On the defensive end, pressure Carson Palmer and for the love of God stop the big plays before they start. To the Delorean!

DP: …Cincinnati’s bus breaks down on the way to the stadium. In all seriousness, if Serviceable DA shows up and doesn’t make too many mistakes with the ball, the Bengals’ secondary is mediocre enough for him to have a good day. If he can move the team with the pass early, it might set up the run. So, if you’re scoring at home, the Browns will win if DA doesn’t stink up the joint and the offensive coaching staff calls a game that looks like they have an actual plan. Summary: points. I guess if you were looking for a quick way to boil it down, the Browns need to discover that 10-yard section of grass commonly called the “end zone,” would be the take away from what I’m saying. If the defense can get some rest on the sidelines, they might have a shot to slow down Cincinnati enough, but it won’t matter if they hold the Bengals to 20 if the Browns score 6 again this week.

RockKing: …Derek Anderson can limit, or really, eliminate, all his interceptions and fumbles. We all know who DA is and what kind of QB he is and is not. He’s not a QB who can help a team consistently win games. He got hot in 2007, but for the most part, you’re not going to consistently win with him. However, having said that, he is a QB who can go out and win you any given individual game. The obvious point of reference here is the Giants game last year, but that goes to my point last week that in the NFL, any team is capable of beating any other team on any given Sunday. The Browns can beat The Bengals. They probably won’t beat them, but they can if DA can take control of this game and loosen up the defense enough to allow the Browns to get a running game going a bit and if they can connect on a few long plays.

Rick: …they can establish some semblance of a running game. Harrison and James Davis will need to make plays on the ground if Anderson and the passing game have any chance. The turnstiles on the right side of the offensive line will have to play significantly better this week against a much improved Bengals defensive front. If the Bengals get pressure without sending more than 4 we are in trouble. (And since Joe Thomas can only block one player at a time, I’d say trouble is brewing.) Defensively, I’d love to see Ryan just open up and blitz like mad. Why not? Either we make a big play or give up a big play, either way we probably are staring 0-4 in the face.

TD: …if it becomes 2007 all over again and there is a replay of the infamous Derek Anderson coming out party against the Bengals, where he threw for 328 yards and 5 TD’s. In all seriousness, nobody is giving the Browns any chance. The Bengals just beat Green Bay and Pittsburgh back to back. How hard can it be to beat the Clowns? If the Browns have any shot, they somehow have to create turnovers and jump out to an early lead. Momentum is a beautiful thing. We all know how this team does when they have to come from behind; not well. DA has to hit some big plays deep and re-capture his chemistry with Braylon Edwards. Honestly, they are going to have to completely forget everything that has happened over the last two and a half games and come out playing with pride and with a chip on their shoulder.

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Now, for the other side of the coin. We reached out to the team over at The Who Dey Revolution, who in the midst of their “Project Mayhem” initiative, took some time out to help us out for this post. And, true to form, they did not disappoint. The members of the Who Dey Revolution are forever calling for Cincinnati Bengals fans to take a stand and demand comprehensive reform to the managerial decisions and approach of the Cincinnati Bengals’ ownership, management, staff and players. Specifically, the Who Dey Revolution demands Bengals’ owner Mike Brown relinquish his control of all managerial decisions and control of player personnel and hire a competent, experienced and knowledgeable General Manager that will bring about momentous change to the way in which the Bengals franchise is operated. Without further ado…

The Bengals Will Win If…

Eddie Falznutz – Franchise kicker Shayne Graham continues his successful extra point streak, running back DeDe Dorsey continues to put up 150 + yard games and sticks with his ‘boy’, Chris Henry continues to follow in his father’s footsteps to greatness, the  Chad stays away from Lil Weez, and our beautiful  cheerleaders continue to bring us home in the Who Dey nation — THAT is how the Bengals will champion this Sunday’s game….!

Competitiveness – The Bengals don’t allow Derek Anderson to complete any long passes by playing two deep in zone or man-under, and don’t break containment on runs to the tackles like they did against the Steelers to gain a pass rushing advantage. On offense, they just don’t beat themselves with an excessive amount of penalties and turnovers. Benson should be able to have many long runs if he can get into Cleveland’s second-level D, which is [crap].

Sly Vramavomovich – The Browns can win if they kidnap the entire Bengals defense and
replace them with wacky waving inflatable flailing tube men. They would also have to kidnap Mike Zimmer because he still could probably get two turnovers out of his inanimate replacements against the Browns.

Chairman Meow – The Bengals will win if Donte Stallworth accidentally runs over Bob Bratkowski before the game, forcing somebody with a brain to do the playcalling.

MikeBrownDelendaEst – As you would expect in such an intense intrastate rivalry, this one will likely be determined by the team that does the little things better.  For instance long snapping.  Brown’s long snapper Ryan Pontbriand is one of the earliest players ever drafted to play that position (#142 – 2003 draft), and has gone to the Pro Bowl each of the past two years.  He is also the highest paid long snapper in the league, setting the Brown’s back $4,975,000 against their 2009 cap (mostly due to bonuses for making the Pro Bowl).  The Bengals long snapper Brad St. Louis cost the Bengals a spot in the playoffs in 2006, and has already hosed up an extra point and a field goal attempt in
2009, but continues to have a job because he’ll make a measly $758,571 in 2009.  So, I could go into the conditions under which the Bengals will win, but when Mike Brown looks at facts like that he thinks  he’s already won.

Fielding Mellish – The Bengals will win when Eric Mangini comes up with the brilliant idea of improving his offense by hiring long time Offensive Coordinator Bob Bratkowski from the Cincinnati Bengals.  Bengals owner Mike Brown with little time to hire a replacement, and a penchant for not “over spending” on players or coaches, promotes a baked potato from lunch to be the interim Coordinator.  The Bengals win the game 24-7.  Mike Brown, so impressed with the play calling of the baked potato, hires a bag of Lays Potato Chips, a helping of tater tots, and a basket of french fries into the new Bengals Scouting department. Who Dey!

Sleeping With Bieniemy – Head coach Eric Mangini, a reputed genius who demonstrates a ruthless pursuit for perfection, continues his streak of focusing his efforts entirely on the behavior and conduct of his players off-the-field, while completely ignoring the ongoing cluster[frick] on the field.  But hey, at least the Brown players will treat hotel property and employees with respect! The Bengals will also win if they continue to – much to the surprise of their fans – “have a defense”.

Showtime – The Bengals will win if they play league average defense.  There’s almost no way the Browns should score more than 17 on anyone at this point.  Only a failure of a defense allows them to get there.  If the Bengals play like they should, the Browns should score anywhere between 10-14 on a good day.  If this happens, the Bengals win.

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Let’s hear it, folks!

  • Tron

    So, when you guys had the line “The Browns will win if….” how many of you were tempted to just type “HAHAHAHAHAHAHA” after it? Just curious.

  • http://www.waitingfornextyear.com DP Diesel

    Having spent four years in college as an English major BSing my way through a good 30-40 papers a year, I find I can usually stretch paragraphs to fill space. As for the other guys, I couldn’t say.
    :-)

  • oribiasi

    It should read “The Bengals will win if…they show up.”

  • http://www.waitingfornextyear.com Craig

    Hey “Who Dey” at least we have a scouting staff even if they are BAD!

  • Boomhauer

    “To this point, D.A. has been a poor-man’s Brett Favre. Equal part hillbilly, equal part throwing into triple coverage, zero part win column.” = LOL, except that you forgot – equal part drama queen.

    “the Browns need to discover that 10-yard section of grass commonly called the “end zone,”” – I thought only the other team was allowed to visit the end zone, repeatedly.

  • Isis

    If I had wings I could fly.

    How many literally and figuratively bashed Rey Maualuga up, down, sideways after the Browns picked Robo? Why are none of you looking at Brian Daboll in your assessments? Mo Carthon would be an upgrade, he’s now “experienced”.

    What game planning will be put in place by Mangini/Daboll/Ryan?

  • AMC

    I just like that one of Who Dey’s people has glossed himself “Chairman Meow.” That cracked me up…

  • http://www.waitingfornextyear.com Craig

    What if they were really small wings, Isis? Would you be able to fly then?

    Didn’t think so!

    /Isis’d

  • http://www.waitingfornextyear.com DP Diesel

    Yep, Isis, we’re all on Robiski’s jock:
    http://www.waitingfornextyear.com/?p=10850

    Pick We’d like Back if Possible: Round 2, Pick 4

    Rock: “I think picking Robo over Maualuga will haunt the Browns for years to come, especially since they will have to face him twice every season. They had a chance to take a first round caliber LB in the 2nd round. I’ll probably never understand why, because we’ll probably never know what it was about Rey that turned off not only the Browns, but every other team, so much.”

    Denny: “Robo for [an] impact LB (see Rey Rey). Robo or Massaquoi would have still been available with the next pick.”

    TD: “I sound like a broken record -Brian Robiske over Rey Maulaluga. I don’t care what his Wunderlich score was or if he may be shady off the field (according to reports), they kid is a player. Everytime I saw him, he looked like a dominator to me. Now he gets to play with the added chip on his shoulder of being passed over in the first round, and he will do so in the AFC North (Cincinnati).”

    Rick: “Coming in I didn’t really like the overall depth of this draft, so adding late round picks doesn’t excite me. I have to look at the Robiskie pick here. I don’t know that there was a WR I liked better, but there were certainly LBs that would have made the Browns better. Perhaps 2 of those 2nd round picks could have been packaged to get back into the end of the first round and get a RB? Even McCoy would have been nice with the Veikune pick.”

    DP: “Sorry, OSU fans, but you won’t convince me Robiskie was the right pick at that spot. I think he’ll help this year in a Steve Smith (NY Giants’ version) kind of way, but no way was he the 36th best player in the draft. Especially when they took another WR at 50.”

    Scott: “As much as I think Brian Robiske will be a great receiver for this team, I would have rather had Alphonso Smith or Darius Butler at the corner or Everette Brown on the outside. Sure, Malaluga was there, but I’m firmly in the camp that thinks this guy is a two-down player and would be better suited in a 4-3. Cincy can have him.”

    Craig: “This has been cause for much debate, but I would still like the first 2nd round pick back. I think in hindsight there were a lot of people on the board that could help the Browns more than Brian Robiskie.”

  • Jon S.

    Who literally bashed Maulaluga? That sounds dangerous…

  • Isis

    DP-that comment was meant more for those who left such comments, check them out and you’ll see. If I extend the assessment outside of Robiskie to the entire Browns draft, are you going to kick back the same types of comments? I heard little in the way of complaints in regards to picks, free-agents, trades…………..only talk of how the roster was “upgraded with depth”.

    Craig-false premise on your wings fantasy.

  • http://www.waitingfornextyear.com Craig

    The wings thing wasn’t my fantasy it was yours.

    See how fun this is?

  • http://www.waitingfornextyear.com Scott

    “DP-that comment was meant more for those who left such comments, check them out and you’ll see.”

    Again… focusing on the commenters rather than the post therein.

  • http://www.waitingfornextyear.com DP Diesel

    Translation: “Damn, you caught me being full of crap again. How can I spin this back onto something else?”

  • http://www.waitingfornextyear.com Denny

    I LOVE LISTENING TO WINGS!!! LIVE AND LET DIE BIAAAA!!

  • http://exileoncourtstreet.blogspot.com Les Fleurs Du Mal

    “Joe Jurevicious isn’t walking through that door (we cut him), Kellen Winslow Jr. isn’t walking through that door (traded him for a bag of balls), Braylon Edwards isn’t walking through that door (he is, but not really) . .. “

  • bobby

    I think the Bengals could easily be overlooking the browns after two big wins. If DA gets a big play/solid drive to start the game ending with a TD (or Cribbs returns the opening kickoffs) AND Ryan sends the house on D right after that to either create a turnover or a quick 3 and out, the browns would be in a good spot. If they start slow tho, it could be a long game. Daboll must get his act together and not call QB sneaks on 1st down or FB screens (ever). Harrison should be able to pull out a good game running and receiving, and could very well get the first rushing TD for the browns since his last one in BUF.

    Big Prediction- Browns score more then 20 points (but they could still lose doing this)

  • bobby

    Also, I like how everyone said if DA plays good he can win the game. Would the same be said for Quinn?

  • TampaBrett

    I didn’t laugh at the headline…I think we have a shot…and I like DA at the helm…

  • TampaBrett

    This Isis dude is wearing everyone out….lol

  • http://www.waitingfornextyear.com RockKing

    “Equal part hillbilly, equal part throwing into triple coverage, zero part win column.”

    Well done, Scott. Seriously. Well done.

  • oribiasi

    @ #20 — Nah, it’s just the fatigue of being a Cleveland fan. It brings on lethargy something fierce.

  • Brad in ATL

    I put 50 on the Browns laying the points. I might need to go see a shrink.

  • Brad in ATL

    Getting the points I meant, sorry. They couldn’t get “laid” in a morgue.

  • http://www.jaycutler.com Jay Cutler

    The Browns could win if I were their quarterback… and of course, they had a barrel of insulin pens on the sideline for me.

  • B-bo

    Wilford Brimley is not amused by the “die-ah-bettis” jokes

  • Shawn Kemp

    the browns will win if….they bring tim couch back for qb

  • B-bo

    I would have said “the Browns will win if BQ plays well”, bobby, if how the QB performed would make a difference here. It’s the right side of the O-line that needs to improve to even have a chance offensively, regardless of the QB. Oh, and if the defense would have to play for 4 quarters. And WRs would have to get open. And RBs would have to not tap-dance in the backfield. Point is, the problem isn’t solely the QB position, and changing the starter makes little difference. Leaving Quinn in to see what we have should have been the objective for this season. Instead we will get to enjoy jump balls into triple coverage and statue-esque mobility behind our porous o-line.

    Is this game winnable? Yes. But it’s not just on the Browns QB, regardless who it is, to make it happen.

  • Boomhauer

    @16 – Were the balls that we got in exchange for Winslow swollen?

  • http://exileoncourtstreet.blogspot.com Les Fleurs Du Mal

    @29- and how.

  • BillCowherforHC

    @18, I agree.

    The sentiment from all the bloggers that the DA matters for whether the Browns win or not is very interesting because the sentiment outside of Browns fans seems to be that not even Joe Montana would have succeeded in this offense the last 3 weeks.

  • http://www.waitingfornextyear.com DP Diesel

    Don’t be confused by the title of post meaning that we all think that the Browns will win simply if DA plays well. I am approaching it from the standpoint of “DA has to play well for the Browns to have a chance to win,” as opposed to “If DA plays well the Browns will win.”

    And thus, by that logic, yes, the same would have to be said for Quinn were he the starter.

  • http://www.waitingfornextyear.com Craig

    The difference between Quinn and DA is that we have seen DA not suck before. Thanks to Romeo and now Mangini we will probably have to wait until Quinn gets traded before we ever find out if he can not suck for an entire game.

    Then again, while there is video evidence of DA not sucking, I don’t know what percentage chance the non-sucking DA has of showing up on Sunday. 30% maybe?

  • http://www.waitingfornextyear.com RockKing

    Correct, DP. If DA plays well, it doesn’t ensure they will win. But if he plays poorly, the Browns will definitely lose. So in order for the Browns to win, DA has to play well.

  • bobby

    Ya, I would agree that if DA plays well the browns can win. But if DA plays really well, he can win the game for the browns. I dont know if people can really say that about quinn (though we probably dont and will never know for sure if this is true or not).

    B-bo- Ill agree with you about the WRs, but thats it. Quinn had the ball for over 5 seconds many times, and thats enough time for the OL to give the QB. not perfect, no, but good enough. If its the WRs thats one things that we cant know from watching on CBS really. Playcalling may be another factor.

  • marco

    Lots of focus on the offense, but I’d say the Browns only win if they can contain Benson for 4 quarters. The browns are giving up 5.4 ypc. Unless they put the clamps on that, it’s going to be another day of worn down defense….

  • Goalie007

    The Browns will win if … they run the ball, don’t turn the ball over, stop the run, actually stop somebody on 3rd down, and don’t give up the big play. A tall order indeed …

  • Regis

    And for the 1st pick of the 2010 NFL Draft, the Cleveland Browns select defensive tackle/defensive end, Ndamukong Suh, Nebraska……

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