For the Browns, Please Let it Be Matt Flynn

yes, absoluetly

finally a voice of reason

After some time in the NFL you stop becoming what you were drafted as and you start to become judged more by your play on the field in pre-season and post. Valuation of Flynn has changed because of his performance against NFL players over the last few years. So too did Brian Brohm’s performance change his valuation for the worse. The Packers kept Flynn over Brohm (their own 2nd rd pick and at one time considered a potential #1 overall) because he was a better NFL player in their eyes. Draft status is not a be-all end-all criteria for how good a player is, and should be weighted less the longer a player has been in the pros.

McCoy I think is fine. Flynn I think would be fine. He was underrated at LSU imo. In any case though the logic that McCoy is better than Flynn because he was drafted in a higher round is absolute BS, as is the argument that RGIII by being a higher pick will perform better than Flynn.

You’re TRYING to draw a comparison between Matt Flynn and Tom Brady? And I’m the one who doesn’t know anything about football…

Tell me then, o’ wise one, how exactly does the great Tom Brady compare to Matt Flynn? Bestow upon me your football expertise. BTW, Tom Brady is an American hero… don’t hate.

“It’s a QB driven league”… and I’m captain obvious… If that’s the case, tell me why you’d rather have a 7th round QB drafted to be a backup with 2 years and 2 starts (1 because they rested Rodgers) over a Heisman-winning top-5 pick with outstanding accuracy, intelligence, arm-strength, speed, and toughness… o’ wise one.  

“I personally don’t think it is ever worth drafting in the top 10 ever”
“In the last 10 years i don’t ever remember there being 2 qb prospects that is worth taking in the first couple of picks”

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i never said matt flynn and tom brady should be compared but try to spin this anyway so you don’t look bad. What I said is you don’t know if a guy is good or bad because what round he came in. If you are so great at evaluating talent why don’t you try to be a scout.(not for cleveland though because we are turning corner now and getting rid of bad scouts.) I heard pittsburgh is hiring and really the best way for you to help cleveland is going to work for pittsburgh. My point is in any spewing rhetoric i have uttered that cleveland needs to start going after aggressively the most important part of the team which is a quarterback. I hope we get either peyton manning(if healthy) in trade and then we draft rg3 also. Grab matt flynn if you can get him for less than 6 million and draft rg3 if you can. Don’t just assume we will get rg3 in draft because you never know what will happen. I hope they go over the top with getting quarterbacks because I would rather have a mentality of having too many then none in the last 20 years. If you think that i was comparing tom brady and matt flynn talent level wise then i have some nice ocean front property in montana for sale.

so you flipped the order of 2 sentences of my comment to try to make yourself feel better. you are at rock bottom quickly. If you read thoroughly that the only time it is worth drafting in the top 10 is if there is a quarterback worth taking. In the last 10 years or so there has been no one worth taking in the top 10. If you look at the history of the nfl in the last 15 years or so anybody who drafts in the top 10 does not make the playoffs for the most part because the way the salary structure was with high draft picks.

“I personally don’t think it is ever worth drafting in the top 10 ever
unless there is an amazing prospect and if you can’t see luck and rg3
are worth this chance your crazy.”

i wrote this a sentence down too after you flipped them

how many times are you going to read 1 sentence and not read the rest of the comment.

I like your idea of Flynn-Richardson-WR it would automatically upgrade the offense before anyone every stepped onto the field.  The only thing is each of those has ?s especially Richardson.  The positive is even if they are wrong on Flynn at least it’ll only cost $$$ and not another high draft pick.  I also agree about the coaching staff(s) and this is one of the main reasons I’m not a proponent of drafting Griffin. 

As far as Cleveland being a stupid sports town I’d disagree there the problem as I see it is that they are blind to a fault.  They’ll bleed orange and brown while driving right off the tracks with the trainwreck of a team.  When others try to point out or express differing opinions they get shouted down.  But this isn’t any different then other cities. 

i disagree with your analogy on rg3 and troy smith but agree with your comment in general. In order for us to make the #4 pick effective if we don’t pick quarterback is only if we get matt flynn or even a healthy playing peyton manning. If troy smith were way faster had a more accurate arm  and was able to get the ball out of his hand twice as fast then he is like rg3. Look at the tape again and see that rg3 throwing 35 yards and deeper was extremely accurate. More importantly then anything is rg3′s background. Being from a military family does mean something. If you are going to invest this much time and money in someone and you know they have great character to match with amazing athletic ability you have to take this chance. His only down side is durability. Hopefully whether we get rg3 or not cleveland will address the right tackle position because rg3 is not that big.

I’m for McCoy being released!

Another trade down, get more picks, fantasy football scenario, instead of going and get the player all the experts say could be a franchise guy. I don’t believe after the workouts and combine, they will not be able to pass on Robert Griffin III.

Bro, I’ve been touting RG3 on these threads for the past 2 months, as well as this thread, check the first comment.

I read your entire post, but I chose those two sentance because I thought Cam Newton, Sam Bradford, and Eli Manning (and Mike Vick based on how you calculate 10 years) were WELL worth the #1 pick let-alone a top-10 selection. You’re also essentially saying you wouldn’t have wanted Phillip Rivers or Matt Ryan as the Browns’ QB. IMO, your post pretty much makes you illegitimate in any QB conversation. As a matter of fact, I don’t really even know why you’re trying to “let me have it”, as it seems we both really like RG3… whatevaz. 

By the way, don’t assume Flynn is going to Miami just because his old O Coordinator went there. Matt Moore played solid last year. IMO, Flynn would have to compete with him for the starting job.

I don’t think he’d beat-out Moore for the starting job.

first i said around 10 years not exactly. eli came out in 2004 so like i said before there has not been a good quarterback draft in around 10 years. If you thought cam newton was worth the no 1 pick and not rg3 then i am confused. cam newton ran a more basic if not the same offense was less accurate and is not as fast. Sam Bradford has not shown anything yet but st louis had to take him because he scored so high on that mental test they give for qb’s in draft. So your point has actually made my point even more so thanks for arguing. Mike vick came out before eli. And if you read my comment fully i have wrote time and time again that the only position worth taking early in draft is the quarterback. I would be ecstatic with either rivers(who came out in the eli draft in 2004) or ryan. I don’t know if you have an inability to comprehend writing in the english language but i have wrote every comment about needing a franchise quarterback. Now you just mix and match things i say to some how try to make sense of your rhetoric. By the way if someone says around 10 years they don’t mean down to the minute they normally are generalizing like saying around a certain period of time. 

if we were one QB away I could see your argument Bobby but we’re not.

Yeah, as you can tell there’s been a drought of Browns news lately… oh yeah, it’s the Playoffs!