May 18, 2013

What I Expect From Holmgren and Heckert’s Press Conference – (Not Much)

Yesterday Pat Shurmur seemed relieved in giving his review of the tumultuous first season with the Cleveland Browns.  He talked about how it wasn’t good enough.  He talked about hiring an offensive coordinator.  He talked about cherishing the opportunity for a real off-season this year with a roster of players he now knows pretty intimately.  As far as looking toward the future though, he wasn’t able to shed a lot of light other than the fact that there will be changes and everyone is intent on doing much better next year.  I wasn’t overly bothered by the message or the content, but I imagine a lot of people were left unfulfilled by it.  I think it put an extra emphasis on Thursday when Tom Heckert and Mike Holmgren are scheduled to speak.  I am just not expecting much more than what we got from Shurmur.

On the staffing situation, I am guessing Holmgren and Heckert will re-affirm what Shurmur said about hiring a coordinator and not talk specifically about candidates other than to say, “Yes. I’ve worked with him and I have great respect for him.”

When it comes to players on the Browns roster currently they will say a lot of the same things that Pat Shurmur said about Joe Thomas and Joe Haden.  They will speak glowingly about D’Qwell Jackson and Peyton Hillis who are upcoming free agents.  They will most certainly stroke their egos by praising draft selections, Greg Little, Phil Taylor and most of all Jabaal Sheard.

They might speak generically about how exciting it is to have so many draft selections this year at Tom Heckert’s disposal.  They might talk about how exciting all kinds of players are in the first round of the draft.  Ultimately though, they will say very little.

They will talk about wanting to get better.  Holmgren might even offer a barely-meant “mea culpa” for his tone and demeanor the last time he spoke to the press about Colt McCoy and the concussion situation.  More than likely if anything in that realm is offered he won’t mean it at all.

My point in all this is that there won’t be a lot of juicy bits.  There won’t even be anything to chew on, I don’t think.  I’m not saying I have a problem with that either.  It is far too early to even plant misdirection for the draft as we are still waiting for bowl games to finish and some juniors to declare or not.  It is also too early to be talking in detail about free agents as many are still scheduled to be playing in the playoffs.

That’s what I expect anyway.  Maybe I’m wrong and there will be some fireworks.  Does anyone else expect anything else?  What would you like them to discuss after a season as bad as this one turned out to be?

  • MrCleaveland

    When Holmgren first got here, I was pleasantly surprised by his candor. But now that he has a record to defend, he might be a little less forthcoming.

    But as you point out, Craig, there’s not a whole lot for him to say. He can’t sit there and rip people. There’s likely no news to be broken. He’s not going to divulge any secrets. I don’t expect much, and we really have no reason to. And I’m fine with that.

  • B-bo

    I expect (and am ok with) the bland, uneventful press conference as described here. I then expect gnashing of teeth and rending of garments from those who dislike the organization as currently constituted. Holmgren will be accused of incompetence and/or “just cashing a check”, Shurmur will be burned in effigy, and Randy Lerner will be cursed. Kool-Aid and the consumption of it will be referenced. Hidden yet nefarious meaning will be attributed to innocuous statements by H&H. Snark will be plentiful. Can’t wait.

  • 216in614

    At this point in the post-season the more they reveal there intentions the more of a disadvantage they are at so they better not say too much that we don’t already know.

  • oribiasi

    @ B-bo: How could anyone be disappointed with this organization?! They’ve done so much for us alread…er…wait…what exactly have they done since coming here that has done anything positive for the city of Cleveland and its Browns fans?

  • MrCleaveland

    @4

    Holmgren banished the turd pants. That alone is deserving of a spot in the ring of honor.

  • Harv 21

    B-Bo, O Prescient One.

  • Whatchagot

    Who cares about the tone Holmgren adopted at that last conference? Yes, Holmgren was exasperated by the concussion coverage. Yes, he seemed angry and put out. But does anyone outside of the press corps care that Holmgren took that tone? No. I don’t need Holmgren to utter a “mea culpa” about upbraiding the media. As a fan, I need Holmgren to tell us that they know the product on the field was awful. As a fan, I need Holmgren and Heckert to convince me there is a plan to pull this team out of the cellar. I don’t expect details. And I don’t give a rat’s rear end about the press’ feelings.

  • oribiasi

    @ MrCleaveland: Ok, ok, good example. I’ll give you that one.

  • kev

    I think people are overly pessimistic. Maybe I’m too optimistic. But this team has some good things going, and as it has been stated, the offseason should be very interesting and dangerous for the future of the franchise.

    Indeed the team played as a “rookie team” for me if that makes sense. A lot of stupid mistakes that should/could have been avoided, crazy play calling etc. And I actually think the team was better than what the record shows and that record might be the best thing that happened to the browns (better draft status).

    The offense is certainly the biggest work and some big question marks (Colt McCoy). But Defense, even though made of a lot of young players, got better and I’m really looking forward to next year with an improved (LB corp) and more experienced (Sheard, Taylor, Haden, Ward) unit.

    That defense is what makes me optimistic as I think it should be the measuring stick of the work the front office is capable of.

    Finally I hope Shurmur will be more comfortable in his job, with a year under his belt and an experienced OC.

    Call me crazy but I still believe!

  • oribiasi

    @ Harv 21: Oh, aloof one.

    But hey, you made the effort to make some comments and you emerged from the maelstrom unscathed! God bless the USA!

    @ kev: See a doctor immediately. You have what is known in the medical community as “koolaiditis,” or in the common tongue, “Believeland Syndrome.” It’s an ugly thing, I ain’t gunna lie to you. We’ve all lost a good friend to this plague and I just hope that with enough does of statistics and reality, you’ll pull through. Keep your chin up, old boy.

  • Matt

    Anyone who think Colt McCoy is a problem is NUTS. Look at the kid’s stats. Not bad considering he had a mediocre running game behind him and a terrible recieving corps to throw to. Give the kid some weapons and another year, then let’s see how he does. The first five picks of the draft should be offense. The defense is fine, just needs some depth players, about 3 or 4, one each at line, linebacker and secondary. However, the offense should draft a tailback, two deep threats and two offensive lineman right off the bat. And fyi, what were Seneca Wallace’s stats when he started? The Browns need offense and they need it NOW.

  • Garry Owen

    @ Matt: I’m with you, but I think we should use at least one of those first 5 picks on a CB or FS.

  • RyInCBus

    Craig, is it just me or am I sensing a slight departure from the calm, understanding ‘practice patience’ stance you often took earlier in the season? Not that you’re yelling into a microphone or anything, but I do notice a sense of cynicism that I don’t recall ever being there before. Nothing wrong with it, just noticeable. Seems perhaps this season took its toll on a lot of us.

  • http://www.waitingfornextyear.com Craig Lyndall

    Haven’t lost patience. I was looking hard at this team all year and now that the season is finally over the amount of work it is going to take to fix it is starting to set in. I still like a lot of the direction this team is going in from a roster standpoint and I think there were a lot of extenuating circumstances for this season. But if I said I was completely unconcerned about projecting next year’s roster and W/L record, I would be lying.

    The stakes are monumental this off-season and I think we all know it. That’s probably the tone you are sensing now.

  • B-bo

    @Oribiasi If we’re being literal, I’m fairly certain the city of Cleveland receives some economic benefits from the Browns being there. If we’re talking in a “what have you done for me, the fan, lately” sense, then perhaps the negatives have outweighed the positives just a bit.

    I suppose my point is that it’s a bit exhausting to know that folks will take what is designed to be a dull, vanilla presser and expect it to be a bearing of the franchise’s soul or an intimate, insider look at what it does. I am routinely amazed at the attitude that some fans have when it comes to their team(s) of choice–especially the Browns: the sense of entitlement is immense and, at times, nauseating. I love this team, but they are by no means obligated to share with me their personnel evaluations or draft strategies or approach to hiring coaches or signing players. I’d listen, and it might be interesting, and maybe it would provide some comfort/feeling of confidence, but it is hardly a requirement. I’m a fan, not an employee or an owner If we (as non-shareholders) demanded those sorts of things from other businesses, folks would think us unreasonable at best. And if Art Modell taught us anything, it’s that sports teams, much as we love them, are still businesses in the end.

  • Wheel

    Here’s what Holmgren’s message should be, loud and clear: “I’m not happy!”

    This time, spare us the lecture and the threats.

  • Shamrock

    They’ll both be propping up their choice of Shurmur as head coach. I hope they get asked if they will participate in that thing called free agency. It’s been known to help improve a team.

  • Mike in Seattle

    Hmmm…let me try this….

    Bleh, not as satisfying for me as it appears to be for some folk.

  • Mike in Seattle

    well THAT comment didn’t turn out as I expected. Sorry guys.

  • oribiasi

    @ B-bo: If we’re talking in a “what have you done for me, the fan, lately” sense, then perhaps the negatives have outweighed the positives just a bit.

    Perhaps a bit. Stunning sentence.

    Is two winning record seasons in 13 years considered a bit of a negative? Is one playoff game in 13 seasons a bit? Also, how is 13 years “lately?”

    I guess you need to decide whether you, as a fan, have the right to want better performance from the team you support monetarily and emotionally, or if you feel like the only right you have is to sit in the seat you buy for 4-5 hours per week.

    If you are of the latter mind set, then I feel sorry for you. Maybe you’ve been beaten down so long as a Cleveland fan that you don’t have any fight left in to you or maybe you just don’t care that much. Either way, and I mean this, you should and I hope you will someday expect, nay demand better.

  • B-bo

    Ok, I take the blame on that one. I neglected to use the sarcasm font.

    And yes, fans have a right to want more from the teams they support when it comes to performance. And Browns fans (Cleveland fans in general, really) deserve, in my opinion, to have better. However, fans are not entitled to anything. Just because this team was taken away, many folks now seem to think that it must discuss every decision it makes with the fan base, and that’s just foolish. The fact that there will be complaints tomorrow and going forward if there’s no “substance” provided (detailed player/coach critiques, free agency plans, specific draft targets, the location of Jimmy Hoffa’s body) when there’s no team in their right mind that would be that open with their fans is what irks me.

    I want to see better from this franchise. I hope to see better. But I’m not sure what good it does any of us to DEMAND it. The alternative is not to watch or follow or buy tickets, and if it gets that bad for me, then that’s what I’ll do, because that is all a fan can realistically do.

  • Big Z

    To all you McCoy guys, LET’S END THIS!!

    What other genuine starting QB is McCoy actually better than!? And I’m not talking about stats, I’m talking about ACTUAL play! Not numbers on a piece of paper that include, in the Browns’ case, about 15 minutes or more of garbage time per game.

    Dan Orlovsky… THAT’S IT! Colt is better than Dan Orlovsky… by golly give him some weapons! What a joke.