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February 7, 2010Super Bowl chat with Jacob, Don Delco and the PD
February 7, 2010Browns defensive back Brandon McDonald has been accused of assault via his alleged ex-girlfriend Sabrina Parr. Parr, a personality on WKNR’s Really Big Show tweeted the following this afternoon:
From: @MsParrTheHost
Sent: Feb 7, 2010 3:46p
I have never been hit so hard in my life but I promise he WONT get away with this!
Later, she followed with the confirmation that it was in fact McDonald.
From: @MsParrTheHost
Sent: Feb 7, 2010 3:46p
So Brandon Mcdonald put his hands on me & went crazy! I’m definitely pressing charges & sewing his [edited]!
If you recall, Parr was most recently in the Cleveland news for her role in the Braylon Edwards assault allegations, which drew the ire of colleagues among the WKNR family.
As expected, McDonald has claimed innocence to the allegations…via his Twitter account which may or may not have been deleted.
Don’t by into da hype.. She jus tryna stir up some [edited]… She’ll b ok once her heart heals..
More on this as it develops.
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(Updated: 2/8/10 – 8:00AM)
73 Comments
You see, I didn’t make any of these arguments until it was pulled out of me. (Well kind of.) My opinion of information disseminated on Twitter hasn’t changed, and won’t as a result of this argument.
I love to debate and I didn’t think for a second that Frowns was truly calling me a bad person. No worries there.
@Bridgecrosser
I’m saying don’t take what she does on the show as gospel as who she is in real life…it’s entertainment radio.
@#49 – big blood, you make some good points. However, I think you are way off with, “why the need to rush to the defense of McDonald here?” That surprised me. I went back through the comments and couldnt find one case of anyone defending McDonald. Do not mistake the questioning of Parr tweeting with some sort of defense of McDonald.
It seems to me the whole discussion centers on the perceived validity of tweeting these serious allegations. I will admit it struck me as odd when I read that she tweeted about it. But I think Frowns (finally) got it right in his last comment. “Again, yes, all else equal, one probably should not go to Twitter with this sort of thing. But we have every reason to believe that all else was not at all equal here, and her decision to tweet as well as her situation as a whole should be viewed and discussed within that context.”
Why couldn’t he beat up Goldhammer instead?
I hadn’t seen Big Dood’s comment before I left my last one. Excellent work.
Mark, I think that the particular way Parr’s tweeting has been questioned by many here necessarily amounts to a defense of McDonald, which I think was Dood’s point.
Also, Craig, thanks. Though I do appreciate Kanicki’s looking out there. I see that you are viewing the Twitter thing in relative isolation from the big picture of this particular event, much more so than others here.
Frowns – No, no, no. It does not, “amount to a defense of McDonald.” That is just wrong. No one here has defended McDonald. I agree that those questioning her tweets should take the context in which they may have been made into consideration. Yet it is very understandable why one might question them. All of this has nothing to do with McDonald. You are a smart guy. Do not confuse the two.
I see what you mean Mark. I guess I just figured if there’s any perceived ‘victim’ of her tweets (if she were in the wrong to begin with), its the target of her allegations: McDonald. But if nobody’s defending McDonald, and her actions have no ‘victim’, then who cares? How wrong has she really gone by tweeting if she hasn’t harmed anybody? If that makes any sense.
OK, I think we might be splitting hairs here, but it’s probably more accurate to say that the way Sabrina’s tweeting is being discussed here without consideration of the context in which they might have been made essentially serves in McDonald’s favor here whether that’s the intent or not. I don’t see how that’s not the case given that there’s something of a zero sum element to this kind of legal matter.
I see your point.
@Ammo – per @Bridgecrosser
I’m saying don’t take what she does on the show as gospel as who she is in real life…it’s entertainment radio.
I agree. I am saying it can’t be discounted either.
Frowns I am disappointed by your inability to reply to actual comments, not your inaccurate digests or perceptions of them.
Everyone else seems to have come to a consensus here, but if you have in fact made a point here that hasn’t been addressed, I’d hope you’d be kind enough to explain what it is.
In the meantime, I do think it’s interesting that you complain about alleged “degrading comments to men who aren’t rich and/or good-looking.” Feelings hurt by women who made you feel like you weren’t rich or good looking enough? Who hasn’t been there, really? But it’s nothing that anyone should take personally or embarrass themselves in blog comments for, I’m sure.
Well had to way in on this…
Frowns, I can respect your opinion.. and you clearly have ties to Ms. Parr (which definitely appears to be clouding your judgement or ability to listen to others points)… But I think it boils down to a couple things. First, when something so tragic and vile as someone you love hitting you, the last thing a person would think to do is run to twitter. But hey, lets ignore this aspects entirely… The fact of the matter is that no charges were pressed against Brandon so far!
Heck, if a woman has as much as a hang nail and says a guy hit her the guy is taken to jail. I’m not saying that’s necessarily a bad thing.. But I’m saying if she did have a bruised up face… We’d have a Brandon McDonald mug shot by now. Not to mention the local media would have been all over the story!
Sabrina Parr is seemingly proud to be a jersey chaser. Heck, on the RBS she revels in her role as a shallow, slutty goldigger. Certainly there are roles people play on radio, I would just think this isn’t one any person with integrity would be happy to embrace.
And others have pointed out… If Sabrina had a case, she hurt it with the twittering. Not just now, but her past tweets where she talks about having anger management issues! Take all the Sabrina hate out of it… It’s bottom line not a good idea to make private issues public.. Especially when legal issues are in play.
Whatever my ties to Parr, my points still stand. A quick look at yours proves this:
“First, when something so tragic and vile as someone you love hitting you, the last thing a person would think to do is run to twitter.”
Again, not so. Not in the heat of the moment, and not when Twitter might be the only way a defenseless young lady can “hit back” in such a situation. As noted, if the facts of this case were to come out, no doubt the “Twitter” issue would be an ice cube in an ocean of icebergs, and we’d look back on the comments here and get a really good laugh.
“The fact of the matter is that no charges were pressed against Brandon so far!”
She has at least two years to do this. There’s no reason to think she won’t.
“But I’m saying if she did have a bruised up face… We’d have a Brandon McDonald mug shot by now. Not to mention the local media would have been all over the story!”
Not if her many friends in the local media are helping her keep this story private, because of course, as you say, “it’s not a good idea to make private issues public.. Especially when legal issues are in play.”
Again, all the denigrating talk about a 22-year old female radio personality here by a bunch of what’s surely old [white] men is somewhere between funny, sad, and revealing. She said she had “anger management issues” on Twitter! Cue up the exclamation points!!!!!!!!!!
She didn’t pull her Twitter account like McDonald did, because she has nothing to hide.
It would be fun to see if the IP address here can be traced to one of McDonald’s agents/attorneys. I’d put the odds at 90/10.
Yeah, her “friends” in the media are keeping this quiet huh… Which is it chief… She is happy to announce to the world on Twitter that she was beat, posts that are still up, but she wants to keep it quiet? Your argument just doesn’t hold any weight, she’s proud to label him a woman beater, put it out there for all the world to see, but she doesn’t want to formally press charges, at least not yet?
Second of all, I talked to Brandon and he informed me that the police were in fact called. The end result was he didn’t face any charges.
But hey, it must be racism since it’s a bunch of surely old white men who apparently have a problem with her. PS… Sabrina has no friends in media. Do you honestly think anyone who isn’t a 24 year old boy hoping to get in her pants wants anything to do with her? She’s a joke to any woman who’s actually had to earn their way in the industry… ESPECIALLY women.
Now she may very well have been hit. But at the end of the day this story doesn’t add up.
Frowns has reduced this from a discussion to a blind defense of Ms. Parr. I would continue but I don’t need his inaccurate age and race profiling, or his aggressive defense of social media.
“She is happy to announce to the world on Twitter that she was beat, posts that are still up, but she wants to keep it quiet?”
I can only repeat myself so many times, and it appears to be clear enough to everyone else here by now; but if you can’t understand the idea that Twitter might be a young lady’s only defense in the heat of a moment during which she’s being abused by an NFL player twice her size, I can’t help you.
“She doesn’t want to formally press charges, at least not yet?”
As you might know, complaints aren’t drafted overnight, and an out of court settlement is generally always preferable to going public right away. What’s your point here?
“I talked to Brandon”
Of course you did. It would have been a violation of your professional responsibility if you hadn’t.
“and he informed me that the police were in fact called. The end result was he didn’t face any charges.”
Of course, there could be a number of reasons why charges wouldn’t have been filed.
“Do you honestly think anyone who isn’t a 24 year old boy hoping to get in her pants wants anything to do with her?”
Sure do. To name three, try Tony Rizzo and Aaron Goldhammer, the guys who put on the top sports radio program in the area, and Keith Williams, the station manager.
“But hey, it must be racism since it’s a bunch of surely old white men who apparently have a problem with her.”
It’s understood that there’s an element of society that’s uncomfortable with emerging social and media landscapes by which 22-year-old black women from the inner-city may enjoy the level of personal and professional success that Sabrina has achieved; such success being, for a woman of Sabrina’s age, rather objectively unprecedented.
This prejudice was exposed during the Reghi blow-up, and Reghi came around to be sorry for it. It’s the same thing that’s flamingly on display in the comments here.
Did you notice that the OBR piece on Sabrina that was linked here yesterday has been pulled by the OBR editors?
https://waitingfornextyear.com/?p=24496
Thankfully, there are plenty out there who understand right and wrong here, despite what anonymous frustrated trolls might express at sports blogs.
Well Frowns what can we say… We’ll agree to disagree. I will say in closing you do neither yourself, or your arguments, any favors by just trying to veil legitimate criticisms as racism.
Also, as a former media member, if you choose to try and become a legit source for news, or to join the media yourself, you need to learn to be more objective. Just as Sabrina needs to distance herself from athletes if she hopes for a career in broadcasting.
PS.. Hammer and Rizzo “top radio sports programin the area”… Dude, that’s like being the world’s tallest midget. Might be better then anything WKNR has had in a long while, but that doesn’t mean it’s major market quality…. I know hammer is your boy though so we’ll let that go.
Safe travels my friend.
You have yet to point out what it is that I’m not being objective about here. Folks here are making unwarranted conclusions based on an extremely limited set of facts, and I’m pointing this out, objectively. The OBR understood this, which is why they pulled their piece. Prejudice, or even discomfort with respect to a rapidly shifting media and social landscape, is a pervasive force in this world whether you want to admit it or not.
And it couldn’t be more obvious that it’s at work in the comments here. If this wasn’t the case, the personal attacks on Sabrina leveled here would be backed up with more than “she annoys me,” she “publicy dates athletes,” etc.
You can attack my objectivity here, but what about your own in support of this kind of commentary? Again, the OBR and Reghi came to understand this.
You reveal your own limited view of this shifting landscape when you say that “Sabrina needs to distance herself from athletes if she hopes for a career in broadcasting.” Seems like she’s doing well enough at the distance she’s at, especially, again, for a 22 year old. Is there a chance you could explain the basis for this bad advice, or where the bright line is between “journalism, and entertainment”? Even a small chance?
As for ‘world’s tallest midget,’ I guess we have different opinions on the City of Cleveland.
Thanks anyway, though. Always nice to get free career advice from a “former media member.”
I should also note that if this is the best McDonald’s attorneys can do here, he might be in even worse trouble than one might think.
One of the highlights of this litigation would be the discovery papers for the IP address of “indefense”s comments here.
You the man Frowns, you’ve schooled us all.
All in a day’s work, man.
“One of the highlights of this litigation would be the discovery papers for the IP address of “indefense”s comments here.”
Hyperbole is great. This is hyperbole, right? Wait. You’re serious?