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December 30, 2009
Of all of the NFL coaches that are considered to be on the “hot seat,” BetUS lists Eric Mangini as the most likely to be relieved of his duties before the 2010 season at 3-2 odds, or a 40 percent chance.
In an interview with Bloomberg.com, BetUS spokesman Reed Richards had the following:
“With the action we’re seeing, Mangini comes out as the favorite as the first to go. There’s an old book about the wisdom of crowds and how they can usually spot the danger or trend right away. You’ve got to acknowledge that.”
Other coaches given strong odds of receiving pink slips include Tampa Bay’s Raheem Morris (2-1), St. Louis’ Steve Spagnuolo (3-1), Seattle’s Jim Mora (7-2), San Diego’s Norv Turner (4-1), Carolina’s John Fox (4-1), Jacksonville’s Jack Del Rio (4-1), Houston’s Gary Kubiak (4-1), Buffalo’s Perry Fewell (4-1), and Dallas’ Wade Phillips (6-1).
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Mangini Is Coach Most Likely to Be Fired, Odds Say [Bloomberg.com]
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Is Zorn considered fired then, because he is MUCH worse then Mangini, and it seems that Shanahan already has a foot going in the door. Also, Norv Turner is coaching a team considered by many to be the best/hottest team in the league. I find this as iffy right off that bat, even though I am not a fan of Mangini.
Yes, he’s off of the books due to the fact that WAS is allegedly already interviewing.
@ bobby – San Diego also fired Marty after they made the playoffs a number of times. Just because the weather is nice doesn’t mean people don’t get restless there.
Seems weird that Perry Fewell and Norv Turner would have the same odds. Where’s the wisdom in that?
Dan Snyder already interviewed an assistant to JIM ZORN about two weeks ago. Bloomberg article is BOGUS.
Is there also an Over/Under, or should I say “Before/After” on the date as well?
I’m out for the weekend. I can’t take no more. I Quit This (Expletive)!!!
Everyone have a very safe and very Happy New Year!
2010: Where we’re still Waiting….
Reed Richards’s bit about the “wisdom of crowds” has put my head into zoom mode; I am going to look into that one.
Mangini is wedded to the 3-4. Holmgren prefers the 4-3.
Holmgren says he’ll change if someone can persuade that it’s a good idea. Mangini is not going to persuade him. Adios, Eric.
Thanks GOD!
I’d say the safe money is on Mangini getting canned. Too many philosophical differences both on and off the field for he and Holmgren to co-exist. Besides, if you’re Holmgren, do you really want to trust your whole organization to a guy that you’ve never worked with before who already has a checkered history around the league? I highly doubt it. The only reason I could see Holmgren keeping him around is to basically run interference – thus, if he kept Mangini and the Browns stunk, he could simply blame Mangnini, and if they were good he could say what a great idea it was to keep Mangini around. Holmgren doesn’t seem like the type though to dodge accountability like that.
I know some feel strongly that he should stay/go, but I’m somewhat indifferent. I think he’s installed some positive elements into the organization, and I’ve been impressed with the way the team has played the last few weeks. That said, he bungled the QB situation horrifically, misfired on the draft, and terribly mishandled the Kokinis situation. Plus, I just don’t believe the brand of football Mangini wants to play is ultimately a championship brand. I think on balance he probably deserves to get canned, and that is the direction Holmgren will go.
Either way though, I won’t be upset.
I read the aritcle and they considered Zorn out already. still, I dont buy Norv Turner being on the hot seat. Marty got fired after never being able to win the big games (or any playoff game) after great regular seasons. If Norv gets canned then SD is crazy for firing 2 people who had great records in a row.
Onto Mangini though, I think he should go, but I wont say its definite he will. I dont think Holmgren will fire a guy because of 34, 43 on D. If Mangini is willing to let Holmgren get a new OC, and instill the WCO then I think he has a decent chance of keeping his job. Now, if Mangini insists that he has a plan thats working on both sides of the ball, and won’t work with Holmgren, then theres a problem.
Matt#2 @7 FTW.
The real story here is that BETUS has it at a 40% chance he’ll get fired. That means odds are that he won’t be fired.
The lede at the Bloomberg piece is incredibly misleading.
If 40 percent is the highest of the probabilities, its not misleading at all. Its not like they said “likely” instead of “most likely.”
The Bloomberg lede says: “Odds are that Eric Mangini won’t be back.”
If odds are 40% that he won’t be back, than they’re 60% that he will, which means that “odds are that Mangini will be back.”
I don’t know when “less than 50/50” started to mean “likely” anyway. When something is 40% to happen, it’s less likely to happen than not. Less likely to happen than not doesn’t mean “likely” to me. So I guess the lede and the title are both misleading.
I see what you’re saying about the title. They say he’s “most likely” to be fired among the coaches. Which might be true, except that they don’t let you bet on if a coach won’t be fired. So a more accurate title would be, Mangini is the person that it costs the most to bet on to be fired. It would mean more if they’d let you bet that he wouldn’t be.
But the lede is misleading either way. Odds are, in fact, that he’ll be back, based on those numbers.
Now they’ve pulled the odds off the board. The whole thing is very strange.