May 16, 2012

Report: Tony Grossi Out as Browns Beat Reporter

Scene Magazine’s Vince Grzegorek has reported that The Plain Dealer has removed Tony Grossi from the Cleveland Browns beat. Grossi “accidentally tweeted” last week calling Browns owner Randy Lerner “a pathetic figure, the most irrelevant billionaire in the world”.

Vince writes-

“He was in hot water with his editors and bosses at the PD over the inadvertent tweet, which displayed a huge bias — hatred even — toward the Browns’ owner. There was an obvious question whether he could objectively continue to cover the beat, the answer to which came when the Plain Dealer weighed in today with the move.”

Many Cleveland sports fans on twitter and facebook (and in our comment section) have been calling for Grossi’s removal for years, and aren’t very sympathetic to his dismissal today. There has been no official word from the PD on the disciplinary action or any potential replacements. (For full disclosure, WFNY has a partnership with the PD’s online home, Cleveland.com.)

[Related: the interview that started Grossi's twitter mess]

  • Jack

    Excellent news. Really unfortunate when people suck at their jobs. 

  • 6thcity

    Finally. He’ll make a great op-ed writer for the suburban times

  • Shamrock

    They did him a favor anyone would be bitter after covering the Browns for so long.  Maybe Holmgren gave the PD a list of suitable candidates that can whistle his tune, whatever it might be.

  • Anonymous

    didn’t say he was fired though.  perhaps he’ll be the beat reporter for the Canton Charge at a reduced rate?

    i will always be happy that Grossi played a big part of keeping Art Modell out of the Football HOF (according to Peter King), but outside of that, well, I won’t go there.

  • Anonymous

    YES!  GTFO Tony Grossi!  It’s about time.

  • TOJ

    LOL.

    Regards,
    Eric Mangini

  • http://twitter.com/GreatestHurley Jason Hurley

    Does Holmgren share an agent with any beat writers?

  • Harv 21

    Don’t know the guy but feel awful for anyone that loses their job. 

    Maybe he got the job when he was too young, stayed there too long and hubris let him make his fatal mistake. There really hasn’t been any energy or urgency to his reporting or opinions for a long time. Just seemed to go through the motions. Still, sad for him and his family. 

    Do look forward to the PD hiring a knowledgeable, hard-working replacement who can write thoughts in a compelling and enjoyable manner. Would love a football version of the type of job Windhorst did with the Cavs. There are hundreds of such candidates around the country and relatively few such positions, so hard to believe the PD can mess this up.

  • Johnwoods

    Like Harv21, I don’t like to see anyone lose their job.

    It was not my decision to fire or reassign him though…

    If the PD hires from within, I would vote for Bill Lubinger.

  • Mark Skog

    I couldn’t be happier. I’ve been one of many commenters (thinking of you jim kanicki) to call for his ouster. His disdain for his readers was unbelievable.

    I’m very curious to see where the PDs coverage of the Browns goes from here. I know Grossi was bad at his job so it will be interesting to see what the PDs coverage can develop into. I guess what I’m saying is how much difference can a good beat writer make? I think a lot.

  • Anonymous

    Important to remember that Grossi was just taken off the Browns beat, it doesn’t mean he was fired.

    The PD is still a Newspaper Guild (union) paper and it is extremely hard to fire someone, especially someone that has been with the paper since 1984.

    It’s more likely that he will be reassigned to another beat. It’s also possible this is just a suspension, not a permanent removal, and he will be back covering the team in time for training camp. It happened before to him in 1991 (that one wasn’t his fault, however).

  • Kevin

    He’s been crass and rude to his readership for years. I feel bad that he had to learn this lesson the hard way, but I won’t miss his attitude one bit.

  • Dustin Hauser

    Now if only they can get rid of Hoynes next.

  • Edouard Weevil

    At least they have Mary Kay Cabot to provide some experience and continuity during this little ordeal.

    But it’s very difficult to replace a veteran like Grossi. For all the criticisms, he really wasn’t bad. He was MKC’s foil. The beat, with MKC and Grossi, actually provided both sides to each story.

    Let’s hope the Browns beat doesn’t suffer as much as the Cavs beat, which has yet to find its footing since a certain large fellow bolted for the big network.

  • BrownsFanBrad

    I think Jim Ingraham of the Morning Journal would be a good choice.

  • Harv 21

    why do you say the old incident wasn’t his fault? As I recall: he claimed in a story to have tried to get a response on something from Modell, when Modell was available and close by and Grossi in fact never even made the attempt. Modell went nuts at the insinuation that he was unresponsive and Grossi was pulled off regular beat writing duty for the remainder of the season and wrote the side stories. Am I remembering incorrectly?

  • Art Modell

    Karma to that one!~~~

  • Anonymous

    You’re close Harv and that’s a good question:

    Grossi sought comment from Modell for a story, but Modell never got back to him. Grossi filed the story without a comment (he may have written Modell was unavailable or could not be reached for comment) but that night, before it was published, the assistant sports editor changed it to read that Modell declined (or refused) to comment, which was not the case.

    That’s what set Modell off and when it hit the fan the next day, Grossi took the blame because the assistant sports editor was friends with the sports editor and was protected by him (that was the main reason he had a job at the PD in the first place, he followed the sports editor from New Orleans and was gone from the PD about 6 months or so after the sports editor left for a better job, I think it was with the Sacramento paper).

    I was working as a college intern at the PD when this all went down so I was privy to the inside talk in the newsroom; everyone there knew what happened, and it obviously hurt Tony a lot.

    Who knows, maybe that’s what made Grossi cynical?

    Anyway, as much as this one was his fault and he deserves some kind of punishment, that one wasn’t.

  • Humboldt

    I agree – I always enjoyed Grossi, and thought he was undeserving of the enormous vitriol people seemed to dish out

  • Anonymous

    Titus, you were there and I wasn’t, but it’s very hard for me to believe that Grossi would have gone through the humiliation of being yanked off the Browns beat because he was afraid to tell the truth about an assistant editor. Doesn’t make sense.

  • Artis

    The PD is pathetic, bought and paid for by the equally pathetic Cleveland Browns.  Grossi is an excellent writer, tons and tons of NFL knowledge. As a Hall of Fame voter, he has been personally responsible for keeping Modell out of the Hall in recent years. I applaud him for that. Hope all you Grossi haters enjoy the sight of Uncle Artie on the steps in Canton, coming soon…

  • Anonymous

    I, too, never had a problem with Grossi. Some writers connect with the fans, such as Pluto, Shaw, and others, and some don’t, such as Grossi and Livingston. But I don’t think that Grossi and Livingston care whether they are liked or not. That’s no knock on them, it’s just the way they’re wired.

    /sort of like Denny (cheap walk-off shot; sorry)

  • Anonymous

    The inner-workings of a newsroom can be very strange at times. This guy had power, Grossi didn’t. And Tony’s name was on the byline.

    I agree it’s strange, but I swear it’s true.

  • Anonymous

    YES!!! YES!!!! YES!!!! YES!!!!

    (in all seriousness, it’s never great when someone loses a job–and maybe Grossi hasn’t–but this is a victory for everyone who enjoys unbiased reporting and journalists who aren’t too lazy to actually do their job)

  • https://twitter.com/jimkanicki jimkanicki

    you cant be serious.

    mkc is soft as a grape. 

  • https://twitter.com/jimkanicki jimkanicki

    yes, ive long thought he mailed it in.  he copped a real arrogant attitude with readers in the hey tony’s.  he knew football but came to believe he knew more football than the guys in berea.

    and yet.

    when you can someone you should have a replacement in mind.  this is a plum PLUM job.  mkc is out of her depth in her current role.  d-man hasnt brought any fresh perspectives to browns conversation.  

    i dont think either of them are worthy of the role and would actually be worse than tony.  i truly hope the PD doesnt blow it with the assignment.

    (my vote is for zac jackson. he tweeted a ‘thanks, but no thanks’ but still.. i think he’d be a great fit for it.)

  • Big Z

    I’m probably the only dude in CLE that liked Grossi. Good luck man.

  • http://twitter.com/oribiasi oribiasi

    I guess he won’t be getting any playoff tickets.

    I know some people write for the Metro section in the PD and I asked around.  He knew it was coming after he made the Tweet and he’s actually fine with it.  He dislikes Holmgren with a passion (remember when I said there were plenty of others, some of them insiders, who hate this regime like I do?) and I’m sure he’ll land on his feet somewhere.

    Final point:  Cracks in the cement first show in odd places.  They don’t always make sense and you write them off just as quick;y as they appear…the fans’ anger was the first.  The tiny quips you hear from the media are second.  Can’t wait to see what is next (a guess: we hear of a player or two, possibly someone who leaves the team, tell us how it really was in that locker room with Hehr Doktor Shurmur).

  • Mark Skog

    I think you’re right about MKC and D-Man. I don’t see it there. Very curious where it goes and what the new product will be. I’ll second Zac Jackson. The would work.

  • porkchopxpress

    “Cracks in the cement first show in odd places.”

    This is absolutely false.  Cracks in cement almost always show in places of constant stress, or pressure.  If the ground beneath your house begins to wash out and your floor sinks a crack will almost invariably appear either in the floor or wall where the sinking has occurred.  Cracks will almost never appear far away from the damage in an “odd place”. 

    Sorry, I figured that everyone challenges your opinions on sports so I’d go after you where you least expect.  And since joking/sarcasm tones don’t always translate to typing, I’m just messing.

  • porkchopxpress

    “Cracks in the cement first show in odd places.”

    This is absolutely false.  Cracks in cement almost always show in places of constant stress, or pressure.  If the ground beneath your house begins to wash out and your floor sinks a crack will almost invariably appear either in the floor or wall where the sinking has occurred.  Cracks will almost never appear far away from the damage in an “odd place”. 

    Sorry, I figured that everyone challenges your opinions on sports so I’d go after you where you least expect.  And since joking/sarcasm tones don’t always translate to typing, I’m just messing.

  • JM

    I would rather see Livingston go

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Frank-Geremia/1196194673 Frank Geremia

    I think it’s bs he was removed from the beat and enjoyed reading his articles.

  • http://twitter.com/pwthornton Patrick Thornton

    Tony may not have connected with fans the way Pluto does, but I’ve always enjoyed his stuff. Tony is particularly good with the non-standard sports coverage: the podcast, Q&As, social media, blog posts, etc. I’ll miss him if he’s off the beat and maybe I won’t read cleveland.com anymore.

    I don’t care that Tony wasn’t the nicest to readers. Many of the questions he receives are ridiculous and harshly written. Everyone thinks they know about sports or could be a writer, but that’s just not true. I frankly enjoyed his snarky responses to people. But the only thing I really care about is his knowledge of football and his reporting. On those counts, Tony is quite good.

    A reporter having an adversarial role with those in power (i.e. Lerner) is not exactly groundbreaking. Why the PD took him off the beat for one errant tweet is beyond me. It’s not exactly like Lerner is A) media friendly B) popular or C) a deserved billionaire. 

    There are not many people who cover the Browns well or even know the Browns well. Tony is one of them. Are we to turn now to the tepid AFC North blog on ESPN.com for coverage?

  • Boris

    All he’s done in his 25+ years is cover the Browns, if he’s taken off the Browns beat, how is that not a firing?

  • porkchopxpress

    uugggghhh, that ESPN “blog” (really what makes it more bloggy than any other piece of content on their site?) is terrible. 

    Headline: “Browns need a QB!”

    Hensleys take: “Maybe they get one in the draft, maybe FA.”

    gee, thanks

  • Anonymous

    First, I personally am glad to see that I will no longer have to read him as often when I read about the Browns.

    Second, he didn’t lose his job, so I don’t feel bad. He was demoted, which I feel was entirely warranted given how awful and vitriolic his work has been over the last four years.

    Third, the PD handled this pretty poorly, IMO.  When a reporter says something termination-worthy, it’s usually racist or otherwise inappropriate.  Criticism of public figures is probably something a paper should champion.

    Fourth, I assume the PD knows that, and that they simply used this incident as justification for something they’ve been looking to do for a while.

  • http://twitter.com/oribiasi oribiasi

    I think you’ll find that criticism based on facts (which mine is) will always have champions, even long after we’ve both gone to glory.

    As to “everyone” challenging me, that’s also a lie and false.  Plenty of people don’t because they agree.

    Keep it real.

    Also, cement…really?  That’s your contribution…thread hijacking?

  • Steve

    Beware the devil that you don’t know.

  • Steve

    Because he still works for the PD and received a check from them. He may take a drastic paycut and only get to analyze the funny pages, but he’s still getting a check that many other residents of the greater Cleveland area would die for.

  • BrownsFanBrad

    So, apparently Grossi meant to direct message a fan instead of tweeting for public view. Still, a bad decision. That follower he tweeted could have been vengeful and posted it online. Anyone remember the Phil Savage “F yourself” email. I don’t know Grossi should have been removed from the Browns beat over this incident, but not the brightest of moves.

  • Harv 21

    thanks, Titus. Back in the day I think I got my version from the alternative weekly Cleveland newspaper, as that was the only source to hear about what happened at the PD pre-internet. Don’t remember the PD uttering a word other than some sort of retraction of Modell’s refusal to comment. Grossi just sort of disappeared for a while, as if Clemenza had assured him in the basement: don’t worry, kid, we’ll let you know when it’s safe to come back, this happens every ten years or so. It cleans out the bad blood.

  • Antaylor

    Its a victory for anyone that wants their news sanitized and approved for public consumption by billionaires.

  • Anonymous

    We still have print media in Cleveland?

  • Anonymous

    I agree in theory, but Grossi also totally sucked. So it’s not much of a loss if any. 

  • http://twitter.com/oribiasi oribiasi

    Did you hear the manager editor on the radio this morning for the PD?  Interesting stuff…he said that due to the medium he used (Twitter) Grossi could not frame his comment in a larger story, and therefore he could not substantiate it with facts.  As such, the comment was not proper as a journalist. 

    This makes me ill beyond belief, but Kiley did have a good comment:  What does this say about the legitimacy of the rest of the paper?  How do we not know that every article doesn’t pass through some sort of billionaire filter, so as to not offend anyone.

    Also, remember that some people at 19 Action News were let go when they aired a 911 call from Lerner’s Aunt.  Bad call for the TV-station, but the KGB-Soviet-esque response is just as bad.

  • Ravenlunatic517

    Art removed a pathetic franchise from a pathetic city and turned them into a perennial winner. Art belongs in the HOF for his contributions to the NFL, not be held out because some deadbeat writers personal vendetta. Good riddance Tony, Your vote won’t be missed

  • Anonymous

    I agree that it is bad work by the PD (although I won’t personally go so far as to say it makes me ill).

    This is why I said that I have to believe they wanted to remove him anyway and were simply looking for an excuse.  It’s one thing for Booms to say and act the way he does, but it is another for someone in Grossi’s position.  

    Either way, weak justification from the PD.

  • Ravenlunatic517

    Art removed a pathetic franchise from a pathetic city and turned them into a perennial winner. Art belongs in the HOF for his contributions to the NFL, not be held out because some deadbeat writers personal vendetta. Good riddance Tony, Your vote won’t be missed

  • steve-o

    The irony in all this is that the PD has now drawn national attention to this tweet, further embarrasing Lerner. Although a lot of people would agree with Grossi, I understand why the PD felt he’s the wrong guy for this job. Enjoyed his articles for his brand of dark humor, but often disagreed with him. He had one of the best jobs on the planet, and it seems did not fully appreciate it. As for Lerner, I believe he really does want the Browns to win, I just wish he was as passionate about football as the fans on this site.