April 23, 2014

While We’re Waiting… QB Competition, Dez Bryant and Jamario Moon

Mike HolmgrenWhile We’re Waiting serves as the early morning gathering (even on the weekends) of WFNY-esque information for your viewing pleasure. Have something else you think we should see? Send it to our tips email at tips@waitingfornextyear.com.

Digging into Holmgren’s comments about the QB position for the Browns: “Citing the fact that he isn’t a ‘big believer in that competition stuff,’ he stressed that the team’s mind better be made up before camp in order to let camp run through one true starting quarterback, something so many Browns coaches, including Eric Mangini, have not handled well in the past.” [Steve Dimatteo/Dawg Pound Daily]

Pluto is talkin’ about draft picks and the NFL off-season in your Sunday paper: “The Browns would like to add another running back via free agency or the draft. They are not sure what they have in James Davis or Chris Jennings, because both played so little. Yes, they showed some flashes of talent, but Harrison was hurt most of training camp and early in the regular season with a knee problem.” [Terry Pluto/Cleveland Plain Dealer]

WIth that #7 pick, this new mock draft has Cleveland selecting Dez Bryant out of Oklahoma State: “Eric Mangini strongly considered selecting Michael Crabtree, and the Browns are now even more devoid of playmakers after shipping Braylon Edwards to the Jets. Bryant is in a class of his own as a playmaker, and new football czar Mike Holmgren has shown he will roll the dice on immense talent, as he did with Koren Robinson in Seattle.” [Nolan Nawrocki/ProFootballWeekly.com]

Love doing articles like this, and they put a lot more analysis into why the Cavs will have the best record in the NBA at the All-Star break: “Looking at the schedule, the Cavaliers and Orlando do appear to have the easier routes between now and the break. But the injuries we’ve suffered make nothing a guarantee. Here’s the combined schedules for the top six teams in the NBA.” [Jeff at the BBC/Fear the Sword]

New York NBA story about a Cleveland athlete. I have heard that one before… But wait, this is about Jamario Moon? “If an N.B.A. hopeful is toiling in basketball’s minor leagues, he had better make a name for himself quickly. N.B.A. scouts and general managers are not generally interested in a 26-year-old with a long résumé of teams, unless he has been a star somewhere in Europe. Then there is Jamario Moon, the exception to the rule.” [Sean D. Hamill/The New York Times]

Amare sat out the entire fourth quarter Friday as the rumors are starting to mount a heavy weight upon his game: “Stoudemire acknowledged in a TNT interview and again after the game that trade speculation has distracted his play. He told ESPN, ‘I feel like the confidence in me is not quite there with them, for them to want to shop me around so much.’” [Paul Coro/Arizona Republic via RealGM.com]

Analyzing the sluggers of the past decade for the Cleveland Indians: “The decade now ended was, for Indians’ fans, bookended by two giant, corn-fed, hulking men. Men who hit baseballs with mirthful rage and elicited honest rage from many Clevelanders for totally different reasons. Jim Thome and Travis Hafner could rake.” [afh4/Let's Go Tribe]

(Image above is via Joshua Gunter/Cleveland Plain Dealer)

  • http://shakesthesnowglobe.blogspot.com EZ

    Please no to Bryant at 7. The hole at safety is more pressing, the hole at corner is more pressing and if Berry and Haden are both gone I’d rather take McClain or trade down than pick up a wide-out that hasn’t played in a year and pay him 7th pick money.

    We should bolster the WR corps through FA and trade.

  • JJ

    From T.P. column “According to Stats Inc., the Browns had three players in the Top 25 in dropped passes. Harrison, Chansi Stuckey and Mohammed Massaquoi each had seven. Tight end Robert Royal had six. The leaders were Kansas City’s Dwayne Bowe and San Francisco’s Vernon Davis with 11. You know they give the receivers the benefit of the doubt as Braylon Edwards was only credited with four this season.”

    Call me crazy, but didn’t he have nearly four in one game?!? I think benefit of the doubt is an understatement!

  • TSR3000

    I have no problem taking Bryant if he high on our board. We have to go bpa, we dont have luxury of taking the position we need instead of the best talent left.

    I would prefer Suh, G. McCoy or Berry but odds are they will be gone. If the czar thinks Bryant is gonna be a stud then lets do it.

  • MrCleaveland

    Holmgren’s comment on QB competitions confirms how incompetent Mangini was last summer and shows how much Mangini needs guidance from someone who knows what he’s doing.

  • http://www.msblsim.com boogeyman

    No to a QB and a WR at #7 if the Browns do this they will once again show they have learned nothing even with the new braintrust at the controls. This team needs to draft defense starting in the secondary use free agency or trades to address both the offensive line and wide receiver position. Not to mention resigning Jerome Harrison and shutting Cribbs up with a new deal.

  • Mark

    boogeyman – but what if they have Dez or let’s say Bradford ranked so much higher then anyone else available? Do your really want them to take a lesser player just to fill a need? Aren’t we, as fans, in a position to have to trust these guys, especially Heckert given his track record? More importantly, dont you want them to trust themselves and take who they think is best?

    I agree, I would rather have a defensive player as it is what I think they need. But I am not in the front office, watching film and evaluating with my years of experience in coaching and grading players.

  • S-Dub

    I’ve been talking about Bryant on here for the past month. It’s not a real popular pick right now but that kid has Andre Johnson size with DeSean Jackson speed. The dude is amazing. Now I don’t know about his route running but I do know he has the hands of K2. There’s people that are saying no to guys like TO, etc. But, who do they want to catch the ball next season? MoMass? he’d be a 5th WR on the Colts right now.

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Udne9JTds5A Troy Smith Trade from Ravens to the Browns

    Let me make your decision for you Browns. Pick up Troy Smith from the Ravens, and let Quinn be the backup.

  • http://www.waitingfornextyear.com Denny

    Holmgren looks like he’s doing a funky groove.

  • jeff p

    I agree with Mark. Settling for a player of need who is lower on your draft board (e.g. McClain) just because you don’t want to draft a receiver there is not the way to go. It’s not like we have a stable of receivers we can count on. Getting Bryant would be getting a much greater talent…arguably, and fulfilling a position that some could argue is one of the greatest needs on the team. This team is not close to contending and to say we need to draft defense is ignoring the fact that there is almost no passing offense as well.

  • JackGonzo

    My latest mock actually has us trading down with the Patriots, someone who Heckertt has worked deals with in the past, and picking up the first and third of the Patriots second round picks and giving them back another 4th and 6th rounder. We then turned that into Brandon Graham, took Mardy Gilyard with our 2nd rounder, Perrish Cox and Tyson Alualu with the Patriots 2 second rounders.

  • http://www.msblsim.com boogeyman

    @Mark the draft is fluid so alot depends on the first six picks of course you have to rely and hope and more importantly entrust that with Holmgren and Heckert who seem to have solid track records that they will make the best choice I’m just saying as of this moment, right now, the last thing other then a QB I want to see drafted is a WR. If the QB situation (Troy Smith is not the answer no way) is resolved then I could see Dez Bryant possibly but the QB situation probably won’t be resolved for maybe a season. That’s all I’m saying. Besides that I’d be talking to Arizona about Anquan Boldin if I was the Browns. There is your answer at WR.

  • http://www.msblsim.com boogeyman

    @11 I love Brandon Graham out of that school up north but I don’t see a defensive lineman being a need for the Browns either especially in a 3-4. If I pick at #7, again it depends on the first six picks as well as who is available, I’m taking secondary help either at corner or safety followed by a linebacker.

  • bobby

    boogey- Graham would be OLB and rotate with Kam and Roth.

  • paulbip

    Here’s how the browns will look at the first pick: Berry, Bradford, Hayden. I expect Hayden to be left and picked. The Browns need a S, big RB, and right side in the next 3 picks. I like both Gerhart and Hardesty for a big RB. Iupati would be a steal in the 2nd round. Taylor Mays can’t cover and will be a bust.

  • Scotty

    Take that mock draft with a grain of salt. They also have Suh as the second DT taken, Berry at 10 and Hayden at 19….not to say that can’t happen but it all seems very unlikely.