May 16, 2012

The Saga of Tom Heckert, Eric Mangini and Jayme Mitchell

I decided to look up what Eric Mangini said about Jayme Mitchell when he was acquired in October last season before he sat on the bench for 12 straight weeks.  A lot of people are curious if the Browns knew that they were going to fire Mangini and switch defenses even that far back.  We’ll probably never know for sure, but here is what Mangini said about Jayme Mitchell during a press conference shortly after Mitchell was acquired.  My thoughts follow.

(Mangini On Jayme Mitchell)- “Jayme actually played in our first game last season from Minnesota, he had two or three pressures against us. I think he’s got good, natural pass rush ability. It’s a very different system from what he’s coming from to what we run but there’s a lot of things that we think he can help us with. I think he does a good job at the line of scrimmage in the running game and it’s a different pattern so we have to see how it fits with us. Just liked a lot of his natural ability that he brings to us. Now it’s a function of us being able to get him up to speed, get him in a role and him learning the system before we can play him.”

(Mangini On if they are bringing Mitchell in because so many players are injured)- “We are banged up at front but that wasn’t really the driving factor here. It was more an opportunity to get a young guy that we thought could develop in the system at this point in the season which you usually don’t have those opportunities and we wanted to do that and see how he could fit for us.”

(Mangini On if Mitchell has played a 3-4)- “I don’t think he’s got very much experience in it. He’s got kind of a body type where you could potentially use him as an end or stand him up and play him at outside linebacker, so there’s that flexibility that we could explore. It’s so early it’s hard to tell where he’ll end up.”

(Mangini On how the uncertainty in the defensive line’s health has affected the team)- “We’ve had to make adjustments in practices is one of the parts of it. Now the good news for young guys like Brian Sanford or Travis Ivey is they get some reps that they wouldn’t necessarily get. Brian Schaefering gets more reps, Derreck Robinson gets more reps. That helps them and it helps us because we get to see their development. Especially for those practice squad guys they get a chance to go make a case for themselves not just in the show team reps but in our reps…..”

So, regardless of conspiracy theories, one thing is clearly apparent.  The front office that traded for a guy in the middle of the year and the coach who couldn’t find his name on his depth chart were clearly not on the same page.  They were at least not enough of the same page in order to continue their working relationship.  I am sure this Mitchell ordeal is just one small example.

Mitchell’s mysterious quotes to Tony Grossi about how assistants used to “hint” that he should just be patient is probably more indicative of those coaches sensing they were on borrowed time more than any kind of actual knowledge that they were going to be gone.  We all kind of know when we are doing a good job, a bad job, or when our superiors aren’t pleased with our work.

We are talking about a deal for a guy who is outside the scheme that Mangini and Rob Ryan were running as the Browns sat 1-3 after beating Cincinnati.  Remember just how bleak everything felt at that time with the Browns dropping games that many had penciled in as potential wins before the season began.

Anyway, we’ll have to wait for Mangini’s tell-all book, I guess.

In the meantime, let’s hope Mitchell really was just stuck behind some studs in Minnesota and is up to the challenge of being the Browns starting end opposite Jabaal Sheard and flanking Ahtyba Rubin and the recently signed Phil Taylor.  This line may not have depth, but it would be nice if the opening game starters were worth the signatures on their contracts.

  • NJ

    Interesting. I doubt Mangini, even if there were issues, would make them known in a press conference. I think he sent his message by the way he used Mitchell.

    I’ve been surprised how many Mangini haters have been willing to white wash the Mitchell allegation as “no big deal”. He was a bad coach, on the way out, etc. etc. etc. This has to send up a big red flag to any free agents, offensive coordinators, assistant coaches, and so on thinking about coming to Cleveland. It would mean that Holmgren intentionally sabotaged his coach while setting up the team, our Browns, for failure on the field in 2010.

    Again, not saying people should take the comments as gospel, but man… if it’s true….

  • mgbode

    how crazy is it that those penciled in wins ended up being 2 10-win ballclubs in KC and TB?

    or that 10win TB team missed the playoffs by losing the 4th tiebreaker to the eventual superbowl champion Packers?

    just something to remember as we see the SOS arguments coming up this preseason (except when in reference to the Bengals. they are terrible :) and lost Joseph, Palmer and may not have Benson for that wk1 game)

  • mgbode

    @NJ – I disagree. Even if true, we’re talking about trading for a backup DE. not exactly season-sabatoging stuff. Heckert had an amazing draft(Haden/Ward), decent FA (Fujita alone would have been), and spectacular trade(HILLIS!). So, it’s not like they intentionally left the cupboards bare here.

  • NJ

    I’m not talking about the move, bringing in Mitchell; I’m talking about what Mitchell is claiming: that people in the organization implied to him that Mangini was already on his way out all of four weeks into the season.

  • Lyon

    NJ, we as fans saw that coming, so why is it so farfetched to think the coaches who actually live it everday could see it too?

    I don’t see this affecting anything FA wise or even FO-player wise in the future.

  • bobby

    Im sure there were plenty of disagreements behind the scenes with Mangini and Heckert. I would bet they never saw eye to eye and the assistant coaches could just see that and it just kept getting worse as the year went on.

    And heck, if we are talking leavin the cupboard bare… what did we do this offseason (thus far)?

  • Foghorn Leghorn

    Could you imagine how great it would be to have a young, dominant DL over the next several years with Sheard, Rubin, Taylor, and Mitchell?!? Unfortunately I dont think we will hit on all of them, but that would be an outstanding young core if they worked out for us.

  • http://tbdblogname.wordpress.com zim

    That would be a great, young DL if they stay healthy. CLE doesn’t have the depth that a lot of teams do and the way camp is going so far with injuries it is hard to believe that we can keep everyone healthy for a majority of the season.

  • NJ

    @5- Fans thinking it and people in the organization knowing it are two completely different things.

    Why did Holmgren even keep him on if four weeks into the season he was going to give up on him? It just blow my mind.

  • http://www.waitingfornextyear.com Craig Lyndall

    There is nothing to be gained from switching coaches mid-season unless you have the replacement on staff as a coordinator. That being said, there’s no telling exactly what happened. It is all speculation and nobody is likely to tell anyone even if they do know.

  • NJ

    Craig, I agree, but why didn’t we switch coaches post ’09?

    I don’t say any of this to defend Mangini. His record speaks from itself. But golly, there sure was a lot of odd and confusing events during his time here. It was like Lerner hired him during a night of binge drinking and then instantly regretted it.

    I imagine Mangini crawling through air ducts to get to his office like Costanza did when Play Now was trying to get him to quit.

  • Steve

    Just another sign that no matter who runs the Browns, they find a way to be comically inept. I’ll never give up on the Browns, but I just don’t see how people in this town can get so excited every fall. This Indians and Browns deserve to have their reputations switched.