May 23, 2013

The Browns Will Win If…

ALL EYES ACROSS THE LEAGUE WILL BE GLUED TO THIS GAME. The two most hapless franchises in the league, battling it out to see who might be the worst football team of the decade—and possibly of all time—in front of maybe 400 fans. Browns! Lions! The NFL on CBS! (That sound you hear is league and CBS executives banging their heads on their office walls…)

Browns and Lions

Total offense: Detroit, 26th (15.9 ppg); Cleveland, 32nd (8.7 ppg). Total defense: Cleveland, 28th (25.0 papg); Detroit, 32nd (29.3 papg). That’s right. The league’s worst offense against the league’s worst defense. The real “battle” will be the high-20’s matchups between Detroit’s offense and Cleveland’s defense. This game is gonna be AWESOME. Without further ado…

The Browns Will Win If…

Craig: …the same defense shows up from last week against the Ravens and they consistently get into field goal range.  Joshua Cribbs has to play and his returns have to be big big big so they can get Captain Clutch Phil Dawson some opportunities.  I am thinking that the Browns should probably be able to win this game 15 or 18 to nothing in a toilet-bowl style rout if they can just get into field goal range.  Phil Dawson in a dome?  YES PLEASE!  And if they find a way to convert a touchdown on defense or special teams, WATCH OUT!  And if the Browns don’t win it is like the song on Rizzo’s show says… It is the battle for draft position.  You just might have to lose to win!  The GLC!

Scott: …they can somehow play the Lions like they did in the preseason, with half of the same players. Braylon’s gone, Barton’s hurt, our and I don’t even know our punter’s name. But that preseason game was really the only time (save for spurts against Cincinnati) where the Browns looked like a real football team. Their pass defense is actually worse than ours, so if the staff actually calls plays that move the ball down the field instead of in the flats, the Browns could surprise someone. And by surprise, I mean at least get into field goal range this time – something that they haven’t been able to do since there were almost 11 minutes left in the third quarter two weeks ago…

DP: …they can actually give Quinn some time to throw some semi-long passes. The Lions’ pass defense is by far the worst in the league (271.7 yards/game through the air), and the Browns simply HAVE to capitalize on this. Ideally, I’d love to see Cleveland run the ball 45 times for 175+ yards to keep their opportunistic defense on the sidelines resting, and keep the game out of Brady Quinn’s hands. But, given the numbers on pass defense for Detroit, you HAVE to try to exploit this weakness. Detroit’s offense is not very good (even though it is better than ours), so if the defense can simply continue to do what they did against Baltimore on Monday I think they should be OK. One would assume both of these teams actually believe they can win this game, so the potential for “effort” has my curiosity piqued… in a passing-a-12-car-pileup-on-the-freeway kind of way.

RockKing: …the Lions are who we thought they were, but we don’t let them off the hook. Look, normally when a team from Ohio plays a team from Michigan on the weekend before Thanksgiving, it’s a great, prideful battle that not only can inspire, but can equally devastate. But that is not this game. The Browns are playing a 1-8 Lions team, and I’m convinced the Browns have no shot of winning this game. The Lions have a QB who will try to throw the ball further than 3 yards, and that’s all you need to know about this matchup. The Lions are bad, but the Browns are bad on an epic level. In my experience, epic fail always loses to fail.

Rick: …Cleveland really is ‘cursed’. Think of it—the Browns manage to win this week, and maybe even another game down the road this season. They finish 3-13, and Randy Lerner decides he’s seen enough “progress” to bring back Mangini. No respectable “football guru” will touch the GM job because they don’t want Mangini here, and once again Eric gets to hand-pick his GM, which of course means Mangini = head coach/GM. But there’s more. Brian Daboll returns as Offense Coordinator, until the last preseason game, at which point Mangini fires him and takes over play-calling duties. At this point Mangini = HC/GM/OC. After getting handing their jocks against Pittsburgh, Rob Ryan quits after his latest sideline feud with Mangini. Mangini takes over that role as well, meaning Mangini = HC/GM/OC/DC. This is all according to plan of course, and “progress” is still being made. Mangini claims after every press conference that he “likes what’s going on” and that “we’re doing some things right.”

On the plus side, all the home games are blacked out, so we’ve got that going for us.

Denny: …I’m actually at a loss.  I have no clue how the Browns are going to win this one, and the Lions are horrendous.  Maybe the Browns actually play well at practice, and the half-empty arena will remind them of practice.  I don’t know.

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Now, for the other side of the coin. For once this year, the Browns are up against a team that, over the lions-share (see what I did there?) of the decade, has been equally as soul-sucking to its true fans as ours has. We reached out to a few bloggers for the Lions to see how this game might shake out from their perspective. The one that replied shed some light on this dire situation.

The Lions Will Win If…

Big Al Beaton is the purveyor of The Wayne Fontes Experience, where he notes that “In Detroit, you’re either with us, or we hate you.” Do tell, Big Al.

…several things happen. Hell freezing over is one of them. Barry Sanders un-retiring after finding the fountain of youth, then rejoining the Lions by Sunday, is another. Bobby Layne rising from the dead is one as well. The Browns getting lost on the way to Ford Field would help considerably…

Think I’m exaggerating? The numbers don’t lie.

The Lions have lost 32 of their last 34 games. They’ve won once in their last 24. This is the third consecutive season the Lions’ defense has been ranked 32nd in the NFL.  Detroit has gone through 3 offensive coordinators in 3 seasons, and 3 defensive coordinators in 4. Including interim, there have been 7 head coaches… in this decade alone.

Earlier this week, the 11th Lion went on injured reserve. They have 13 starters who weren’t even on the roster in 2008. You can expect 5 rookies to start, and Detroit’s best special teams coverage man is a rookie as well. The leading rusher, Kevin Smith, averages a miniscule 3.4 YPC…and it’s gone up over the past 2 weeks.

So call me cynical if I don’t believe the Lions can beat the dysfunctional Browns. Thing is, I’m not a cynic. I’m a Lions fan. This is how we cope with being stuck in a never-ending circle of NFL Hell.

On the field, a couple of things need to fall in place for Detroit. Matthew Stafford, who has shown enough this season to give us some reason for hope, needs to connect with another reason (one of the few) for hope, Calvin Johnson, early and often. Johnson is the only receiver who can consistently catch the ball. The rest of the Lions’ receiving corps, especially rookie TE Brandon Pettigrew, need hold on to Stafford’s passes, something which doesn’t happen near enough…if at all. 

The offensive line, which was overwhelmed by the Vikings’ Williams Wall last week, needs to keep Stafford on his feet…which didn’t happen often in Minnesota. Most teams have not needed to blitz in order to put pressure on Stafford.

The running game needs to keep the Browns’ defense honest, which is hard to do when the Lions average 3.9 YPC as a team.

Defensively, the Lions need…they have…they could…they might…who am I kidding? The Lions have shown an utter inability to stop any team for an entire game. Yes, I even expect the Lions to have trouble stopping the immortal Brady Quinn.

Detroit’s defensive backfield is the WORST I’ve ever seen. Head coach Jim Schwartz, when asked about the pass defense when rookie safety Louis Delmas (who has played well, if out of control) couldn’t play last Sunday replied, “We’d give up 50 points a game without Delmas.”

If that isn’t an indictment of your defense…

When it comes down to it, the Lions can win if…the Browns somehow, someway, play their worst game of the season. Maybe of the decade. From what I’ve seen of the Browns, it might actually be possible. But I’m not counting on it. The Lions couldn’t beat the downtrodden St. Louis Rams, so it’s not a stretch to think beating the Browns as asking for more than this team can give.

You Cleveland fans should have reason to be encouraged, as a win in Detroit is not out of the question. In fact, it may be a gimme.

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What say, there, fuzzy britches?

  • MrCleaveland

    Okay, I’ll say it and get it out of the way: resistible force meets movable object.

    I’ve heard that some credible football people (i.e., not Mike Lombardi) are saying that if the Browns lose this game, Mangini will be fired no later than Monday morning. Man, I hate to root against the Browns, but . . .

  • Andrew S

    I thought Detroit fans were slightly more optimistic than Browns fans…I guess not.

  • Tron

    The thing about this game is I’ve lost all faith for the Cleveland offense to even get to field goal range. If a kickoff return/punt return touchdown doesn’t happen, I can see this being another bills/browns puntfest 6-3 game. Tragic.

  • http://www.waitingfornextyear.com DP Diesel

    The stat of losing 32 of 34 really got to me. As bad as it has been for us, imagine following a team for two+ seasons and only seeing TWO WINS.

  • Isis

    MrCleaveland, and to think this will happen before coach smarmy even fires his fat mindless oaf of a rookie OC. Sounds like one year and out-how could that beeeeeeeeee?????

  • nullster

    ALL EYES ACROSS THE LEAGUE WILL BE GLUED TO THIS GAME.

    … except for Lions fans who will be blacked out from seeing the game … and Toledo who has chosen to air Seattle/Minnesota instead

  • http://www.NoLogoNeeded.com Don_NoLogoNeeded.com

    I’m anxious to see the game. Am I a masochist? Probably. Do I have an unhealthy obsession with Browns football? Definitely.

    I can’t fathom missing this game. High comedy will be on display.

    I subscribe to the idea that in the future when the Browns are one of the better teams in the NFL (hey, it could happen) I will look back on these days and smile fondly.

    That may all be B.S. I just see it as an excuse to consume Christmas Ale.

  • ben

    if they observe that real fans don’t miss kick offs? book it?

  • bobby

    @2… i was thinking the same thing. Honestly, I watched the Det offense last week and its not that miserable. We need to keep them off the field somehow, but I dont see how. We should get “ask Madden” for Daboll to help select plays, because at least it will be random and maybe Det won’t expect it. I want to see a heavy heavy dose of Jennings/ Harrison this week. No stutter step Lewis. Lets get our ‘scatbacks’ out in open field and throw in a few right up the gut. this is our hope.

    I hate getting stuck with the #1 pick because it costs so much, but if it means Mangini is gone….

  • https://twitter.com/dj_2 DJ

    #8: An OSU the day before + CLE/DET setting football back 50 years + Christmas Ale = one of the most entertaining weekends of all time.

  • https://twitter.com/dj_2 DJ

    *An OSU WIN the day before*

    /fixed

  • Josh Stein

    Detroit blackout = Toledo blackout. They didn’t have the option of airing the UFL consolation game at Ford Field.

  • Jon

    When’s the last time an NFL game ended in a 0-0 tie? Has that even happened?

    Let’s make some history.

  • christiang

    With the first overall pick in the 2010 draft the Cleveland Browns select Lebron James.

  • Drew

    This game intrigues me…

  • Mallalubba

    We will win if I could drive my car at light speed and then turn on my headlights.
    …I used to get excited about football sunday.

  • Roosevelt

    Predictions: Brady 350 yards
    Massaquoi 180 yards
    At least one RB 140 yards.

    Browns 35-6 over Detroit.

  • https://twitter.com/dj_2 DJ

    @13: We came close recently with that Steelers/Dolphins mudfest in 2007 (Steelers kicked a FG with :17 left to win 3-0).

    The Lions and Giants played the NFL’s last scoreless tie on Nov. 7, 1943. How appropriate would it be if they had the next one?

  • JNeids

    what’s the over/under on this game? 9.5? seriously, what is the lowest recorded O/U of all times? could this be it? will it be topped…er, bottomed when we play oakland?

  • Jason

    I’m grabbing both the Lions and Browns DSTs for fantasy football this week. I will then flip a coin on which one I play :)

  • Hoy

    Oakland would like everyone to know they’re extremely upset they were left out of the worst team in football conversation at the beginning of this article.

  • Titus Pullo

    The Browns will win if someone slips a Mickey into Daboll’s pregame coffee and he’s unconscious for the game. It’s a double dose of Detroit & Oakland this week as Cleveland gets both teams on TV Sunday and again on Thanksgiving. Thank god for Sunday Ticket.

  • Brad in ATL

    Is it wrong to pulling for the Lions this week to make sure Mangini does not come back? Lets say Lions win 21 – 6, is he gone Monday morning?

  • http://www.waitingfornextyear.com DP Diesel

    Oakland has won two games, including beating Philadelphia. They’re bad, but they can at least luck into two wins. Plus they’re now starting Bruce Gradkowski, so you know they’re good!

  • TampaBrett

    @17…ok guy

  • http://www.waitingfornextyear.com DP Diesel

    #17 is playing this game on Madden on the “Rookie” difficulty level.

  • http://gooddoctorzeus.blogspot.com DocZeus

    This has to be a first. Two 1-9 footballs team facing each other and the vast majority of their fans think their respective teams have no chance at winning this game.

    The sad part of this all is that if you merged these two teams together. They still wouldn’t be remotely be a contender.

  • Alex

    Merge them geographically and player-wise. Get the Toledo Jets.

  • OBSERVE AND BOOK IT

    “The stat of losing 32 of 34 really got to me. As bad as it has been for us, imagine following a team for two+ seasons and only seeing TWO WINS”

    Personally, I’d gladly take 32 of 34 if it meant having the best young WR in the NFL, a promising young RB, and a potential stud TE. Jury’s still out on Stafford for me, but lots of folks think he’s the guy…

    As bad as their record is, at least they have some budding superstars to give them hope.

    We just have Mangini, sucking our very will to live…

  • OBSERVE AND BOOK IT

    “I’ve heard that some credible football people (i.e., not Mike Lombardi) are saying that if the Browns lose this game, Mangini will be fired no later than Monday morning. Man, I hate to root against the Browns, but . .”

    That could be the best Browns news we’ve had all year, but I find it hard to believe Lerner would make the move.

    Not to doubt you, but do you have a link, MrCleaveland? Would be very interested in seeing that report.

    Something to hope for this weekend. =-)

  • MrCleaveland

    @30

    No link, OABI, this is just a big-time rumor.

    I heard it on one of those Browns TV talk shows on STO. I think Doug Dieken is the one who mentioned it. Or maybe it was Grossi. But they were just repeating what they had heard, so the validity level on this rumor is pretty low.

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