August 27, 2014

While We’re Waiting… Sibling Rivalry, Cavs Fall Flat and Mangini Safe

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Rex Ryan impersonates his brother, calls him fat. I wonder what Rob’s presser will be like this week? Video starts at the 2:22 mark. [NY Jets/NFL.com]

Still, a three game winning streak was nice. “The Cavaliers found themselves in a familiar position tonight. A ten point halftime lead, a horrific 3rd quarter and a grinder down the stretch. The only difference being the outcome of the ball game. The Cavs could not find their rhythm down the stretch and in turn fell to the Nets 95-87.” [Fear the Sword]

Penn State writer feels team is getting disrespected. Here’s a thought- win some more games. “The oddsmakers aren’t impressed, though. They’ve established No. 8 Ohio State (4-1, 8-1) as an 18-point favorite for Saturday’s Big Ten game at Ohio Stadium (3:30, TV-ABC), the largest point spread against the Nittany Lions (3-2, 6-3) since at least 1988.”It’s kind of insulting,” tailback Evan Royster said. “We’ve proved we can win games. I think a lot of people will take offense to it, and I think it will make people work harder.” [Rich Scarcella/Reading Eagle]

At least one writer thinks Mangini has done enough already to save his job- “That being said, is it safe to say that head coach Eric Mangini has secured his job for another season? The Browns are 7-5 in their last 12 games and have begun to develop a punishing running game. There is an obvious identity this team is trying to form, and we shouldn’t underestimate the value of having a clear plan for the future. For once, there are a number of teams that look far more lost than the Browns. [DiMatteo/Dawg Pound Daily]

The Indians’ left field situation. How bad was it? “This went a lot better than it looked like it would. Even if Michael Brantley was successful as a hitter, he was going to struggle to slug .400. It turned out the Brantley would play more center field than left field, allowing the Indians to run out left fielders who would hit the ball out the park. And, what do you know? They somehow finished in the top half of the league.” [Ryan/Let's Go Tribe]

  • jimkanicki

    i think rob’s go-to move is to pull out the hank stram red vest!
    http://www.kcchiefsgames.com/Artwork/t1_stram_si.jpg

  • C-Bus Kevin

    Consider me another writer, at least in this comments section, that thinks Mangini has done enough already to keep his job for next year. I was actually surprised to see in John Clayton’s “Mid-Season Grade Card Report” that he considered Mangini’s job security to be in doubt.

    This is what everyone always says they want to see…progress. They finished the season strong last year. They just beat the Saints and Pats in back-to-back games.

    If you use your eyes (and your brain) you can see this team is better than it has been in years, and should get even better with a good draft next year.

  • stin4u

    I have to say….that Rex Ryan bit was pretty funny. The guy has a huge ego but I will say I like him.

    Re: The cavs. I dunno if it was the back to back or what but man did they look flat last night. There were spurts where they looked good, but a lot of the time in the second half it looked like they reverted to Mike Browns offensive sets (walking the ball up, pounding it around for a bit, horrible fade away jumper). Hopefully a few days off will remedy this.

  • TSR3000

    C-Bus,

    Doesn’t part of you wonder why we take so long to start winning each season? If Gruden were available and wanted the gig would you still want Mangini back?

  • MrCleaveland

    Ya gotta love Rex’s have-a-little-fun attitude. That was great.

  • http://www.waitingfornextyear.com DP

    Dear Evan Royster,
    As someone who generally thinks the Buckeyes are a bit overrated, let me just say to you that BEATING MICHIGAN AND NORTHWESTERN DOES NOT EQUATE TO “SHOWING PEOPLE [YOU] CAN WIN GAMES.” Sorry, it just doesn’t. Michigan’s defense is in-the-triple-digits-nationally bad, and Northwestern is, well Northwestern.

    Sincerely,
    DP, the Michigan Fan

    I think the Bucks cover the spread easily on this one.

  • BisonDeleSightings

    @TSR3000, maybe Mangini is taking tips from The Grinder.

  • http://www.waitingfornextyear.com DP

    @TSR, just speaking for myself here, but the difference between last year and this year both on the field as well as in the standings is stark. Last year the Browns had a much easier schedule and started 1-11 while getting blown out in eight of their first nine games. This year they’ve been in every game except for maybe the Pittsburgh game (and they were in that one on the scoreboard, at least, in the third quarter) and are 3-5 while losing four of their five games by a combined 22 points. This 3-5 team has only allowed four more points than they’ve scored.

    That would be improvement, and to pull a Dan Snyder move and fire him after all the work that’s been done would be silly.

  • Chris

    I have to agree with the “progress has been made, let’s stay the course comments”. And I don’t care who was available for the gig, I would want Mangini. This organization has completely lacked in vision and stability since 1999, and I would argue that that is one of its biggest setbacks.

    Let’s build an organization built on a consistent vision here, and if it turns out that vision can’t get us over the hump in a few years, then we can talk regime change. Honestly, though, I fully expect a playoff berth next year if we do well in the draft.

  • C-Bus Kevin

    @ TSR3000…Absolutely not. I do not want Jon Gruden taking over this team. I’m sure he’s a decent coach, but you’ve just illustrated exactly what’s wrong with the way we look at coaches and players. We overvalue short term success.

    Gruden won one Super Bowl with players Tony Dungy assembled, and now he’s an elite coach? He promptly spent the next several years running that team into the ground until they finally bottomed out last year.

    The Browns are obviously getting better. Why change now? I envy the teams who’s owners have the patience to stick with a genuinely good coach even when they have an off year (Tennessee comes to mind…as does Pittsburgh). I’m not totally sold on Mangini as a good coach, but he has done a great job of removing the bad apples and turning this team into a respectable organization around the NFL.

    Overall, I think this question will answer itself when the Browns finish at .500 or better.

  • BuckeyeDawg

    Unless the the last two weeks were a fluke, and the whole team implodes over the next 8 weeks and we finish with 3 or 4 wins, Mangini should stay. Any of the national “talking heads” who think that Mangini is on the hot seat right now are reaching. He is as safe now as he as been at any point in his tenure. That can certainly change for the worse, but right now he is pretty safe in my opinion.

  • http://serandez.blogspot.com Ezzie

    The talking heads need to say that Mangini is on the hot seat because it’s exactly what they’ve been saying for a year, and they can’t backtrack. If it turns out these wins were a fluke then they get to pat themselves on the back.

    Honestly, the best analysis of the Browns are by looking at the actual clips and seeing how they’re playing really smart, driven football. There’s a real system in place on both offense and defense and it’s only when players make large errors (like bad picks or blowing a coverage badly) that it can fall apart.

  • http://serandez.blogspot.com Ezzie

    Just to add on what I just wrote – if you think about what cost them every game except the Steelers (maaaybe Falcons) game you can pinpoint it to clearly blown actions by individual players on individual plays – Wright against the Ravens, Delhomme INTs against TB/ATL, Wallace INT against KC. (Even then, both the Ravens and KC needed tough first downs to clinch.)

    Those were all against good teams; the Steelers are possibly the best team in the NFL, and the Falcons are up there.

    Figure they have only given up 2 rushing TDs all season, one 100-yard rusher in about a year and I believe have much improved 3rd/4th down rates on both sides of the ball.

  • mgbode

    Cavs win on the road, lose at home.

    Hopefully we start to learn how to beat the bad teams at home because if we aren’t going to implode and start over, then we need every last one of these wins in the battle with the Bulls to win the division.

  • JM

    For starters I don’t see Gruden giving up the MNF