June 19, 2013

NFL Trade News: Browns Acquire Draft Pick for Corey Williams

LOL Corey WilliamsThe first big splash of free agency for the Browns wasn’t a signing, but a trade. Defensive lineman Corey Williams will be heading to Detroit. The details are mixed as to what type of pick the Browns received for Williams. The best information we have is that the pick is a 5th rounder. It is possible that the pick is for next year’s draft however. We might not get the full details until Williams takes his physical and the deal is completed.

As has been written here before, the Browns have a ton of money invested in the defensive line. While I think that both lines are vital to a team’s success and that they certainly deserve a piece of the pie, the Browns were paying an awful lot for a guy that had lost his starting job. When Williams came here after the 2007 season along with Shaun Rogers, he was supposed to stabilize a weak position. That never happened. He was never the pass rush threat in Cleveland that he was in Green Bay. The switch from a 4-3 to a 3-4 certainly could be to blame. Others have suggested that Williams, like some who get a big payday, became less motivated.

No matter the reason, Williams was never going to see the nearly $9 million dollars owed to him from the Browns this year. The Browns would have probably cut him had they not found a suitor for him. Enter the Lions.

The Lions get a player that they need without having to go through the hassle of free agency. The Browns get out of a terrible contract. Is Williams worth more than a 5th rounder? Certainly he is in a 4-3 defense. No 5th rounder is going to be making $8 million and change this season or next for that matter.

The Browns are probably not done dealing either. Keep checking back, and follow us on twitter to stay up with the latest.

  • http://www.msblsim.com boogeyman

    Hopefully this is the start and not a continuation of the excellent history otherwise known as Browns trading and drafting! Amazing how Williams looked so good in Green Bay and so bad in Cleveland but we should be use to that by now.

  • http://www.waitingfornextyear.com DP

    Williams was one of those guys who they thought “projected” well from 4-3 DT to 3-4 DE. Not so much.

  • Lloyd Braun

    Well, you never want to give up a 2nd round pick for a guy, only to flip him two years later for a 5th round pick.

    That being said, I am glad that his contract is moving on to Detroit as he was making way too much for a back-up (major understatement there).

  • stin4u

    So were saying this move is more about money? A 5th or 6th round pick isn’t much, not that I’m sad to see him leave.

  • http://www.waitingfornextyear.com/ Rick

    I wouldn’t say it’s just about money stin4u, as Williams and the coaching staff had a few moments (according to the OBR) and we know how long guys stick in town when Mangini doesn’t care for them.

  • stin4u

    but this DOES free up money for them to sign Julius Peppers right?? hahahahaaaaaaaa….ah juust kidding

  • http://www.msblsim.com boogeyman

    @DP great point the system didn’t make sense for Williams either which is why I never understood the people who think Shaun Rogers could become a DE. I’ll admit I’m biased though I favor the 4-3 as opposed to the 3-4 which is just another reason why I was disappointed in the retention of Mangini. I thought if the defense had a strong suit it was the defensive line which is why I’d love to see some playmakers added in the secondary as well as linebacking group.

  • Andrew

    no but it does free up money to sign delhomme who would be the perfect tutor for any young pup we bring in to be our future qb

  • bobby

    @stin4u- this does make room to now make a splash signing we weren’t really expecting. Not that its all about money, but Williams was drastically overpaid and underperforming to go with that, so im not upset to see him leave for a 5th rounder. If it is indeed for 2011 then maybe it has escalators to take to up as well. if its this year, whats that, 3-4 5th round picks? i think it sets up well to move up.

  • stin4u

    @Andrew shouldn’t that be /sarcasm’d?

  • Brendon

    So does this mean we just move Rubin into Williams spot and we are gonna hang onto Rogers? I don’t really care that much for Rogers anymore.

  • bobby

    Boogey- Rogers would make a good DE in the 34 because he takes double teams and demolishes them. Williams can be blocked with 1 guy. The point for a 34 DL is to take as many blockers as possible to free up the LBs. So, if Rogers takes 2 blocks at DE, presumably the G and T that leaves the LB free or with a TE. 1 on 1 Rogers kills any OL in the game, and he can still penetrate 2 v 1. As a NT tho, the penetration just opened cut back lanes around the blockers. As DE he will either force the RB outside or into a pile since Rubin takes the middle blocks and does not allow the larger cut back lanes.

  • 5KMD

    Lloyd,

    “Well, you never want to give up a 2nd round pick for a guy, only to flip him two years later for a 5th round pick. ”

    Like cars, football players depreciate the longer you have them. If Williams had actually performed but was coming to the end of the line from an age or injury standpoint, I would have no problem with the conversion of picks. The problem was he never really performed.

    Rarely are you going to be able to recoup the exact value of someone from years ago.

  • mgbode

    Lions 1st day of FA:

    Burleson signed.
    Corey Williams traded for.
    Vanden Bosch leaning towards signing.

    They look to be the winners of FA (unless Chicago comes on strong).

    They should ask Washington how many titles that wins you. I’ll take the strategy of building through the draft every time. Thank you.

  • Lloyd Braun

    @13,

    Of course you aren’t going to recoup exact value. The problem is, the Browns got no value. They gave up a 2nd round pick for a guy who was completely unproductive for two years, then traded him for a 5th.

    I’m glad they traded him, but you have to admit he was a complete flop.

  • stin4u

    @14 well put

    /Dan Snyder’d

  • PNR

    It’s been said before but it bears repeating: I am so pleased that it appears that the front office actually has a plan. I really think we finally have a “credible football man” in place.

  • bobby

    THIS JUST IN FROM SC- Schefter just said Mike Fujita from New Orleans (MLB)is visiting cleveland this week. Makes you wonder if they arent just tempting teams to sign Dqwell…

  • http://www.msblsim.com boogeyman

    @bobby sorry but that is exactly the flawed (in my opinion) reasoning on why I totally disagree about Rogers being a DE. It’s alot easier to block or impeded someone like Rogers as an end then it is as a tackle which is why I personally love him inside along with Rubin in a 4-3. Besides this in a 3-4 you need good linebackers and the Browns don’t have them at all. The fact that Roth came in off basically the street and outplayed DQ “I wanna be paid” Jackson not to mention Wimbley is further proof of why I don’t like the 3-4 here but with Mangini squares should fit in circles!

  • bobby

    sorry… scott* fujita.

  • http://www.msblsim.com boogeyman

    @18 bobby if Fujita can bring Sharper (a former GB Packer) I’d be even happier but this goes to my point about the linebackers or should I say the lack of linebackers on the Browns roster.

  • bobby

    haha.. dude ive told you too many times that rubin isnt a DT. go back and read that. also, Jackson was hurt for the last 10 games, aka well before roth came along. i would not disagree that the LB core needs to be strengthened, but get your facts straight man… Roth is an OLB and Jackson is a ILB btw as well.

  • JM

    More Browns players demanding new contracts. This team finished 5-11 right? Jackson also got hurt and isn’t exactly all pro. How does that equal more money?

  • stin4u

    can we trade whoever’s idea it was to wear brown pants? plz?

  • http://www.msblsim.com boogeyman

    @22 Rubin is a DT but whateva as far as ILB verse OLB I was speaking of the linebackers as a whole I didn’t realize I needed to be more specific.

  • stin4u

    turns out we also gave up a 7th round pick

  • bobby

    jackson was still hurt for 10 games last year. and no Rubin would not be a good DT. He is a good NT but that is not the same. Its almost like talking to isis when you continually have to say the same thing over and over again. Rubin would not, and does not penetrate the backfield like he would have to as a DT, but as a NT he eats blocks, which you are s’posed to as NT.

  • http://www.msblsim.com boogeyman

    @27 Clearly you are Vince Lombardi reincarnated – you wanna split hairs between such labels such as DT and NT well no thank you – take a poll and ask people more importantly football people how many of them would start a near 400 lb. All-Pro DT at DE and let me know, until then have a nice day! :)

  • Gren

    I’m pretty sure with Rogers next to him, Rubin would have no problem penetrating the backfield…