August 26, 2014

While We’re Waiting… Grading the Sessions trade, Masterson dominates and WFNY sitting with the President?

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“In the end, the Cavaliers certainly made the right move. They traded an expendable player in Sessions for an essentially certain first round pick in 2012 and a nice draft ability in 2013. They had to take on a bad contract in Walton, but that doesn’t really have any impact on the Cavs cap situation. This was a classic case of both teams getting what they wanted. The Lakers needed Sessions — the Cavs didn’t. Sessions’ absence allows the Cavs to give more minutes to Kyrie while probably losing a few more games and improving their own lottery position. It is now clear that the Cavs front office is not short-sighted in this rebuilding process. They are not gunning for the 8th seed this year, but rather accumulating assets to make this team competitive in the long term. I wholeheartedly support this approach. ” [Kaczmarek/Fear the Sword]

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“Sinkerballer Justin Masterson had his best outing of the spring on Thursday against the White Sox. he logged four no-hit, shutout innings, ending with four strikeouts, one walk and five outs created with grounders. Masterson threw 55 pitches (33 strikes). Masterson noted that he threw “a couple handfuls” of changeups against Chicago. “Usually my quota is like two a year, so I filled it in pretty quick,” he said with a laugh. Masterson threw some in counts he wouldn’t throw them during the regular season. He just wanted to work some with the pitch.” [Bastian/MLB.com]

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If you read Stepien Rules, you know how painful a trade this was for Brendan. You’ll get over it B. “I also thought about the nickname we gave him, the interview we did when I explained the nickname to him and he told me he’d prefer it if I called him that. I thought about the points tracker series that Dave Wooley engineered, and the t-shirts that Fresh Brewed Tees made with his likeness on the front. As the shock subsided, I thought about all the good times we had.

Then I thought about how lucky Los Angeles is for being compensated Skyenga in this package. Not just the Lakers, but the entire city. In a lot of respects, Skyenga was always destined for Hollywood, and now he’s going there. You guys thought Shannon Brown could dunk? In the words of Ozzie Guillen, please. Not even all the smog you have out there can keep this guy down. So appreciate what you got in this deal, LA, make my guy feel at home, and tell Jack to call him Skyenga. We’ll miss you around here buddy.” [Bowers/Stepien Rules]

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In fairness, not everyone liked the trade. John Hollinger gave the Cavaliers a D in his trade deadline grade card- “First, let’s follow the dead money. Walton makes $6.1 million next year with his trade kicker; Eyenga makes $1.1 million; neither of them are likely to play much or do anything of consequence if they do. So Cleveland swallows $5 million in dead 2012-13 salary. For the privilege, they get a first-round pick from L.A. that will likely be in the 20s. The interesting part here is that when teams have done cash-for-late-first-rounder deals, they’ve typically valued the pick in the $3-4 million range. At best, the Cavs slightly overpaid on this part of the equation. And from L.A.’s side the savings double since they’re in the luxury tax; effectively being paid $10 million for a late first-rounder is great business on their part.

But wait … Cleveland also gave up a really good point guard! The Lakers essentially got Sessions for free; it was a fair deal just to give them a first-rounder to take Walton off their hands. The Cavs do effectively move up a few spots in the 2013 draft with this deal. The Cavs get the right to swap Miami’s first-round pick, which they own, with L.A.’s; most likely, that pushes them from 29th or 30th into more like the low-mid 20s.” [Hollinger/ESPN Insider]

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Former WFNY weekend editor, and University of Dayton student Jacob Rosen was one of the students chosen to sit withclose to President Obama, and he wrote about the experience. “After the game, several students joined me for one final photo opportunity with the president on the court. I stood on my toes to be just over Obama’s right shoulder, and plan on framing some of the noteworthy photos from that moment. As he left, I finally had my one shot to say something quick to the leader of the free world. And fortunately, the only thing that mattered at that point was short and sweet: “Thank you, Mr. President. Thank you for coming to the University of Dayton.” [Rosen/Flyer News]

  • http://www.waitingfornextyear.com Andrew Schnitkey

    The thing that kills me the most about people complaining about the Sessions trade is that the Sesh-for-1st rounder rumor has been out there for 3-4 weeks. We’ve been writing about it on this site this whole time. And never once did I read anyone write anywhere that the 1st round pick wasn’t enough for Sessions. But then, the instant the trade is announced, people flip out, say the Cavs got hosed, and that they didn’t get near enough.

    But yet nobody, not a single person, has told me yet what, specifically, the Cavs should have received from the Lakers. No lottery team was going to give the Cavs their 1st round pick for Sessions. It was the Lakers, and only the Lakers. And the Lakers had options. You don’t think they could have traded with Portland for Felton? You think Charlotte wouldn’t consider giving up DJ Augustin for the right package? At worst they could have taken Jonny Flynn from Houston. LA didn’t need Cleveland, they just preferred Sessions because it was the perfect sweet spot between getting a quality starting PG and only having to give up the 1st round pick. 

    Maybe Cleveland shouldn’t have taken Walton’s salary as a favor? Fine. But it’s Dan Gilbert’s money. Taking on $6 million of Luke Walton for 1 season has ZERO impact on the rebuilding path. 

    This was a nice trade for both teams, and fans of both teams are (mostly) happy.

  • mgbode

    can I get an…AMEN

  • mgbode

    in addition, if 1st round picks are generally valued at $3-4mil and this draft is projected to have good depth, then is paying a $1mil penalty to make sure we get that pick a bad thing?

    I agree that it is also a good trade from the Lakers POV.  they save $10mil, get a PG, and use their ’13 1st rounder on Skeyenga.  he’s not a good bball player, but hey maybe he can give them some quality minutes when he’s surrounded by better players and his only role is to run around and jump really high.

  • mgbode

    not directly Cavs related, but you knew I had to give a word about the ‘other’ Lakers trade. Lakers traded Derek Fisher and the Dallas 1st rounder for Jordan Hill.

    I am ecstatic to see some rotations where Jordan Hill plays with Pau Gasol.  I know I am in the minority on him, but I think he can be a really good player and his rebounding, defense, and blocking ability go perfectly next to a guy like Pau.

  • Harv 21

    I was amazed a guard Fisher’s age gets traded. To anyone, with anyone else, for anything.  A center, sure, but wondering if this is historic.

  • mgbode

    only included to make salaries match up.

  • http://twitter.com/MaliceNavy Michael Reed

    Fitting. Nothing from the Browns today.

  • swig

    I agree wholeheartedly with both of you.

    The other point (which hollinger seems to have missed), a draft pick has infinitely more value next year than sessions will (that whole dividing by zero thing).

  • Mike

    here is a BIG point that hollinger totally overlooks regarding Walton. 
    his salary doesnt matter!  he is right that it is dead money.  but from
    what i can tell, he totally forgot about the salary floor, i.e., salary
    has to be at least $49mil.  next season, the cavs have, as of now, about
    $20mil in committed salary (andy, irving, tristan, casspi). thats it!  that doesnt count walton or gibson’s team option.
    (also doesnt count baron davis at $14.8 – not sure if this counts
    toward the floor or not).  even with davis and gibson’s option, they are
    still under the floor.  even if they bring back Gee, samuels, erden, et
    al. but that is still not big money.  so basically, the money committed
    to walton next year is money they HAD to spend somewhere.  so why not
    tie it up in a guy as an expiring deal?  they werent going to sign
    anyone to a 1 year $6 million dollar deal anyways.  walton’s contract is totally insignificant in this equation.  this trade to me was a win-win for both teams.

  • Mike

     from what i can tell, if you count walton, gibson’s option and baron davis next year, cavs are sitting at $45.8 committed salary.  still $4mill+ under the salary floor.  walton’s salary is meaningless.

  • swig

    From the Dailey Dime on tWWL
    And the Cleveland Cavaliers somehow downgraded their roster while taking on additional financial commitments.
    If this pick becomes even a decent bench player they’ll be talking about what a sneakily crafty move this was.  If the player doesn’t work up this trade will never be mentioned again.  Their current analysis is ridiculous.

  • swig

    *Daily

  • mgbode

    Baron Davis does not count in any way towards the cap due to his amnesty (unless there is something weird about that floor, but I dont’ think so).

    And that is a good point to consider.  Thanks.

  • mgbode

    yeah, they are all acting like Sessions was a long-term fixture for our team.  In that sense, taking on more $$$ and trading him for a pick in the 20s could end up biting us.  but, we all know pretty well we were losing him, so we get that 1st round pick for $$$.

    anyways, the more dangerous topic is in TrueHoop today.  they are discussing how the Blazers are “evil” for blowing up their roster and want to come up with a solution that will inevitably hurt the teams with the worst records.  I think it is ridiculous.  In all sports, the teams with the worst record get first dibs (or close to it in the NBA-sense) to the best players coming out.  It just so happens that 1 or 2 elite guys can make more of a difference in the NBA than other leagues. 

    Yet, let’s figure out a rigged system that really screws with those bad teams to give their fans even less hope at ever getting good again.  Ridiculous.

  • http://www.waitingfornextyear.com/ WFNYRick

     You are correct, Davis’ salary is paid but does not count against the salary cap.

  • Mike

    baron definitely does NOT count against the cap.  however, an amnestied salary might count towards the floor.  it would actually make sense to count towards the floor since it is still salary the team is paying out.

  • TOJ

    Wasn’t Hollinger the guy urging a Gibson-Sessions for $3M and a bag of magic beans (a bag containing NO draft picks) deal a week ago?

    Stick to analyzing the past rather than predicting the future.

  • BrownsFanSF

    Maybe Hollinger it just salty that we didn’t get even more hosed with his suggested trade.  The one where we dumped Sessions for a worse back-up point guard and a few extra bucks…

  • swig

    That’s absurd.  Blowing up a team and starting over is super standard for any professional sport with a salary cap.

    I did look up that article, it’s too absurd to even link to.  The lottery IS the protection against tanking.  Anyway, I would rather have a franchise try and be awful, in order to get better, instead of simply being inept.