May 18, 2013

Josh Cribbs’ Future With the Browns

Don’t look now, but one of the signature players for the Cleveland Browns over the last few years is about to enter a contract year in 2012.  It sure says a lot about the Browns that Cribbs – a special teams phenom – has been a signature player for fans of this team over the years.  No disrespect to Josh Cribbs, of course.  He earned his stripes helping the team beat Pittsburgh with one of the most phenomenal individual days in most living Browns fans’ memories.  He ran for 87 yards and returned punts and kicks like a man absolutely possessed.  As has been the case for so long with Josh Cribbs in Cleveland, he summed it up pretty well too.  On beating Pittsburgh that fateful day in 2009…

”It means everything,” Browns do-it-all wide receiver Josh Cribbs said. ”There are a lot of Steelers fans around the city so I hope people go to work and kick those Steelers fans.”

The striking reality is that that game was so long ago that Brady Quinn shared space in the box score.  For the Browns it was a meaningless game other than a barely-there rivalry and the satisfaction of knocking the Steelers out of playoff contention.

Since that time, Josh Cribbs has suffered through an injury plagued season last year.  This year, although mostly healthy and even as he has led the team in receiving touchdowns he has been largely frustrated trying to be a bigger part of the team.  His frustrations – while understandable – have served as a distraction at least to some fans if not in the locker room.  When he spoke of a talent gap he was pretty well rebuked a week later by Joe Thomas.  That’s the same Joe Thomas that signed a 7-year deal in the pre-season worth as much as $84 million with $44 million guaranteed.

It wasn’t a nasty rebuke and it didn’t lead me to believe that there is some underlying problem between Joe Thomas and Josh Cribbs.  Even Pat Shurmur has stated that he has no problems with Josh wanting to win and be a part of that process.  Nobody’s really ever been able to doubt Josh Cribbs’ desire, either.  It would be pretty difficult to question a guy who found his way back onto the field after dislocating most of the toes on one of his feet last season.

Sometimes desire isn’t enough, though.  Josh Cribbs has an accomplished NFL career, but there is little doubt that the violence involved with returning kicks has taken a toll.  Maybe it was just my eyes, but it seemed that (when he was holding onto the ball) Jordan Norwood had an extra hop in his step returning punts against the Steelers last Thursday. While I hated the sight for fear a year ago, I remember thinking, “Wow. Joe Haden looks fast returning kickoffs.”

Even beyond the anecdotal evidence.  Cribbs has worked his tail off to try and become a receiver that this team needs so desperately to middling results. Cribbs has been upset with the number of targets he has received this season, but there is no doubt he has had plenty of opportunity to be on the field as a wideout.  The Browns still struggle in the passing game and even as guys like Brian Robiskie have been pushed out the door, Cribbs hasn’t been able to fill the void as guys like Greg Little and Jordan Norwood start to sneak up in the box score.

I claimed in pre-season that I thought Cribbs had a chance to keep getting better as a receiver.  I thought his ability to get open on broken plays would help immensely.  He does have that ability as well as a bit of vertical ability, but it has made little difference in the overall scheme of things.  Cribbs is currently 106th in receptions and 100th in yardage across the entire league.  Look, I know it isn’t all his fault either.  This is a team game and the Browns are 22nd in the league in passing yardage.  All those things given, I don’t know anyone that wouldn’t consider taking a top-flight receiver in this year’s draft because of what Cribbs has shown us.

I don’t mean to sound so negative on Josh Cribbs, because I really do love all that he has done for the Browns.  He has been an advocate to the fans and the fans to him, most notably in his successful attempt at getting a new contract.  He has been one of the greatest returners in NFL history and did it in a Browns uniform.  That is worth a lot to me.  He gave us a win over the Steelers and suggested we kick the Steelers fans among us.  That’s all the more reason why it is difficult to see a potential end in sight.

Guys who rely on explosiveness don’t tend to get that back in their late 20s though, ya know?  Hopefully Josh has one more great year for himself and for the fans.  Who knows?  Maybe he can continue to contribute on special teams for one more contract cycle on his way to retirement.  It’s just hard to imagine, when I see a guy who wants to contribute to a winner so much, that this won’t turn out to be a mismatch of expectations if and when the next round of contract talks start.

And that’s assuming he even makes it through Browns training camp next season.  This business of the NFL is a tough one and it isn’t outside the realm of possibility for pretty much any player any year after his 25th birthday.  I won’t be hoping to see it, but I kind of feel as if I need to prepare myself for it.  This version of the NFL puts a temporary hold on nostalgia as the ends of players careers often get messy.  Josh Cribbs isn’t Brett Favre or Emmitt Smith, but you get my point.

Here’s hoping it turns out well, Josh Cribbs remains a part of the Browns until retirement and remains a fixture in this community.  That would be the best for him and the fans.

  • Boomhauertjs

    The Browns screwed up by not making Cribbs a third-down back early in his career. The transition would’ve been easier than WR.

  • ctowndawgpound

    I believe that is frustration is more due to the new kickoff rules. It greatly decreases his ability to get the good chunk of yardage he normally got while the coverage team was still headed down to cover. Now its hard to even get a return with all the touchbacks! Josh is one of my all time favorite Browns due to hustle and intensity. Hope he has a few more years of productiveness in him

  • Lyon

    agree Boom, he could’ve been a lot more useful that way.

    I love the guy, but am dreading all the talk next year about his future contract, b/c you know it will come up & he doesn’t shy away from the microphones. Let’s just hope he starts to produce so he actually has a reason to Pay Da Man

  • Harv 21

    I’m in the minority here, but I think his impact on individual games has weakened by moving him to offense. They did it because of our dearth of playmakers in particular and horrible offense in general, not because he was an NFL-caliber offensive player. Idea was “get Josh the ball in space just like on returns.” It has worked only occasionally, like on jump balls or where he needs a first down and his desire and strength take over. But there’s been no impact like they wanted; linebackers are not pointing at him so he’s accounted for on the field. That special Cribbs/Wallace formation produced virtually nothing last year.

    As a receiver his pattern-running has gone from bad to meh. Maybe he would have translated better as a third down back, taking screens and trying to break one. Maybe.

    Craig, I agree with your eye about his kickoff speed. We saw that last year and said was probably slowed by injuries. This year he started the year looking somewhat faster but has slowed a lot again, at least to my eyes. The worst part is he hasn’t really come close to breaking one for a lot of weeks. Every the network guys intone “the always-dangerous Josh Cribbs is set to return.” Not really any more. Now the only place he excels is on the coverage teams.

  • Tron

    Man, comment #1 beat me to the punch. Josh should have been converted to RB over WR. As evident by his KSU QB career, Josh was always good at running out of the backfield. It would have been really fun to see him on a creative team like the patriots or something that could have found a better way to utilize his talents. It’s unfortunate that Cribbs had to fall victim to the career killing machine that is Cleveland sports. He’s been a great player for us, but i doubt they give him any type of extension because as far as covering kickoffs go, his value has dramatically decreased, and he never turned into that open space threat WR they wanted him to be.

  • jimkanicki

    if he were moved to defense, he have been an all-pro safety for two years now.

    i get the feeling that he’s shooting his way out of town. not in a ‘i need to get paid somewhere else’ way. more in a ‘this management is clueless and i just dont care about keeping them happy anymore’ way.

    too bad. he’s the best football player browns have had in expansion era. probably the best since clay matthews.

  • MrCleaveland

    A smart coach — a clever, inventive, think-outside-the-box coach — would find ways to take advantage of Josh’s talents on offense. It seems to me that in ’10, he always got the first down running out of the wildcat, frequently picking up 8 yards a crack. And he would have been even better if Brian The Bully Daboll had let him throw it once a game.

    But we apparently don’t have anyone like that. We have a drone who is in love with his glorious system and will run the same stuff over and over, regardless of the fact that it’s not working.

    I’m sick of “system” coaches. The goal of football is not to perfect your beloved system, the goal is to win games. And a coach should do whatever it takes irrespective of some system.

  • jimkanicki

    mr. c: regarding ‘system’ coaches –> 100% agree.

    there’s a post from BH (link below) that gets it as right as i’ve seen. here’s a snip:

    There’s a disease permeating football, .. “Positional Idealism.” A sprawling collection of draftniks and dullards have unwittingly conspired with bloggers and beat-writers to reduce the myriad approaches and participants in one of the world’s most complex sports to a meaningless construct of boiler-plate tactics and player archetypes… The “Elite Quarterback,” The “True Left Tackle,” The “Shutdown Corner,” and on and on… And here’s the punchline: It hasn’t changed a thing about the game itself – only how it’s discussed.

    http://www.barkinghard.com/forums/154505-post76.html

  • mgbode

    his reverse against Pitt showed that he still has good vision running with the football.

    i agree with others that his time at WR seems to have taken away some of his value elsewhere. too bad as he’s such a fun player to root for on the team. i hope we continue to find ways to get him involved, but i also hope that the need to put him at WR lessens as we get more talent.

  • Browndawg

    You dont think his lack of “production” in the kick return game this year has anything to do with the loss of their ST coach or other key players on the return team? He cant do it alone.

  • Harv 21

    @jimkanicki: think you’re right, of all the regular positions Josh could have successfully picked up and had an impact at the NFL level, safety might have been it. Loves to fly to the ball and hit, speed to cover, correct body type. Too late now.

  • C-Bus Kevin

    Count me in the camp of fans that are disappointed that Josh hasn’t been used more creatively. He could be such a wild card if they let him throw or line up at RB (not wildcat).

    Ideally, you want a defense to look at Cribbs lined up on the field and wonder, “what’s he doing on his play?” I could even see them running him in motion behind the play like he Navy option…you know, where they do it on every play to keep the possibility of a pitch in the linebackers minds?

    But alas…no.

  • MrCleaveland

    @8 Good excerpt, Jim. I’ll read the entire post in a bit.

    BTW, love the new avatar.

  • oribiasi

    @ MrCleaveland: Well said. Very true and very accurate.

  • Russ

    I believe Josh will always be with the Browns in some capacity. He’ll still be relevant on special teams going forward, but probably not as a returner. I also doubt we’ll see much of him as WR next season, although I could be wrong.

  • natedawg

    Liking Cribbs less and less each day… Said this recently

    WR Josh Cribbs, who played with Harrison at Kent State, doesn’t believe his former teammate is a dirty player. “I feel like he’s trying to put people out of the game,” Cribbs said. “As a linebacker, that’s what his job is. That’s how he’s been in college, he tried to put me out of the game when I was on his team, with a red jersey on. That’s why he’s been so successful in this league. That’s also why he’s been highly fined in this league as well, but also successful.”

    Never defend the Steelers for anything. Even if your brother is on the team. If you can’t say something bad, don’t say anything at all applies to the steelers.

  • pepe

    Can you imagine how dangerous and versatile Cribbs is going to be in Bill Belichick’s offense next year?

    Can you imagine the running lanes Peyton Hillis is going to have in John Fox’s offense?

  • Big Z

    This team is in absolutely no position to get rid of talent, IMO Josh is their best receiver.

    That being said, since they saw fit to run Hillis out of town and allow Vickers to walk in free agency I’m sure they’ll bid Josh adieu. I’ll hate them for that, especially since none of our previous head coaches ever properly involved him in the offense and we never really got to see his true potential. “We’ve designed a new wrinkle in our offense for Josh”… yeah right.

  • BrownsFanBrad

    I’m afraid you are right, Craig. The time has probably come for the Browns to move on w/o Josh. There were times when his returns (and even his kick coverage) were the only reasons I watched the Browns, but I don’t know how much value he really brings to the team any more. It’s tough to do, but both Pittsburgh and Baltimore are successful because they know when to cut guys loose (usually before that 3rd contract).