May 20, 2013

Colt McCoy Sits Alone Atop Depth Chart

Well, if there was ever a question in Browns minds, there isn’t anymore.  As of yesterday, Colt McCoy has been named the starter for the Browns in the first opportunity since all quarterbacks regained their health.

Eric Mangini (much to the chagrin of many of you) chose Jake Delhomme consistently over Seneca Wallace in the last few weeks.  The reason for that remains unclear.  We aren’t sure, and might never be.  Does Eric Mangini consider Seneca Wallace a backup no matter what?  Did he not appreciate even the modest statements that Seneca Wallace made just prior to getting healthy about the team needing to choose one quarterback?  Was it simply a professional courtesy to Jake Delhomme because Mangini (and Holmgren and Heckert) are keenly aware that Delhomme won’t be back here next season?  There are a lot more questions than answers here.

One answer we do have is that at the end of it all, Colt McCoy is the preference based on what the coaches have seen so far this season when all three quarterbacks were again healthy options.  The coach announced it during Thursday’s conference with the media.

“In terms of the quarterback situation and the plans moving forward I thought Colt (McCoy) looked good yesterday. I thought he moved really well which is what I expected. He got the bulk of the work with the first team and the plan is for him to start here this weekend and to start the remainder of the season. My thought process on that is that he did a really good job when he played and he improved every single week. He’s earned this opportunity.”

The coach also went on to confirm a couple of the suspicions that I had throughout the last few weeks as far as how the quarterback decisions have been getting made.  For all those who seemed to think that Mangini was “risking his livelihood” by going with Jake Delhomme, it appears you are wrong.  Just as I suspected, this is a true organization of football people working together and Mike Holmgren has been in on the discussions.

“We talked a little bit about it, talked to Brian (Daboll) about it, Carl (Smith) about it but ultimately it was my decision. I let Mike know about it and we talked through it and he’s been great with any decisions that have taken place during the course of the year. He’s a really good sounding board.”

Now it doesn’t really matter what happens the rest of the year.  Even if someone gets hurt, we know where everyone stands, or at least have a very very good guess.  Seneca Wallace is a designated backup and will presumably never have a chance to compete to be a starter.  Jake Delhomme has performed admirably as a teammate and competitor, but he has officially been beaten out by Colt McCoy as the starter for this team and barring unforeseen strangeness will be next year.

It hasn’t been completely without controversy, despite my best efforts, but it has been close.  Certainly this has been the smoothest Browns quarterback situation that we have seen in years.  Kind of surprising considering three guys have played substantial amounts of time.

  • C-Bus Kevin

    Yay decision-making!

    Super Bowl here we come!!!

    Seriously though, I still hope they take a qb in the middle rounds next year. Colt’s been good, but I don’t want to fall into the Charlie Frye/DA problem where we fall in love with a guy after a couple good games and then he ends up being bad.

    Please H&H. Please continue to stockpile young quarterbacks until we find “our guy.”

  • sealedhuman

    I hope that the only issue in question was Colt McCoy’s health. I can’t imagine that anyone in the organization could make a logical argument that someone other than a healthy McCoy would give the Browns the best change to win. Congratulations, Colt!

  • Reggie Ruckus

    I think we all agree that naming a healthy Colt as the starter was the logical and obvious thing to do. As for Wallace, I’m sure his comments didn’t help him but it’s possible the coaches and front office were swayed by Delhomme’s leadership qualities and experience. Plus you spent 7 million bucks on the guy this year. Not returning him to the field after limited playing time might have hurt when it came to attracting other free agents this year.

    We all will also agree that Delhomme was beyond awful. Wallace really wasn’t all that great either. Even as lousy as Delhomme was, I had seen more than enough of Wallace tossing balls out of bounds. If I were to bet on it now, I’d wager that Colt will be the only one of these qb’s that are back next year. They’ll bring in another but hopefully lower priced vet as the backup and draft someone in the mid to later rounds.

  • ben

    This is off topic, but FWIW, on the SI 2010 Draft Redux, 3/4 of the Browns first picks now go in the first round.

    That’s pretty impressive drafting there Big Mike.

  • CoachA12

    Just a guess on my part, but I think Wallace never got the chance to start over Delhomme because the thought has been that McCoy will be the starter as soon as he was healthy. Mangini & Co took a giant risk to play an obviously inferior Delhomme over the more versatile Wallace, but consider this:

    The decision to promote McCoy over Delhomme would be far easier than if Wallace played, had success and then lost his job to a rookie QB. Amazingly, the Browns came out of the stretch without McCoy 2-1. It could have been a lot worse. But it was a risk they were willing to take.

    So the obviously inferior Delhomme loses his job to the obviously budding rookie/QB of the future. And Seneca Wallace is, and always has been, the backup. No controversy. No confusion. I think, had Wallace played, we would’ve looked far better in the past 3 games than we did. But then, how do you tell a successful Wallace that he’s losing his job to a rookie QB? You don’t. You tell a struggling Jake Delhomme he lost his job to a rookie QB. And Wallace remains the backup. End of story.

    Well played Mangini, well played.

  • sealedhuman

    If forgot to mention…

    As a big Mangini critic, I must admit that I’m very pleased with this decision. I’m glad that Mangini decided to give McCoy confidence and continuity by naming him the starter for the remainder of the season instead of playing his ridiculous and laughably ineffective game where he refuses to name a starting quarterback before each game.

  • http://216sports.wordpress.com Chris

    Can we drop the “OMG Mangini made a decision!” thing now? I could understand the line of thinking if all three quarterbacks hadn’t been banged up this year, or if both quarterbacks hadn’t totally sucked last year.

  • MrCleaveland

    I am glad to see that Mangini has acted like an adult and stopped playing his childish little QB games.

  • Dave

    If Colt keeps up doing what he has been doing, and we keep Turnstile St Clair out of the offensive line, then McCoy’s going to be good. Really good.

    Compare what McCoy does with the ball with what Delhomme does with the ball. Delhomme looks for a pass and takes it no matter how risky it is. McCoy looks for a pass, and if he doesn’t see it, uses his legs to buy time until there is a pass or an opening for a scramble. He may risk throwing it away, but he doesn’t risk throwing it to the other team.

  • http://www.redright88.com Titus Pullo

    Solid, strategic thinking on the part of the Browns. We now get a chance to watch and evaluate McCoy not only against the division opponents but in bad weather as well.

    Two keys points when it comes to Browns football, yes?

    8-8 baby!

  • Carl Tassoff

    Appears that Holmgren stepped in and stopped this waiting till the last minute to announce a QB each week. Like a guy with a 33-44 lifetime record has opposing defense shaking in their shoes. Heck, they mostly run and throw 2 year passes anyway.

    If you like what Colt does then next 3 games, then imagine he fun it’ll be watching next year when McCoy will be a part of a real NFL offense.

    Just sayin’…..

  • Ryan

    I too am truly shocked at how little a QB controversy there was this year, despite McCoy’s random emergence, Delhomme’s struggles and injuries, and Wallace’s decent play. Under Romeo Crennel or Butch Davis this would have been a circus. Is it Mangini growing up? Is it Holmgren keeping a cap on it? Is it both? I don’t care. I’m impressed by the maturity shown by the organization this year.

    Also, I’m excited I should be able to see McCoy when I go to the Ravens game.

  • http://216sports.wordpress.com Chris

    Carl, stop it. ALL THREE QUARTERBACKS WERE INJURED at some point this year, most of the season it was at least 2 of them.

    How can someone name a starter when they don’t know who’s healthy enough to play? You’re an insufferable broken record.

  • 6thCity

    @ CoachA12- I think you’re right on the money with that analysis. Throw in a little “respect for the high-paid veteran to help your reputation with free agents” and this makes absolute sense to me. It would certainly have been more difficult to pull Seneca.

    As it was, our progression went roughly thus: QB1 starts season, QB1 injured; QB2 gets start, QB2 injured; QB3 gets start, QB3 injured; QB1 returns to start, QB3 gets healthy and beats out struggling QB1.

    Crazy that it all happened in one year? Yes. But in terms of depth charts it makes tons of sense.

  • Tylor

    Colt McCoy is a true AMERICAN!!!

  • Chris

    Question: What are the odds Delhomme is interested in a coaching position? Seeing McCoys transformation from preseason to regular season, *someone* has to have been responsible for that, and I would think it was Jake’s veteran experience at play.

  • jbreg

    I also applaud Mangini for this move, but only if McCoy is healthy. If he is playing Colt because he thinks it will save his job then he deserves to be fired.

  • Carl Tassoff

    “8-8 baby!”
    _________

    Titus,

    Just yesterday I was writing on blogs that while Paul Brown and Blanton Collier never finished as low as .500, this generation of Browns fans would hold a parade if the team got to .500.

    Thanks for validating my comments.

    First off, other teams are ready for the tinker toy offense, so 3 straight wins are a reach. And even if they happened, trust me that Holmgren has already taken that into consideration, and remembering last years 4 final wins is telling himself – “fool me once shame on you, fool me twice shame on me.”

    The decision was probably made after the Jet game.

    Say hi to Frowns. He won’t print my comments because his blog is a Mangini safe house. Journalism at its finest.

  • 6thCity

    Hey, did anyone read Grossi’s report on the announcement? He says that Colt is walking with a “slight limp” and is “nervous” to start.

    Has this been reported by anyone else, anywhere, at all? What a joke.

  • Dave

    Dear Colt,

    Please don’t get hurt.

    Sincerely,

    Cleveland

  • http://gravatar.com PayDaMan

    @16

    Yeah like what Favre was going to do for the Browns before he un-retired and went to the Vikings. Actually I wonder If Favre is still interested in that job.

  • http://gravatar.com PayDaMan

    @16

    Yeah like what Favre was going to do for the Browns before he un-retired and went to the Vikings. Actually I wonder If Favre is still interested in that job.

  • MuptheM

    @ 18. I applaud frowns. I tire of you as well. You could add an OBSERVE at the end off all of your posts to at least make them more enjoyable.

    So happy Colt is back. Go Browns!

  • Carl Tassoff

    “Browns coach Eric Mangini acknowledged today that despite the Browns’ growth and ability to beat elite teams this year such as the Patriots and Saints, that “sometimes it happens” that coaching changes are still made.”

    Mary Kay Cabot, The Plain Dealer

    cleveland.com
    ____________

    I believe Holmgren told Mangini this week that he’s gone.

    Also told him to take his 33-44 lifetime coaching record, take the QB crap of announcing who starts late in the week, and tell McCoy he starts the remaining games.

  • Carl Tassoff

    “@ 18. I applaud frowns. I tire of you as well. You could add an OBSERVE at the end off all of your posts to at least make them more enjoyable.”
    ________

    Frowns is running a TMZ type blog.

    He know next to nothing about MLB or NBA, and his NFL knowledge is Cleveland Browns late 80′s on. No perspective whatsoever.

    OBSERVE

  • DC Tribe fan

    I’m glad Colt knows its him for the rest of the year. Looking forward to watching him continue to develop…well, or not…at least we’ll know more about the future of the Browns QB situation. After the last 3 years, thats a huge plus, in and of itself.

    @24/25…Why troll this board? You’d have more fun, and ignite more reaction, over at cleveland.com. That’s really all I have to say about that.

  • Tommy

    I can just see it now:

    Carl’s grandkid takes his first steps.

    Carl: “What the hell’s wrong with you boy?? I ran a 4.4 in my day!!”

    (Carl to his daughter): “Better throw him out and try again. We will not settle for mediocrity around here!!”

  • mgbode

    @DC Tribe Fan – this ‘Carl’ has been here before. he’ll go away for awhile at some point and come back with yet another screen-name. having a random poster trying to ‘ignite’ angry reactions is just apart of the internet these days (sadly).

    on the positive, it’s fun to tear apart his haphazard posts from time to time :)

  • Allen

    @18 Carl, I’ll bite, although being born in the late seventies probably places me in the “lack of perspectve” crowd.

    What does the Browns of 1999-2010 have in common with the Browns of the 1950s-1960s? What does the NFL of that era have in common with today’s era?

    I didn’t live through that time period, but the little I do know is enough to allow me to completely dismiss your comments.

  • http://www.missionary-insights.blogspot.com tmac

    I am excited about Colt. I think his style is a mix of Brian Sipe and Bernie Kosar. I have confidence Holmgren will bring a #1 reciver and with the emergence of Watson and Peyton, playoff run next year.