May 16, 2012

Paying Players Wouldn’t Have Saved Jim Tressel

(Note: WFNY doesn’t have a singular editorial voice. Today we will obviously have a lot of Ohio State posts as it is such big news. Remember that each writer’s opinion is their own.)

Excellent pieces already today from Andrew and Craig. There isn’t much left to say.

I think my stance on the Tressel situation is pretty clear. I believe he did the right thing by tendering his resignation. He allowed players he knew would be ineligible according to NCAA rules to play last season. And he tried to cover it up. That is the ‘unpardonable sin’ in college athletics.

But here’s the ridiculous part of the Tressel story- the idea that paying these college athletes would somehow put an end to the greed and keep the players content enough to stay away from those that would pay them for their signatures.

Yes, the system is flawed. But can you name me a major sports system that isn’t? How’s the NFL system working out? Pretty well for the owners I’d say. How about for the fans? Maybe not so much. How about the NBA? How’s that system working out? Or Major League Baseball?

A good number of us have been broke college kids. Do I sympathize with them? Sure. Was I an elite college athlete while going through school? Of course not. I did participate in a school-sponsored activity that required many hours of my time every week, including weekend travel which took time away from studying and my ability to work a side job. We received a small scholarship for our participation. But it certainly didn’t cover all expenses, and I could have made more money for myself working in a restaurant on the weekends. But I loved what I was doing. Wouldn’t change it.

I ate a lot of plain rice and cup ‘o noodles during that time. It was cheap. And here is the point of that side story- I was content in my circumstance.

The argument that these college athletes should be paid in order that they don’t seek to break these NCAA rules is ridiculous. It’s ridiculous because money never solves a greed problem. And yes, this is a greed issue.

You can be broke, and be content. These players were not starving. These players had places to sleep. Maslow’s hierarchy of needs anyone? Has there ever been a case where a student athlete sold something or accepted money because his family didn’t have these basics? Very likely, but those I am betting are not the majority of cases. Certainly not in this case though.

The NCAA can’t pay these athletes enough to ensure that they don’t want a nicer car, or shinier toys. There isn’t enough money to go around. Not to mention, they really can’t pay just the football and men’s basketball players either. You know, the money making sports. Good luck trying to get that passed. And they certainly can’t allow the universities to pay whatever they want for stars. Bidding war anyone?

So would an extra couple hundred dollars a quarter have helped save Jim Tressel from this situation? You are crazy if you think so. These players are at a prestigious university, earning a degree to help advance their position in life. They can strive to improve their life circumstances without breaking the rules governing the system. If they can’t be content in that circumstance, a couple hundred dollars here and there is not the answer.

  • http://www.waitingfornextyear.com Andrew

    To be clear, when I say the system is broke, I’m not referring to paying players. I’m referring to my personal belief that the system would be better if players were allowed to sell their autographs, memorabilia, etc. Let them earn what they deserve for their part in bringing in the millions of dollars to the University.

    Paying players is a WHOLE other mess. Very tricky to make that work, as you point out.

  • Matt S

    These are the reasons why players should never be payed in the NCAA

    1) Would further unbalance teams (BGSU will not be able to outbid the likes of OSU)
    2) Title IX and gender discrimination – football and basketball make the big money, but you can’t provide benefits to them that you don’t extend to less profitable sports

    Yes, it seems stupid that the universities get to make money hand-over-fist on unpaid labor. But it’s the best system. What perhaps should be focused on is putting that money to the best possible use.

  • Josh010388

    This is my thoughts exactly. I’m so tired of the just pay them already arguement. I am currently a college student and I have loans out the a– to pay for it… A scholarship for my athletic abilities (that I dont have btw) would be more than enough for me, and should be for these students as well. If it’s too rough for them to make it, DON’T PLAY! Maybe next year when they start paying them we can look forward to a college football “lockout” and labor strike! Yes!

  • Josh010388

    I’m looking forward to the bidding wars… OSU has their eye on a 5 star male cheerleader recruit… hopefully we can offer more than Michigan (afterall, we have to pay ALL sports, not just football and basketball as others pointed out)…

  • TSR3000

    I am a Michigan fan so take my incredibly subjective opinion with a grain of salt. The problem is the culture in Columbus that has existed for a very, very long time. It isn’t Tressel, the rules, the NCAA or the current core of players. It is a school, program, city and state that has no problem making winning football games a #1 priority no matter what moral or financial sacrifices are made. There are major problems when a school president jokes that he hopes the football coach doesn’t fire him. Joke or not that statement said a whole lot.

    Again, I am a Michigan fan but I have no problem having a down year (or two) every once in a while if I know the program is clean.

  • Kai

    Excellent article. Paying the players a paltry monthly sum (as was proposed at the recent B1G meetings) would not help players in any substantial way (although it could help substantively). Allowing the players to sell their own memorabilia is also out, because once again, the prominent schools with the richest boosters could simply pay whatever they wanted (e.g., $50,000 for a jersey?…Sold!).

    Personally, I’m not entirely sure why the question has been presented at all, let alone discussed at length on a national level. The proponents of this system have presented no information detailing how such a plan could be successful. Even a marginal sum would cost astronomical amounts of money on a yearly basis.

  • Lyon

    Paying wouldn’t solve the issue anyways. If you pay the players $200 month, what’s stopping the guys who are getting paid now from going to the Boosters and geting $300 or more?

    Overall, if a player is going to get money from boosters etc, no amount paid to every player will stop it.

    That’s why Rick is right, it’s a greed issue more than financial need.

  • http://www.waitingfornextyear.com Andrew

    @Josh: “If it’s too rough for them to make it, DON’T PLAY!” How exactly would that help their financial situation? Or are you saying that since you are a poor college student (as was I) that everyone should suffer just like us? You would begrudge anyone else making a better situation for themselves?

    @Kai: “Allowing the players to sell their own memorabilia is also out, because once again, the prominent schools with the richest boosters could simply pay whatever they wanted (e.g., $50,000 for a jersey?…Sold!).”

    Don’t you think that’s already happening? I mean, just look at Cam Newton, Will Lyles, and Stanley McClover. Cam and McClover went to the highest bidder. I just think that’s an entirely different discussion.

  • BuckeyeDawg

    TSR3000- as unpopular as it is to say, I think you make a good point…and I am an OSU alumni and fan.

    The obsession over football has reached an unhealthy level in Columbus, in my opinion. It seems much more intense now than when I was undergrad from ’97-’01. I lived in the Columbus media market from 2005-2010, and I just couldn’t believe some of the ridiculous, trivial things about OSU football that got covered on a daily basis. The expectations have become unrealistic, and in order to try to meet them, Coach Tressel sold out. Do people honestly think he would have made the same decision if he wasn’t dealing with his Heisman trophy candidate starting QB on a team expected to win a National Championship?

    We (the fans) helped create this monster, so I guess we get a little of the blame too…

  • Steve

    So Andrew, you believe that because some laws are tough to enforce, we should just go with total anarchy instead? If you want a free-for-all, you’re just going to exacerbate all the issues. As Kai said, we need to figure out a plan that might actually work before we burn everything to the ground.

  • stin4u

    Couldn’t have said it better myself.

    Paying them would just mean that the outstanding players would get x from the university on top of y from boosters and z from businesses…etc. Wouldn’t change a thing. No idea what would sufficiently take care of this problem at this point.

  • Tron

    I know, maybe if actually held these kids accountable that would help deter them from taking gifts from boosters. Write a clause in scholarships, if they take booster money or gifts or whatever and are found ineligible, make them pay back the cost of that year of college. I realize its harsh to try and sue a poor kid for 10k worth of college, but seriously these kids get a monthly allowance for housing, food, books, etc plus free tuition for classes. If they can’t follow some simple rules like not taking a free car from a dealer of getting free tats, make them pay that money back! Instead what happens? They get a slap on the wrist, have to sit out a couple games, and Pryor gets a new 350Z? Yea those are some tough consequences.

  • Garry Owen

    Not getting paid for luxuries is not the problem. Of course these guys should be able to survive off of nothing like we all did.

    The problem is that Columbus, and every other university community, is full of people that will always offer these kids stuff that we would all be foolish not to take (or liars to claim that we wouldn’t). The off-shoot of the problem is that it’s “illegal” for these human kids to do what we all would do.

    So, paying them is not the answer – but only because it’s a proposed answer to the wrong problem.

  • humboldt

    Disclaimer: I’m not a Marxist.

    However, in the wake of this scandal, and after reading Rick’s piece I do find myself thinking about Marx’s theory of alienation. The basic notion is that workers in capitalist systems (in this case college football players) come to feel profoundly alienated from their labor, since their hands produce wealth that flows to higher entities (NCAA, OSU, Fortune 500 Companies, etc) that control the means of production.

    It is no surprise that this badly imbalanced flow of wealth produces a pervasive sense of alienation in players, particularly in those from poor urban backgrounds, to whom this fundamental imbalance must seem particularly unjust (disclaimer 2: I grew up in Cleveland playing football against several former OSU players at Glenville).

    I don’t know how to rectify this problem. All I know is that this is a toxic cultural context for amateur athletes to be operating in, and firing Tressel and sanctioning OSU or other offending programs is just stanching a gaping wound.

    Personally, I think the NCAA elites need to re-write the existing rules with input from sociologists, players, coaches, boosters, and others whose voices are utterly silent in these sorts of discussions.

  • Du

    “For the love of money is a root of all kinds of evils.” – 1st Timothy 6:10.

    Like Rick said, you simply cannot fix a greed problem by throwing money at the problem.

    And I agree…greed continues to rear its ugly head in a multitude of ways in our society.

    And back to sports in general, the beat goes on. Every day it seems that greed increases and my distaste does the same. Not sure how much more I can take of it.

  • JJ in DC

    I think most agree that NCAA is a complete sham, and “amateur athletics” doesn’t exist in this day and age. I like the idea of clauses in the scholarship that could void the scholarship if money is taken from boosters, etc. But it still won’t remedy the problem. I’d like to think that stipends for athlets could work (especially if it was the NCAA paying the students from its own coffers) but I think you get more of the same.

    In the end, we as sports fans have created this monster that is big time college athletics (I went to a mid-major that is highly respected nationally for its academics so I’m sppeaking from the fan side, not the alumni side). Maybe it’s time to pull the plug on “college sports” and turn the programs into developmental/semi-pro programs to train the athletes for the next level. When you look at graduation rates at big time college sports programs, getting the degree isn’t the main concern of the student-athlete (I’m saying on the whole, since there are always exceptions), it’s getting to the NFL or NBA, etc.

  • Ryan

    I don’t know where to post this – and this has nothing to do with OSU – but I just turned the Finals off because the Heat are pulling away and I can’t stand to see LeBron celebrate a win. So I came to WFNY for some Cleveland sports and the first ad I saw was a flash ad showing LeBron with the copy, “There’s only one more thing to do”. I know it was an ABC ad for the Finals, but this is ridiculous. I’m not blaming WFNY in the least bit – it’s just depressing that LeBron is gonna get his ring. Oh well, lets go Tribe!! Mitch Talbot turnin it around was nice!!!

  • Rich G. (Polishguy00)

    This is interesting stuff and I have done some research on this. I have a podcast of my own and have done two reports on this kind of thing (May 7 of this year and July 31 of last year). The system is broken, but there needs to be better dialog on how to fix it. Even using reasonable sums such as $10,000 a year for players on top of the academic scholarships; the data from athletics departments tell us that not many universities out of the top 25 in football would be able to afford the system. It does not even work well if only profitable teams were paid, violating Title IX. Less teams available = smaller player pool = more corruption than less. The rules stink and paying players sounds nice, except that no one seems to make the numbers work. A new system would not have saved Jimmy T, but not lying may have. There are hundreds of self-reported violations every year, including recent ones by Georgia and LSU.