May 16, 2012

Mike Holmgren’s Closing Statement Reaches Out to the Media

Mike Holmgren not only gave his state of the Browns, but also had a distinct message for the media yesterday.  Maybe he was trying to tell them that this time things are going to be different with regard to controversy and conspiracy.

There were actual conspiracies to be had when Eric Mangini and George Kokinis were here.  There were actual conspiracies going on when Phil Savage and Romeo Crennel were here.  There were scandals too.  There was a power struggle behind closed doors in Berea when Butch Davis was here.  For once, though, this is a group of guys are all going in the same direction.  They might be failing miserably, and it is up to the media to report that kind of stuff based on what happens on Sundays.  Maybe for once though, that is what we can focus on rather than all the other conspiracy stuff.

I know it feels like all Mike Holmgren all the time here lately, but I got cut off before I could hear Holmgren’s final statement, which was kind of a pep talk to the media.  I thought it was good, not because you can derive any intelligence from a pep talk, but because it does a good job of trying to throw a wet blanket on the unnecessary pyromania that has seemed to persist since the bye week.  I am really tired of any topic that isn’t related to actual football.  Hopefully this helps change the culture surrounding the Browns and their relationship with the media.  I’d prefer to talk about why it was dumb to not hire an offensive coordinator than talking about conspiracies relating to Peyton Hillis any day.

It seems to me that Mike Holmgren just raised the bar and threw the ball in their court, to overuse a couple of clichés.  Here is the statement I am talking about that ended yesterday’s presser.

Let me conclude with this and then you’ve got more important things to do. This is not rocket science. They’re not giant conspiracy theories. Those of you that have been at this a long time, it’s kind of cut and dry. You need good players who are coached well, you need a little luck with injuries and you can get this thing done. That’s where we’re headed. I believe that with all my heart. That’s where we’re headed and I’m not talking about me, I’m talking about the team. We have a good coach, we have a good coaching staff, we are getting better players, we’ve got young people that I think will be here a while. There’s a good feeling in the locker room. The business side of it is going okay. I think the owner’s feeling pretty good, which helps me.

What I would ask is that is to kind of spread the word a little. I think distractions are created and some of them are unnecessary. They just are. It’s not helping anything and I understand everyone has a job to do. I get all that. Some of it, the distraction causes us to be less than our best at times because you are dealing with young people, immature at times, and they kind of don’t understand the big picture. People can write that I’m leaving town Monday. It doesn’t bother me all that much. We joked about it today because I kind of get it. If you write that about our starting quarterback, ‘What do you mean I didn’t tell anybody that.’ They don’t get it. I know you want us to do well, I know everybody wants the team to come back to their former glory. You can help with the formula, I guess that’s what I’m saying. I appreciate it. Thanks for your time today.

No doubt that Holmgren is a master manipulator.  Do you think what he is saying is fair?

 

  • Joe

    Maybe the walrus can “coach up” his head coach on how to answer questions?! Maybe even some coaching for the PR department or whoever it is on how to get info to the press box, in game, when a prominent player has a hamstring injury???

  • NJ

    What’s funny about the media in all this is that they aren’t even asking the right questions. Like Craig said, they aren’t questioning our lack of OC, the incompetent playcalling, McCoy’s lack of accuracy, or what’s happening on the field. It’s all talk-show drama about Hillis. There’s plenty of legit issues to raise if you want to create some outrage.

    But this? It’s all so childish.

  • oribiasi

    He fielded softballs the whole time, but I didn’t expect anything too tough. Really, I would have been fine with no questions (if they were all going to be softballs anyway) and instead he could have just told us what was going in.

    The reason(s) why the local media won’t dare to ask serious questions might be very obvious; they just weren’t there to do so. They didn’t get an invite; they weren’t allowed in.

    I’d love a fan Q/A with Mike once a month during the year, that would be interesting. It would have to be live, though; otherwise, it’d be softball time again with filtered questions.

  • http://www.waitingfornextyear.com Craig Lyndall

    oribiasi, I am confused. Who wasn’t invited other than WFNY and other blogs? The PD, ABJ, WFAN, WKNR and a few others were all there that I know of…

  • Eric G

    I know the “pick apart every line” party is over, but that first line is gangsta! “Let me conclude with this and then you’ve got more important things to do.”

    That’s true, Walrus. They have more crap to smear. Keep it up…some of us still believe!

  • humboldt

    Mike Holmgren = Robert California from The Office?

  • Andrew Koestel

    Since when are they required to tell us anything? The Steelers don’t come out and tell their fans “don’t worry, everything is going to be ok.” You don’t hear the Patriots telling coddling their fans either.

    Everyone that is taking offense to the Seattle interview is being a baby. If you want to be coddled, look outside the realm of sports. This is football, and there’s no room for clingy, needy fans like Browns fans have apparently become.

    I’m embarrassed to be associated with this fan base after all of this the last few weeks. Hopefully there are other fans who aren’t babies that want good football and won’t bitch about pronouns and be a stage-5 clinger.

    Grow up, it’s football!

  • oribiasi

    @ Craig Lyndall: Who FROM the PD, KNR, et al were invited? What were they told they couldn’t ask? What were they allowed to say?

    You must know that these things are usually, for the most part, scripted shows; the questions are designed to be very softball-like and anyone who deviates from that will not be invited back. These guys are all part of the “press club” and they value their chummy-ness with the Walrus more than their affinity with the fans.

    Come on, do you think they asked any difficult questions? Where was the pregunta about no Offensive Coordinator, when everyone with two brain cells knew that that was necessary for this team, ESPECIALLY with no off-season, new coach, etc.? Where was the follow-up to his statement about Colt, i.e., “So, to be CLEAR, you are committed to him for the rest of the season, but then, will you actively pursue another option, especially if his performance does not improve past what we have already seen?”

    You know how this works; the boys club tosses softballs, he hits them out of the park (because he’s old enough/experienced enough to do so) and then he gives us some Robert California-esque talk and he’s on to “more important things.”

  • ben

    @oribiasi: next you’re going to tell us that the moon landing was faked.

  • http://www.waitingfornextyear.com Craig Lyndall

    @oribiasi, I can guarantee you 100% that the media were not told what they could and could not ask. If you don’t think they asked good questions, that’s fine, but blame them. Terry Pluto asked a question and then criticized them for not having an offensive coordinator right now in today’s paper…

    And what else could you possibly want to know about Colt McCoy? The Browns desperately want him to succeed so they don’t have to change quarterbacks, but they will not be afraid to keep changing QBs every season until they find the right one.

    Seems pretty straight-forward to me.

  • oribiasi

    @ Andrew Koestel: The reason you don’t see the Steelers or Patriots having to explain anything to their fans is simple: there is no need. They are winners; they draft extremely well, they sign free agents that can help their team (*cough*BrandonLloyd*cough), they keep players that are universally acknowledged as play-makers (*cough*PeytonHillis*cough), and they don’t b.s. around with first-year coaches having both roles.

    We are their customers, really; the fans buy their tickets, eat their concessions, buy their gear. If Nike made a crap shoe and you bought it and it broke in half on day two of ownership, I am hoping you’d be, to use your charming expression, “grown up” enough to ask why and to request your money back or a suitable replacement.

    Interestingly, what you’re suggesting is not to be grown up; you want us to just accept what we are told and the garbage we see on the field week in/out because that’s what adults do you in your mind.

    In my mind, that’s what a child does, because he/she doesn’t know any better or doesn’t have the stones/whatever to speak up when something is wrong.

    So, please, don’t tell me it is wrong to ask questions or to complain if something is wrong.

  • oribiasi

    @ Craig: Yeah, and why do you think Terry didn’t dare mention his criticism to Uncle Mike?

    Also, I am blaming them, of course. If they value their little insider perks for being nicey-nice to Mike and the gang in public, then so be it. It’s just sad; there are so many legit questions they could have asked and didn’t that it should make any self-respecting Browns fan sick.

    When he said that Pat is doing a great job, the entire room should have laughed and then played the fake fieldgoal and the Bengals snafu on their smartphones.

  • christopher

    THE MOON LANDING WAS FAKED???? QUICK ALERT THE MEDIA! THAT’S A STORY WORTH PRINTING FOR SURE!!!!!!!

  • NJ

    @7 – Steelers have six rings and the Patriots have three. They also have five other SB visits between them.

    Look, I get that the criticism of Holmgren can get out of hand, but I just don’t see how anybody can look at what has transpired since his arrival and feel good about it. I’ll give you Heckert and his drafts. Outside of that, it seems like every issue that has arised was handled poorly.

    Bleh. I find it funny that people use the term “believe” in regards to Holmgren because it seriously seems to be a matter of faith at this point. If you’re a member of the flock, you don’t understand the criticisms. If you aren’t, you don’t understand the support.

  • http://www.waitingfornextyear.com Craig Lyndall

    @NJ I think criticisms are justified. I said from minute one that I was wary of not having an offensive coordinator and having Shurmur calling his own plays.

    What I have ZERO patience for is hyper-analyzing Holmgren’s use of certain pronouns on a radio interview or the incessant attempts by the media to paint the Peyton Hillis situation as anything other than a common contractual impasse.

  • Mark

    I completely agree with Andrew. This stuff I was hearing on the radio was an absolute farce.

    All in all, I’m glad Mike Holmgren came around and quelled all the stupid stuff flying around. It’s easy to claim he’s a “master manipulator” but I think everything he said made a lot of sense. Let’s give this some time and not jump to conclusions yet. Everyone should’ve known this team was not practicing all offseason and wouldn’t be as prepared as they should be.

    Who really cares about the conspiracies and him saying “they.” Holmgren is the best executive we’ve had here since the franchise came back, and I think that he deserves the benefit of the doubt. Just by hiring Tom Heckert, he has elevated this franchise to a level never touched by a previous regime. I think Heckert is the best talent evaluator we’ve had in Cleveland in a long, long time.

    It’s fair to criticize Shurmur for terrible playcalling and not hiring an OC was a definite mistake. I give Holmgren credit for admitting that. These are criticisms I can live with, but like Craig said, I hate hearing about stupid things that promote Cleveland’s insecurities. I am a Northeast Ohioan born and raised, and I don’t have this woe-is-me attitude that permeates throughout the media and with the fanbase. Let’s get past that.

    Last point: I’m really tired of players complaining about getting the ball. I agree that Shurmur is struggling and they SHOULD in fact get the ball, but I think that someone with no real pedigree like Evan Moore should NOT complain every week. These guys are not proven enough to justify this. With more hardline coaches, comments like this might get you cut – which would be stupid but the point is it needs to stop.

  • -bobby-

    Few things- oribiasi, you kind of sound like Cartman to me. I felt that should be shared.

    Second, from experience being in NE, the Pats dont get any slack. They try to ask the same thing 20 times to get an answer up here. Now the pressers are soft, but they get these guys in 1-on-1 interviews. Bill is on a weekly appearance on a sports talk show here. To switch up sports, the Red sox owners have all been in interviews here. They are going after everyone and anyone about this collapse they had. One owner came into a radio station unnanounced after hearing what was being said. And they straight asked the guy about the beer and chicken and all the other nonsense that came out. That would never happen in cleveland (not a shot a Lerner, or any owner but no FO, guy or anyone would just go into a radio show, and if they did no host would drill them like needs be done.) Its almost embarrassing the comparison, because we have some of the most passionate fans up on any level around, but we feel like the players, the staff, whoever are so much better that we cant ask anything from them. We demand things amoungst fans, but theres no one to stand up and ask the questions that many are asking. Thats the problem here, and thats my Cleveland fans dont get respect. Its like another commenter said, we act like kids (he used babies) crying to get our way but we never man up and demand better, or go find the right answer. We get stuck in the hs drama of off the field crap that doesnt lead to answers.

  • christopher

    “I just don’t see how anybody can look at what has transpired since his arrival and feel good about it. I’ll give you Heckert and his drafts.”

    Hilarious.

  • NJ

    Touche, salesman.

  • Greg

    As a west coast Browns fan without DirecTV, I suppose that was he is saying is “fair”, but critiquing the team is also fair. If you are transparent with your players and coaches, they should be able to shrug off any misleading reports in the media (if any exist).

    And like others said, I don’t why there has been so much emphasis on Hillis when it seems (again, from my distant vantage point where all the non-Internet information is through a national lens) like the issues should be whether the personnel (esp. McCoy) and/or the system (West Coast offense, losing Rob Ryan as DC, etc.) are good fits.

    But what do I know. Not much, except that I’m sick of the Steelers and I want to see the Browns win a Super Bowl.

  • oribiasi

    @ -bobby-: I’m not really sure what you’re talking about but personal insults are not very useful to this discussion. What exactly would you suggest would be a better way of “manning up” then expressing our frustrations? What manly things do you do when your teams make bonehead decisions? Are we not (am I not) demanding improvements/changes?

    So, if you’re ever in town and out of New England, let’s meet, because I’d love to share some things with you.

    I am passionate Browns fan and I know in my gut when something isn’t right with this team. I am getting that feeling more and more each week.

  • -bobby-

    oribiasi- I wasnt trying to personally insult anyone and sorry if you took it that way. The Cartman reference was to an episode where he demands people ask more questions out of people in charge, etc etc… sorta like you were doing… i just thought it was sorta funny, no harm intended.

    The “manning up” was for media/talk show hosts who complain and nit pick the tiniest things but will never ask the people in charge/ capable of making changes those questions. Like I said, the owner from the Sawx who went on the equivalent to “the Fan” in cleveland (just the sister station in beantown) got grilled and they want answers. Do you think theres anyone in position in the cleveland media that would do that for us (fans)?

  • oribiasi

    @ -bobby-, Alright, no harm, no foul.

    As to your question, I wish I had an answer. I suggested earlier that it might be interesting to have real fans do a once per month Q/A with Holmgren, etc. I really doubt any serious sports reporter would risk his relationship with the Browns to ask any serious questions or hardball questions. Most of the well-known reporters who would go to a Browns press conference are veterans of the industry and wouldn’t risk their ability to go to conferences like that going forward for just a few hard-hitting questions.

    Ha, if anyone isn’t manning up, it’s those reporters.

  • mgbode

    “What manly things do you do when your teams make bonehead decisions?”

    I think we should make this a contest :)

    The Indians just signed Russell Branyan (again) – time to go chop wood!

    The Browns just traded for OL who gets hurt immediately – time to go build a deck!

    The Cavs re-sign Anthony Parker – no shaving until he is off the team!

  • NJ

    @24- I start drinking Bud Light. Hey, marketing works.

  • mgbode

    @25 – apparently not. Miller Lite is the one running ads right now that say you are unmanly to drink another ‘light’ beer :)

  • NJ

    Doh! Heh. Guess when the Indians sign absolutely nobody this offseason, instead of going to the bar, I’ll have to go fight a pack of wild dogs.

  • mgbode

    while wearing a vest made of meat!

  • Nick

    The Cleveland sports media is not involved in some conspiracy to lob softballs at Holmgren, they are just incompetent. That’s why they ask questions that are on the right topic (e.g. Colt’s inaccuracy) but phrase it in the dumbest, most non-football relevant way possible. “Is Colt missing throws affecting his confidence??” Jesus not everything is about “confidence” you morons.

    What’s particularly awesome is that Holmgren’s comments about the media were a substantial part of his message the other day, and we haven’t heard a peep about those comments reported from the media. Great job guys!!! Way to take responsibility for the things you write and to report on the team ethically and accurately, instead of just cherry picking stories that will get you hits. Hey BTW I hear Peyton’s hamstring is not really hurt and he’s just angling for a new contract…

    Thank god for sites like WFNY.