While We’re Waiting… Tribe Intentions, Wild Thing on Roids and Lerner’s Team

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“What the Lonnie Chisenhall promotion means is that the current Indians’ Front Office (not the previous one helmed by the current Team President) has acted quickly and decisively now to add their top prospects – ready or not – to the parent club as the opportunity afforded to them by their fast start is something that they’re trying to capitalize on. Maybe you wanted to see Cord Phelps sooner (and I did) or maybe you wonder what took the Indians so long to jettison Adam Everett, but the fact of the matter is that the calendar has not yet flipped into July and the Indians have promoted The Chiz, Al White, and Bobby Phelps (among others like Gomez, Zeke, and Judy) as they pushed the fast-forward button on ingratiating their top young talent at the MLB level.

While you may say that this doesn’t represent anything different than what happened in 2007, remember…Asdrubal didn’t arrive in 2007 until August and Rafael Perez and Frank the Tank had spent time on the parent club in years past. The Indians have an opportunity in front of them (…still, thanks to the struggles of the AL Central) and they’re promoting from within to see if answers can be found internally before perhaps exploring the trade market…if the Indians are still in contention at the end of next month.” [Cousineau/The DiaTribe]

The interview the internet is buzzing about- “Sheen: I didn’t like the haircut because it generated so many comments in bars. I’ve got enough of that already. Add that to the mix and it’s a recipe for a fistfight. I was already bitchy because—let’s just say that I was enhancing my performance a little bit. It was the only time I ever did steroids. I did them for like six or eight weeks. You can print this, I don’t give a f—. My fastball went from 79 to like 85.” [Sports Illustrated]

Omar’s bid for 3000 hits- “Now of course, Vizquel was never an All-Star nor an elite player because of his bat; he has never had a 200-hit season (the closest being a 191- hit campaign in 1999). So his quest for 3,000 hits (he is currently 172 hits shy) would be without that magic number. I assumed that if he reached that goal, he would be the lone 3,000-hit man without a 200-hit season. Besides, reaching 3,000 would mean averaging 150 hits over 20 seasons. And seeing that most hitters tail off toward the end of their careers, they would need some high hit totals to meet that average.

And a quick glance at the 3,000-hit club shows players who were regulars in the batting race and elite offensive players. So I actually began writing this piece with the premise that Vizquel’s 3,000 hits would be unique. It’s a good thing I actually did some research. As of this writing, there are 27 players in the history of the major leagues who have 3,000 hits. Once Derek Jeter comes back and gets six singles, it will be 28. Of those 28, five never had a 200 hit season. And their names caught me off guard.” [Sullivan/Hardball Times]

Does Lerner’s MIA status bother you?- “Some NFL owners treat their franchises like family, others like a bank account. Read the quotes from Steelers players about their owner Dan Rooney at the top of this post, and how can we start to think we could ever make up for the disparity? Is there anything more depressing about being a Browns fan than this? How can Lerner even look at himself in the mirror? He can’t be such a bad guy. What if he just sold the Browns to an owner the franchise deserves, or even just anyone in the gaping screaming canyon that exists between himself and Rooney on the spectrum of ‘people who should own an NFL franchise.'” [Cleveland Frowns]

On Grady Sizemore- “Statistically, the problem is quite simple: He’s striking out more and walking less than ever before in his major league career. He’s actually hitting for decent power, but it’s very possible that he’s selling out for that power, because he’s swinging and missing more than ever before, far above the league average rate, and that’s leading to a lot of those whiffs. Perhaps he’ll feel more comfortable at the plate as he gets used to being healthy once more, but he’s certainly not locked in. Whether or not his iffy plate discipline is linked to his frequent bouts of injury, he won’t be able to help the team offensively until he can command the plate the way he once did. Right now there are simply too many holes in his swing.” [Remington/Big League Stew]


  • boomhauertjs

    I’m willing to give Grady a pass on this season. Look at how long it took Hafner to get back to his old self and Grady’s surgery was more severe.

    I wonder if Randy even knows there’s a lockout going on…

  • 5KMD

    I’m OK with Lerner being MIA as long as he keeps writing the checks.

    The Rooneys are great owners because they hire great football people to run the show, something the Bowns are just figuring out again.

  • mgbode

    I agree wtih 5K. Cleveland Frowns needs to realize that while Lerner will never be the ‘best’ owner he will always do what is needed (and Holmgren can be that ‘best’ owner if we really need it). Be careful what you ask for in an owner.

    To that end, here’s another check that I am sure is high:


    Vic Carucci no longer at nfl.com. He’s a Browns employee. That obviously won’t get us any more wins. But that’s a pretty dang big name guy to grab for one team. Get the best everywhere you can is a good philosophy to follow.

  • http://twitter.com/Bbo13 B-bo

    3,000 hits or not (and I’m certainly rooting for him to get there), Omar is an all-time great.

    I am not capable of caring any less about the level of Randy Lerner’s involvement as Browns owner, so long as the bills are paid, the checks don’t bounce, and the name on the door is Cleveland. Browns fans who complain about the guy are probably my least favorite Cleveland sports fans. Bemoan the decade of futile rebuilding efforts since ’99 if you must, but the team is on the right track now, so it’s time to find something else to complain about. “Slow Lerner” and all that cleverness aside, I’ll take him over Jerruh Jones or Mike Brown any and every day.

  • mgbode

    I went through the ML-movie interview. This part stuck out to me and is my favorite part of ML-II (yes, I like that one too). The fact that they took Wesley’s attitude about it and decided that rather than write his character out; they would completely make fun of the actor that Snipes had become (played by Omar Epps) was absolutely hilarious to me.

    Bernsen: A couple years after Major League I saw Wesley. I said, “Hey, man, they’re gonna make Major League II!” And he was like, “You’re gonna do that?” And I thought, Wow, how quickly they forget. He’d become Wesley Snipes. That rubbed me the wrong way.

  • OmegaKing

    I know it’s nit-picky, but am I the only one that thinks Cousineau sounds douchey by typing “The Chiz, Al White, and Bobby Phelps…” like he’s best friends with all of them? Maybe I’m being picky, but is using their easily identified and already widely used names really that daunting?

  • crobarred

    Lerner said when he took over the team that he was going to get “football” people in the front office and he was going to let them run the team. After a few swings and misses he finally may have something in Heckert and Holmgren. As long as he keeps tabs on things and makes sure things don’t meltdown (like they did with mangini and kokinis) I don’t care if he spends all of his time with Aston Villa.

    I like Lerner as an owner. Would you rather have someone like Mike Brown who refuses to hire a GM and only hires family members? What about Al Davis? He moves his team so much that he has United Van Lines on speed dial. Lerner is still paying his employees during the lockout..hasn’t layed anyone off. To echo other peoples sentiments…long as he keeps signing the checks I’m ok with however much involvement he wants with the team.

  • http://www.clevelandfrowns.com Cleveland Frowns

    “Bemoan the decade of futile rebuilding efforts since ’99 if you must.”


    “A few swings and misses” LOL. When’s his next appointment with Dawg Pound Mike?

  • mgbode

    @Cleveland Frowns – think of Mike Holmgren as the owner if it makes you feel better.

  • http://www.clevelandfrowns.com Cleveland Frowns

    “Randy Lerner is not one of the absolute worst owners in sports, so I have no problem with him.”

    Got it.

    In Holmgren we Trust. Lace up the Nike Windrunners and pass the phenobarbitol.

  • http://www.clevelandfrowns.com Cleveland Frowns

    @mgbode 8: “think of Mike Holmgren as the owner if it makes you feel better.”

    It really doesn’t. Carmen Policy was great, too, before he came to work for the Lerners. Phil Savage, Butch Davis. Everybody’s top choices. Till they came to work in this organization. Owners matter is all. Ours is the one who flies to the Hamptons 390 times while the Steelers’ owner is in the building every day treating his employees like family. It’s not rocket surgery.

  • mgbode

    well then continue thinking about things in the worst possible light.

    “oh woe is me. no matter who we get to head our football organization we will not be great until we find an owner who is willing to bake cookies for the team and invite them for sleepovers.”

    sorry, I can’t do it. we have made mistakes. guess what, it sometimes takes time to figure things out and those mistakes are sometimes necessary. it took the Rooney family over 40 years to figure things out. I am going to place my faith in Holmgren not only because of what he has done in the past (superbowl appearance with every team he has been associated with), but because he is willing to go out and hire who he thinks are the best people underneath him.

    will it work out? who knows. you don’t and i don’t. but, it does noone any good to sit here and whine that the owner isn’t in the building to make people feel better.

  • humboldt

    @crobarred – “Would you rather have someone like Mike Brown who refuses to hire a GM and only hires family members? What about Al Davis?”

    This is another common trope in these debates that implies that our preferences for ownership be limited to the extremes (i.e. the hard-charging, micro-managing Al Davis or Mike Brown on one end, the effete and disinterested Lerner on the other). A much more productive debate would look at middle-ground owners like Polian or Kraft and identify attributes that Lerner would be well served to embrace.

    @Frowns – your point in the blog about desiring an owner who would run the franchise/public trust with integrity gets right at the heart of the issue. That’s why I can’t get on board w/ the people saying, ‘he hired Holmgren, so nothing else matters’.

    In my opinion, Lerner should still comport himself in a way that demonstrates an appreciation for the gravity of owning a public good that influences the lives of hundreds of thousands (if not millions) of people.

  • crobarred

    @mgbode Well said.

  • mgbode

    onto happier things. Vic Carucci’s first entry as a member of the Cleveland Browns:


  • Harv 21

    “…as they pushed the fast-forward button on ingratiating their top young talent at the MLB level.”

    “Ingratiate”? Ugh. Does Cousineau mean integrate? Bad stuff happens to writers who try to reach for the fancy words.

  • 5KMD

    A humbolt: “your point in the blog about desiring an owner who would run the franchise/public trust with integrity gets right at the heart of the issue.”

    Integrity? Wait, I thought we were talking about the rooneys and the steelers.

  • http://www.clevelandfrowns.com Cleveland Frowns

    Exactly, ‘bolt. Thanks.