May 22, 2013

Running Down the Browns Pre-Draft Invitees (Part 1)

Pro Football Talk is doing NFL fans a great service by tracking all the 2011 draft visits by team.  You should check back often as it is updated.  I thought maybe we should go ahead and add some depth of information to their list of players visiting the Browns in case these names appear on Kiper’s board as the Browns move through the various rounds of the draft.

TCU quarterback Andy Dalton (3/?) – Dalton has been screaming up draft boards after posting impressive workouts.  The Bengals, Jaguars, Bears, Patriots and Browns have all been doing some level of research on him.  Dalton had an exceptional career at TCU.  He was the MVP of three out of the four bowl games he played in during his TCU run.  These were the Texas Bowl vs. Houston, the 2008 Poinsettia Bowl against the Boise State Blue Carpets, and of course this year’s Rose Bowl against Wisconsin.

The question for a guy like Dalton will always be was it the guy or was it the system?  He played in that exciting college spread.  He had to run the offense and audible, but whether he can adapt to the NFL game remains for NFL scouts and coaches to figure out before draft day.

As far as the Browns are concerned, I would consider this in that category of guys where Holmgren takes a QB every year somewhere.  I still wouldn’t expect the Browns to take someone like this in the first or second round, to be sure.

Oklahoma running back DeMarco Murray (3/?) – The Browns will have Peyton Hillis and Montario Hardesty competing for spots in the starting backfield.  After that, it looks kind of thin.  Murray is a speedster.  He posted a 4.41 second 40 time at the combine.  He is projected to go in the second or third round depending on which NFL draft website you check out.  He had over 1000 yards rushing in the ’08-09 season for Oklahoma.  The other two years he was over 700 yards.

He might be a great candidate to be a third down, change of pace back in the NFL. This season he caught 41 balls for 522 yards and 4 touchdowns.  I am still learning about the West Coast offense, but it seems to me that a really fast running back with pass-catching ability would flourish in the West Coast.  Because Peyton Hillis had such a good year, we don’t often think of running back as a need for the Browns, but make no mistake. It is.

Wisconsin offensive tackle Gabe Carimi (3/11) – Joe Thomas’ replacement at Wisconsin projects to be a left tackle in the NFL.  Joe Thomas’ replacement does not project to be a left tackle for the Cleveland Browns.  There is already a guy there you might have heard of.  His name is Joe Thomas.  Enough of my silliness.

Carmimi is a giant at 6’7″ and 314 pounds.  He is widely considered to be in the top five of OTs in the draft.  I can’t figure out the scenario where the Browns take Carimi right now, but they could do far worse.  The right side of the offensive line has been a struggle for the last few years and if the Browns can find a way to take care of other pressing needs, I would never oppose finding the solution on the right side of the offensive line for the next decade.

Eastern Kentucky defensive tackle Andrew Soucy (3/15) – Soucy was the Ohio Valley Conference player of the year at Eastern Kentucky.  He is 6’2″ and nearly 300 pounds.  This is a potential late draft pick.  Soucy might be legit, but it is hard to project him in the NFL after he dominated Austin Peay, Eastern Illinois, Jacksonville State, Morehead State, etc. in his conference.

LSU cornerback Patrick Peterson (3/16) - Previously discussed at WFNY in this post…

Miami cornerback Demarcus Van Dyke (3/17) – DeMarcus Van Dyke is fast.  He ran the fastest 40 at the combine at 4.28 seconds.  Van Dyke also beat Patrick Peterson by 0.06 seconds for comparison’s sake.  Van Dyke could be a late-round pick with a good amount of upside.  He finished four years at a pretty elite program, has lots of experience on special teams and obviously has some athletic gifts that you just can’t coach.  In one interview on Scout.com he is quoted as saying, “I can do anything they want me to do. I’ll play special teams, clean lockers, do whatever it takes to be on the team.”

(Stay tuned for part 2 when we get to the rest of PFT’s list.)

 

  • bobby

    From what Ive read, there are a lot of doubts about Murrays durability in the NFL because of an upright running style. Also, I don think RB is a need in the top 3 rounds unless its a cant miss opportunity, which I dont think there will be. If we take a RB in the end of the draft I would be for it, but Murray will probably be too high and I dont want to see us spend a 3rd or higher right after getting a 2nd round RB last season and having a RB go for over 1000 yards.

    Carmini would be a steal if he slides out of the 1st. If they dont go DL at #6 the only reason you dont in the 2nd round is if Carmini is there. Maybe they are looking at him in case they decide to trade down and get more picks as well.

    Van Dyke is definitely on a wish list around round 4-5 if they do not go for Peterson. Van Dyke could definitely turn out to be a solid NB this season and with the mentorship of Brown perhaps a solid starter opposite of Haden (eventually).

  • jimkanicki

    i’m stoked that carimi is coming in. i had a brief twitter exchange with lecharles where he said he’d helped workout/coach/lookat carimi. bentley likes him. my takeaway was that thomas could transition to RT easier than carimi (although either could). of course thomas would need to made whole for walking away from the higher dollars of LT. bookend badgers would be outstanding. (i’m not buying heckert’s lipservice about being happy with pashos.)

    carimi likely doesn’t last to our 2nd round pick and it seems highly unlikely we take him at #6 overall. this looks like a flag that we are open to trading down and that’s fine with me.

  • Omar’s Magic Glove

    I checked the list and am surprised that so far Cleveland has only one wide receiver scheduled and one d-tackle on the list. I also noticed one unknown corner from the Citadel named Cortez Allen that only Pittsburgh and NE are looking at, send a note to Heckert that it couldn’t hurt to check this guy out if these two are interested in him.

  • ShAmrock

    They need playmakers Peterson is the only guy on that list who fits the bill. First round especially. This lockout/strike is really going to screw up things. The lack of free agency couldn’t have come at a worse time IMO.

  • Omar’s Magic Glove

    @ 4…Is Von Miller not considered a playmaker? What about Bowers?

  • Clown Baby

    The Browns don’t need playmakers, they need the best person (regardless of their position) on the board when it’s their turn to pick.

  • Shamrock

    Neither Miller or Bowers appeared on the above list. But yes both are playmakers. I like Von Miller. Personally I like AJ Green then probably Peterson then either Dareus or Bowers.

  • mgbode

    “Badger Bookends”

  • Kunal

    can’t rule out the raiders using their first on van dyke