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November 17, 2011Former Brown Says Mangini “was a bad head coach.”
November 18, 2011While We’re Waiting serves as the early morning gathering of WFNY-esque information for your viewing pleasure. Have something you think we should see? Send it to our tips email at tips@waitingfornextyear.com.
“Never before have they played a game like this, under anything resembling these circumstances, but the game will go on Saturday. It will be Senior Day in Ohio Stadium. It will be Penn State’s first road game since the Jerry Sandusky scandal broke and first road game without Joe Paterno as head coach since the team traveled to such games by train. There will be a game, one Penn State needs to win in its chase for the Leaders Division title. Penn State having enough offense to go to Wisconsin next week and win again would be more than a minor miracle, but the Lions controls their own destiny in regards to playing in the first Big Ten title game.” [Jackson/FSO]
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Nate Jackson- “[Eric] Mangini was a bad head coach. He couldn’t reconcile his scientific approach to the game with the real-time lack of science that was needed to play it. He took it too far and lost his team.’ [Scene Magazine]
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“We like the news coming out of Major League Baseball today, with the Houston Astros shifting to the AL West and the addition of another wild card team in each league. If the second wild card had been in place in 2000 and 2005, the Indians would have grabbed a playoff spot, so anything that opens another avenue for the Tribe to make the postseason is always going to be welcomed in these parts. Plus a one-game playoff between the wild card teams will give the game the feeling of an NFL playoff game.” [Red Right 88]
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In the category of strange news, Baron Davis is making a documentary on what? [Stepien Rules]
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Finally, the Browns are 0-9 on coin tosses so far this year. We can’t even do that right. [Dawgs by Nature]
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Eric Mangini is clearly a smart guy and, from all indications, a decent person. But he is a case study in how a hyper-rational approach doesn’t work in any field (including sports blogging…here’s looking at you Craig, haha j/k).
Frowns, if you’re out there in the comment section ether, are you planning to refute Nate Jackson’s point?
For me, Mangini’s greatest shortcoming was that he wasn’t a good person. People just don’t like him. It’s funny to watch him on ESPN trying to reshape his image and making jokes instead of fining people for taking a bottle of water.
It might help our coin flip average on the road if the Browns stopped calling “edge.”
Nate Jackson was on the roster for (maybe) an entire week and he figured all of this out? Sounds more like sour grapes because he couldn’t hack it.
The funny part here is that it was clearly obvious that Mangini hadn’t lost the team, and that they played hard for him all year. I’d love to see the evidence that Jackson can present pointing to the contrary.
I have a full article on the Mangini quote at 10 AM…
Just for the record, the hyper-analyzing is good during the week and perfect for blogging, but really bad on Sundays. Based on my past experiences competing as an athlete and in other competitive situations, I am confident that I wouldn’t be guilty of not making decisive moves in the moment.
I dont necessarily believe guys were “visibly shaken” or anything like that, but this most certainly points to how Mangini wanted mentally tough and strong players. I dont really know why a player need to know the specific stats per say (like if Mangini knows isnt that good enough). I think things like that is what Mangini will need to learn to back off a bit and let the players worry more about the game. Also, stats are good to have and all that, but at some points in he game you gotta shoot for the moon. I wonder if certain stats would make Mangini less agressive (though he is/was much more agressive then we’ve seen in Pat… not saying much).
Cleveland Browns captains,
Remember: Tails never fails.
You’re very welcome.
(not sure why I opted to put that in haiku form…)
@JNeids – because you are awesome. (note: not sarcastic, the haiku format made me smile)
@humbolt, I strongly disagree here (as apparently other people do)
There is nothing wrong with Mangini being stats based, the problem is forcing that on other players. I saw a good article once with the insight “learn how to think off the field, so you don’t have to think on the field”. Mangini clearly missed the translation to the second part.
Wow…someone have the odds on losing 9 straight coin flips!
Heads Or Tails? “Or!”
Lose nine straight coin flips? Wonder what the odds are of winning or losing the next flip? 50%. (I know that wasn’t the question asked)
“Edge”….I found that to be hilarious. Thanks Cleave.