May 24, 2013

While We’re Waiting… Profiling Jawad, Judge LeBron James, and Tribe Job Openings

While We’re Waiting serves as the early morning gathering of WFNY-esque information for your viewing pleasure. Have something you think we should see? Send it to our tips email at tips@waitingfornextyear.com

Jawad WilliamsSpotlight on Jawad Williams: “Sometimes you’re misunderstood as arrogant when you’re really just quiet. Sometimes you’re seen as an undersized power forward when you’re just really a small forward trapped in a 6-foot-9 body. And sometimes you have to travel all the way around the world over the course of four years before you can come back to your hometown, play for the team you dreamt of starring for, alongside the good friend called the best anywhere, and then go home to your family and the gym where you first learned to love the game.

And sometimes you have to travel all the way around the world over the course of four years before you can come back to your hometown, play for the team you dreamt of starring for, alongside the good friend called the best anywhere, and then go home to your family and the gym where you first learned to love the game.” [Jodie Valade/Plain Dealer]

The young spitter that ev’rybody in rap fear: “With the NBA All-Star game getting under way this weekend in Dallas, Drake and LeBron James are set to judge the amateur Sprite Slam Dunk contest. The event takes place this Friday at 9:00 p.m. and will also feature a performance by Drizzy.” [Rap Radar via SLAMOnline]

“Got a note yesterday from Keith Woolner.  For those unfamiliar, Keith is the Manager of Baseball Analytics for the Indians.  He is also the inventor of many statistical methods and metrics including VORP, which is basically “RBI for smart people,” and which was a key building block toward all the all-encompassing value metrics you see getting thrown around today.

The Indians have created two new positions in the Baseball Analytics department, and Keith asked us to publicize the positions here because (in his words) “you’ve got a very knowledgeable and devoted set of readers.”  Keith evidently is not aware of our large contingent of birthers, flat-earthers, and people who think Masterson will start the season in the minors.” [Jay/Lets Go Tribe]

Perhaps the Browns made a mistake in terminating the contract of Donté Stallworth? [No Logo Needed]

And finally, your first place Ohio State Buckeyes: “Ohio State met Illinois and Michigan State atop the Big Ten standings following a 69-52 annihilation of the talent deprived Indiana Hoosiers tonight in Bloomington.  Though a beat down was certainly expected, what wasn’t was the way in which the Buckeyes disposed of Tom Crean’s 9-14 squad. Instead of another episode of the Evan Turner show, Ohio State used a balanced attack placing four in double figures while getting contributions from not only the remaining starting four but also the top three reserves.” [Eleven Warriors]

  • Jack

    Notes:
    1) If the three team trade goes down, the Cavs aren’t looking good.

    2) The Lakers are better without Kobe.

    3) I hope Jawad and Hickson are worth it.

  • Andy

    How are the cavs not looking good? Are you speaking of it not looking like we’ll make a trade or that we will have trouble winning the eastern conference?

  • Jack

    Not making a trade. The Wizards having moved two big pieces. Failing to get the guy LeBron wants. The Knicks getting massively bigger cap relief that we could have ever expected. Having next to nothing in terms of the ability to improve for next year. When next year rolls around, people are going to be shocked at how little we can improve.

    Unhappiness.

  • Jack

    I think they can still win the East, but that’s hardly the goal.

    And let’s be honest, they aren’t beating the Lakers now that the rest of the team realized they are really good…unless we got another piece.

  • Chris

    The Lakers are better without Kobe? That would be like saying the Cavs are better without Lebron. Simply absurd.

  • Andy

    Yea, I agree. Seems like everyone is torn as to which way to support, for this year or for the future. If we knew Lebron was staying for sure I think it would be easier not to make a move.

  • Jack

    It’s nothing like saying that.

    Why? Because the Lakers have a great team and actually move the ball. They looked unstoppable all night. Odom, Gasol, and Artest are still the core of a perennial playoff team.

    The Cavs without LeBron are not even an 8 seed in the top-heavy East.

    Sure, it may be a bit of hyperbole; but you can’t tell me it’s not intriguing the way that the Lakers have played without him. What’s scary, is that everyone realized they are good again. Doesn’t bode well for us. It would be a shame to watch this franchise be so close and then blow it because everyone is enamored with JJ Hickson.

  • mike

    what three-team trade? what?

  • Andy

    The cavs are playing without Mo and Delonte and we have been doing well, but I don’t think any one thinks that we are better without them on the court. Also, didn’t we smack the Lakers in the mouth twice this year. God knows what we would have done if they hadn’t had Kobe.

  • Jack

    Andy, that’s what I’m saying though.

    In some situations, the Lakers are better without Kobe. Like against us. When they played Utah last night, they got out an ran like crazy. Gasol was unstoppable. They were minus not only Kobe, but Bynum two. Oddly enough, they make both of those guys the focal point of their offense. When Kobe plays opposite another great player (e.g. Bron) he gets caught up in the show. He ends up taking 30 shots. When Kobe takes 30 shots, the Lakers lose more often than they win. He has yet to realize this. Our defense can key in. And all their other weapons are out of the flow, even Gasol, so that when they are called upon, they haven’t put up a shot in maybe 10-15 minutes of real game action.

    Last night, they moved the ball amazingly well, everyone was involved; and they looked great.

  • Jack

    @mike:

    Knicks: Tracy McGrady
    Wizards: Al Harrington
    Rockets: Caron Butler, Brendan Haywood, (Jeffries/Hughes)

  • mike

    2 or 3 games does NOT make a season. the lakers are not better without Kobe. maybe they get in as an 8 seed but they arent going far without Kobe. i believe at one point the cavs were something like 10-0 without lebron. lets be realistic here.
    as for the cavs without lebron, they would compete for the 8 seed in the East. not many remember or realize, Mo was a 20+ point per game player in Milwaukee when playing without Mike Redd. wihtout lebron, everyone else’s scoring would go up. obviously the team’s production would go down drastically.

  • Chris

    The Lakers are soft, whether Kobe plays or not. Odom, Gasol, Bynum, etc. have no toughness in the paint at all, which is why the Cavs abused the hell out of them twice.

    It’s still absolutely absurd to think that the Lakers sans Kobe will beat anyone in the West in a 7 game series, let alone the Cavs.

    If you want to be concerned about a team, worry about Denver. They’ll take the West this year.

  • mike

    thats a ridiculous trade proposal. houston is not taking on another year of jared jeffries. plus, morey is not dumb enough to want Larry hughes anywhere near the rockets team. caron butler is STILL a very good player. one would think the Wizards could get much more than just Al Harrington for him. did frank isola come up with this gem?

  • Jack

    @Chris – Again, I said it was a bit of hyperbole. And said in “certain situations.” No one is asserting they would win a 7 game series without Kobe. Although, definitely could. Just not against Denver. It would just be closer.

    @mike – It’s currently being considered as one of the more likely trades to go down (said hoopshype)…whatever value their source has is, of course, unknown.

    Point is, everyone should be much more concerned about the future of this franchise than they are. Everyone is falling into the confidence sauce pan and melting in the heat of this 12 game streak. Again, this team NEEDS to make a deal and get someone who can score the ball.

  • Jack

    In other hilarious news, Rick Pitino is reportedly interested in the Nets coaching job because he has connections to the Russian billionaire.

    Why does that surprise no one?

  • Dave

    The Cavs without LeBron isn’t a championship caliber team, but don’t tell me Shaq, Andy, Mo, and West couldn’t compete well against Chicago or Toronto. One reason we know this is that before the loss of our top two point guards we were doing fairly well when LeBron was sitting down.

  • http://shakesthesnowglobe.blogspot.com EZ

    @Jack

    You can’t extrapolate recent performance to an entire season. If they Lakers didn’t have Kobe for this whole year Utah would have had tape on the offense the Lakers were planning to run and probably would have defended differently. Remember how hot the Rockets started and compare that to where they are in the standings now.

    Does Kobe dominate the ball? Yeah. But the Lakers don’t go far in the playoffs without him. Gasol is soft, Odom doesn’t come to play every single game and they still have issues with consistent, quality backcourt play (aside from Kobe).

    Also, I thought in the 3-team proposal Jeffries was going to the Wizards along with Harrington with the Rockets just taking Butler and Haywood.

  • mike

    all hoopshype does it centralize articles/rumors from all over the internet. i just cant imagine that trade going down without ALOT more going to washington, like young players and draft picks. Washington might be in salary dump mode, but they can get alot better than just Al Harrington for giving up haywood and butler. the knicks dont have a 2010 pick and cant trade their 2011 pick (cant trade consecutive first rounders). Daryl Morey is alot like Danny Ferry – very reluctant to trade away draft picks and young building block players. i just dont see that trade happening from Washington’s end. its most likely that Hou and NY tried to figure out how to do a deal, and said “lets try to get this to work by involving Wash.” i just dont see it happening.

  • Jack

    @EZ – No one is doing that! I’m just saying they play better at times. And LAL runs the same offense with or without Kobe–the triangle. This is one of the reasons they can maintain their success without him. I KNOW THEY NEED HIM. It was just to point out that we need another piece. The Cavs don’t beat ANYONE without LeBron and Shaq being out, or LeBron and another starter like the Lakers can minus Bynum and Kobe.

    And I think Odom is dogged unfairly. He doesn’t show up for every game because Kobe only can’t get him involved every game. Sure, he’s not the most focused of players. There is some merit. But I think some of the blame rests with Mamba.

  • Jack

    @mike – This trade is all over ESPN as well.

  • Chris

    Utah also shot 15% from 3 and 52% from the FT line last night. I’m sure this had something to do with them getting blown out.

  • Jack

    Lord. Obviously they didn’t play all that well.

    Doesn’t change the fact that the Lakers play well without Kobe and that the Cavs need a trade to go down.

  • mike

    jack – i saw that on espn too. doesnt mean its going to happen. i still think Washington would need to get alot more in return to send off haywood and butler. especially butler.

    the cavs at one point were something like 10-0 without lebron.

  • Alex

    ESPN showed that its source for that trade rumor is Yahoo.

  • mgbode

    Ok, I played around with the NBA trade machine and made this as equitable as possible for all 3 teams.

    http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=yffe3va

    NY: McGrady
    Wash: Harrington, Nate Robinson, Houston 1st round pick
    Hou: Butler, Haywood, Jeffries

    NY – sheds Jeffries salary from next year. likely losing Nate this offseason anyway.

    Wash – Harrington allows them to trade Jamison. Nate gives them a scoring PG since Arenas is not likely coming back.

    Hou – they have to take on Jeffries…and give up a 1st rounder. But, they have a chance at actually competing with Butler and Haywood whereas right now they do not.

    I would still say maybe 25% on all teams accepting it though. Washington might be able to get more trading Butler and Haywood separately….Houston might not want to make those commitments….though NY will do anything to shed cap $$ (and the extra draw of McGrady wouldn’t hurt)

  • 5KMD

    Jack, maybe there is some backlash against your Kobe topic because of your inconsistency.

    “@EZ – No one is doing that! I’m just saying they play better at times.”

    But your very first post was this:

    Notes:
    1) If the three team trade goes down, the Cavs aren’t looking good.

    2) The Lakers are better without Kobe.

    3) I hope Jawad and Hickson are worth it.

    You can’t flat our say the lakers are better without Kobe (your exact words) and then change your tune when people call you out on it.

  • http://www.msblsim.com boogeyman

    @27 Perhaps Jack just meant that the Lakers can better sustain their play minus Kobe then the Cavaliers can minus LeBron. I feel the Lakers have by far more talent and have more guys like a Gasol, an Artest, a Bynum and even an Odom who can pick up the slack for a missing Kobe. You take LeBron away for more then a game and that impact will be immediate. The Cavaliers can miss Mo and Delonte because the reigning MVP is demonstrating first hand just how great he is and this is why no matter what any “fans” want to think people always start and end Cavaliers talk with LeBron James. Now granted LBJ’s supporting cast is better then a year ago but it’s not what it could or should be which is why I’m in favor of a trade.

    Just my opinion of course.

  • BillTheHammer

    Jack just don’t sniff glue and sit down and start typing. Like don’t drink and drive. BillTheHammer understands what you truely meant its cool.

  • mike

    frankly, id be surprised to see Morey in Houston take on Jeffries for this year and next, and give away a future first round pick, especially when their 2010 pick could very well be a lottery pick.

  • 5KMD

    If Jack meant that then he should have written it that way. Jack seemed to be getting upset that people were questioning him but his very first post was “The Lakers are better without Kobe”. there was no hedging or qualifying.

  • MattyFos

    This trade is just what LBJ wants, if he’s going to NY… A dismantled team. Nice choice Knicks… Maybe you should think about TRYING to keep a team together.. Add some pieces that LBJ would want, an unselfish PG, and Eastern Euro big dopey Center, and some guys to fill out the roster who love pre-game theatrics. I hope the Knicks shed all their cap they can and then LBJ signs with Cleveland, Wade goes to Chicago and Bosh finds a home somewhere NOT in NY. That would be AWESOME… Then David Lee jumps ship as well.

  • http://waitingfornextyear.com Jaythetruth

    To me, it looks like the Cavs are going to get Jamison now. I mean, you look at whats happened so far. The only teams that were interested in Jamison was Cavs, 76ers, and Rockests. Rockets acquired Butler and 76ers wants to trade their best players away.

    Wally has already said hes willing to participate in a sign and trade. You add all of that with the fact that the Wizards CAN’T void Gilbert’s contract and that they’ve already started their “BLOW-UP” of the team. It looks more and more like the Jamison deal will happen.

    Wally and Hickson for Jamison. Thats the deal and i don’t hate it. I think it will work but the cavs can’t turn him into a spot up shooter like they do with everybody else.

    The cavs philosophy is if you have a jumper, you’re going to be a spot up shooter. Mo was a great scorer with the bucks then he came here and we turned him into 3 point shooter. Hes a good spot up shooter but we don’t let him go one on one enough. He didn’t do it in last years regular season and then in the ECF we needed him to take some pressure off Lebron and he couldn’t (for the most part) get his own shot.

    HOW DOES THAT HAPPEN? A great scorer that can’t score. You can say it was the pressure of the playoffs but i think it was because of the cavs philosophy that Lebron gets the ball 100% of the time and decides if he wants to shoot or pass and that won’t cut it. We did that all year and then when we needed another guy to get his own shot, nobody could. Thats why we got shaq.

    But we also need an consistent scorer. A guy that can light it up if Lebron is off or on the bench. I think the Jamison deal would be great IF it were to happen.

    And why isn’t leon powe in any trade talks? He only has a one year deal and hes a proven player. Lets get his name out there and shop him around a little bit.

  • MattyFos

    HEY WFNY, What do you know about Marcus Camby? Are the Clips shopping him? He would be my number one choice for a big.. He’s a better version of Ben Wallace (he has an offense) and if we could resign him, then we wouldn’t have to worry about our future center, at least for another couple of years… Lemme know.

  • Team Brady

    is there a way to filter out all of Jack’s comments when I visit this site?

  • 5KMD

    Team Brady,

    Nope. I asked about a theoretical “ignore button” when OBSERVE AND BOOK IT was still around. Thier advice is just skip past his posts.

  • BillTheHammer

    The thing with Hickson is if he has a bad night tonight watch how many people will want to pull the trigger on a trade. BillTheHammer thinks that not only will this be a big game tonight for the Cavs, but probably a bigger one for Hickson. If Hickson can match up with Lewis they wil hang with him even through struggles, if he can’t hang with him I think Ferry gives all deals with Hickson more thought.

  • Jack

    5KMD – Clearly the very first post was perfunctory and intended to generate/precipitate conversation. Which it did. Not everything everyone types is meant to be taken at face value all the time.

    Team Brady – Can we filter out your display name? Doesn’t that discount you as someone who knows things about sports? What about the comments is so offensive to you that you want them filtered?

    The comments about Kobe were just for fun, with a dash of contextual truth. They generated a fun tete a tete. Besides, I didn’t think everyone in a Cleveland chat room would jump down my throat about it. I thought it would be more of a “Haha, Kobe’s such a ball hog. Imagine that team with LeBron” sort of thing. I assumed everyone would have given me/Cleveland sports fans a little more credit by now, and, thus, understand that no one would ever make such a claim with completely literal intentions.

    This isn’t CavsFanatic. No need to hate.

  • Jack

    BillTheHammer – Jack likes that observation and adds a +1. Of course, to 5KMD and Team Brady, the value of that might be -5 or more.

  • MattyFos

    MattyFos agrees with BillTheHammer.
    MattyFos may even start talking in 3rd person.
    Keep on keeping on BillTheHammer.

    In all seriousness BillTheHammer does bring up a good point. This game may be make or break for JJ.

  • Jack

    also @ 5KMD – No one was getting upset about being questioned. Nothing was delivered as fact. Do you and Team Brady always take anti-Kobe sports banter this seriously? If I got upset that people were “questioning me,” which would imply that I really believed that, then I would have defended it, not tried to clarify to those who clearly misinterpreted the spirit of the post.

  • http://www.msblsim.com boogeyman

    Boogeyman is amused! ;)

    @Jaythetruth lets hope your right about a trade but I personally think Ferry will shy away from doing anything for the second year I just hope the end results are different then they were a year ago. I think the Cavaliers might get to the last round but without a trade I can’t see them beating the Lakers in a seven game series not even if the MVP records a triple double for the series. Of course this OPINION is based on Cleveland and LA meeting for all the marbles.

  • Matt#2

    BillTheHammer is all the rage.

    Jack, et al., – I’m rooting for JJ to do well. The fan experience, without watching a guy like JJ turn into a man on the team you root for, would be incomplete. That’s right, JJ completes my Cavs fan experience. I’m not so interested in whoever wears Cavs uniforms winning, I want to see the guys I’ve come to appreciate here win here. I’ve come to appreciate JJ. I am clearly not alone. Maybe it will be my just desserts not to see a championship. Dunno.

  • http://waitingfornextyear.com Jaythetruth

    Yeah, i think you guys are right. JJ has alot riding on tonight. If the cavs lose JJ will probably be gone. If we win he has to play well to win over MOST cavs fans as a legitimate 4 we can depend on through the playoffs and for the future.

    And also, Orlando has alot riding on tonight as well. I think if they lose to us for the second time this year they might want to add a peace or drop a player.

    I hear alot of you guys saying that Orlando is no longer a ture threat to the cavs this year but i disagree. I think they would take us to 7 in a playoff series.

    But again, tonight is pivotal beyond human belief.

  • Matt#2

    “tonight is pivotal beyond human belief”
    Jaythetruth, that’s how you talk yourself into a bucket of wings, a keg, and a big screen tv.
    I’m in.

  • http://www.msblsim.com boogeyman

    @44 Jay I don’t think tonight is pivotal at all but it will be interesting to see how the Cavaliers play verse a real opponent for a change without Mo and perhaps Delonte. The good news is Orlando is playing on back to back nights.

    As far as the people who think Orlando isn’t a threat, consider the sources. They obviously are biased.

    As for JJ Hickson it would be great if he could justify Ferry’s decision to draft him but I’m sorry eventhough he has played better he’s nowhere close to being anything like I’ve read some people describe him. The kid should be a junior in college not the starting PF on the NBA team with the best record vying for a championship. The only reason he starts is because Brown couldn’t do anything else with him plus it allows Mr. Energy Varejao to come off the bench where he is at his best.

    Boogeyman will be watching tonight especially #21 to see this future All-Star in action. I’m anxious to see if he can actually Catch the ball cleanly; Go up strong in traffic; and Score on anything else other then a dunk or from further then a foot from the basket. Btw when did hanging on the rim not equal a technical? Boogeyman is curious to know.

  • http://waitingfornextyear.com Jaythetruth

    @Boogeyman, you’re just saying that because he want hickson gone. I understand but if the cavs win the overall picture of the 1st half of the season would make it close in insanity to trade when you have the best record and you beat all the top teams.

  • BillTheHammer

    BillTheHammer agrees with Boogeyman. Hickson is like a freshman playing on the varsity with 5 Red Bulls in him. He get some rebounds and screams when dunking (which BillTheHammer enjoys and yells to). Bill like Hickson but he is to inconsistent. Besides if the Cavs get someone to play the 4 without losing Hickson you think Hickson will take some of Varejo’s minutes…BillTheHammer thinks not

  • http://www.msblsim.com boogeyman

    @47 jay you can have the best record (by just 1 1/2 games) and still have areas that need improvement. Unlike the Lakers Boogeyman feels the Cavaliers can improve which is another reason I strongly support the need for a trade especially to address the need at PF.