2012 NFL Draft: Cleveland Browns Select QB Brandon Weeden

you wanted Kellen Moore in the 1st?

I think those of us that are upset about the pick (as I’ve stated over and over) are upset because we could have had Riley Reiff at 22 and secured the RT spot for 10 years.  Weeden is a good QB, and will play well for 6-8 years.  But he would have been there at 37.  That’s the point.

That being said… He’s a Brown now, and I love the guy.  I just hope Cordy Glenn somehow falls to us at 37… or Stephen Hill.  We gotta get get Weeden a WR.  Maybe a Mike Wallace signing is in order (as much as I hate him).

and the Cleveland Browns select to play WR in the 2nd round:   Jaret Wright

when he steps into his throws, he has a slightly above average arm.  however, he also usually doesn’t step into this throws and has a baseball windup motion on his deeper throws (takes too much time to get them out and gives the S’s a tell as to where he is throwing).

i’m hoping for the best, but not expecting it at this point.

local sports shops will sew on a new name for you.  so that was a good deal!

the parallel with the name Quinn being in a disaster movie is just erie

good point.  hopefully the Browns have a sabremetric team of analysts that are telling them Weeden was undervalued by everyone else like the Cavs did with tigger.

someone could have seen the Browns need and targeted a trade ahead of the Browns at #37.  now, even then, the Browns probably should have just traded up from #37 instead, but I can at least understand that angle.   KC the most likely team.

I like Riley Reiff, but it’s not certain Weeden would’ve been there at 37, (didn’t Heckert mention that?).  A RT would’ve been great but QB is the most important position in arguably all of sports.  You simply will not contend if you do not have a QB that can play at a high level.  In that regard, I love the pick.  

Given the number of trades that we saw in the 1st round, you have to think about the possibility of a team trading up to take Weeden before 37. Seattle, KC, Buffalo all could have conceivably moved up in front of us to take him, given their supposed needs at QB. That had to have been H&H’s thinking……….

I too, like most of you, was disappointed with the pick initially after seeing the other prospects that were available.  After sleeping on it and thinking back to how terrible Colt McCoy has been in a Browns uniform I’ve come to the conclusion that I don’t hate this pick as much as I did.  Could he have been there at 37, maybe?  But if we get Hill, Randle or Jeffrey at 37 will it matter in the end?  Here are my brief thoughts.

1)  McCoy is terrible.  Horrendous even.  Anyone who watched him try to play QB1 last year should have way less hair and the hair that is still there is probably gray. He is not an NFL starting QB.  I don’t care what the talent was around him.  He made terrible decisions, terrible plays and he has the arm strength of a Pee Wee League All-Star.  Every backup QB in the NFL is better than Colt.

2)  We need right side help on the offensive line.  No doubt.  There are a lot of quality prospects still on the board.  Will any of them be there with our third round pick, sure, but probably not the “sexy pick” guys everyone knows about because of our love with mock draft overloads.  Let’s face it.  There are a ton of top lineman that were drafted late or even undrafted.  We can wait on lineman.

3)  As I said above, if Hill, Randle or Jeffrey are taken at 37 does the Weeden pick at 22 really even matter.  Maybe you could have reached to take Hill or Randle at 22 and hoped Weeden had been there at 37, but if he wasn’t you don’t draft a QB there anyways. 

4)  The draft isn’t over.  Let’s see what happens in the 2nd and 3rd rounds.  Maybe we trade up into the mid second if a lineman we really like falls back.  Maybe we don’t, but the Browns should be graded on the overall draft, not what they did on the first day.  Besides the T Rich pick with the trades is an A+.  If we would have kept all 13 draft picks what percentage of those picks would have even made the team.

5)  McCoy is terrible… oh wait, already said that, sorry.

6)  This isn’t a playoff team now and it won’t be a playoff team after this draft.  Reactions that I see make me think that this draft and these two first round picks will dictate what happens to this franchise moving forward.  This team may win 2 games or they may win 7 games next year.  Who knows?  We won’t know what the team actually looks like until they play the games.  So if we have another top 5 pick next year we get the best available player and all these guys we’ve drafted in the past 3 years have an extra year of experience and we have more salary cap room in the 2013 off season.  What’s the name of this blog again?

In closing, please everyone, back off the ledge.  Let the kid prove himself.  And if he sucks then we draft a QB1 next year after H & H are fired.  

I’d rather have richardson than the extremely overrated Blackmom

Think how much more excited you are now to watch the browns.  A new QB and a new RB…maybe we can move the ball a little. 

Also, I expect them to get back into the end of the second round.  I expect a new WR and a new OL or LB in the second.

Or shaun alexander….the real reason the Seahawks were good when Holmgren was there.

10% ????

You obviously arent a browns fan. With the amount i have ti drink to watch these games, no way am i living past 50

I knew you’d all come around.  One way or another.

Agreed.  I think the main thing this pick shows is: 1) the team thinks McCoy is a big problem, and 2) they could care less about Weeden’s age.  They view him as a top-tier talent, and see other remaining QBs as a big drop off.  

My guess is that they would have taken Wright if he was there, and then vigilantly watched Weeden and traded back up to get him if necessary.  Now we have Weeden and will likely get Randle.  So I am OK with that.

there is a place (the best WR available played there).

their is a plural possessive (their draft picks are worth more than ours)

they’re is a contraction (they’re out of their minds for picking him)

Well technically its Quint, too much Weed(en) and an Arrogant Bastard got the better of my typing.  Still a damn fine monologue about the Indy.  In my book its second only to Rick Moranis’s explaining the coming of Gozer in Ghostbusters.

Yeah, ‘cuz Kosar sucked!?! I’m pretty sure everyone here would relish the idea of another Bernie Kosar starting for the Browns but you.

I can not believe I had to read through 30 minutes of negativity. I am glad for the positive fans on here – GingerSnap22   and others…..                  

I posted this back in February: 2 months ago     

I have the answer:

Draft Richardson at #4, then draft the best DE – Pass rusher at the next pick in the first round.

2nd round take QB Brandon Weeden and 3rd round take OT – Pass blocker

Those are our biggest problems on the team. Do not take a Receiver because we took 3 in the 2nd round for the past 2 years. QB is our biggest problem followed by defensive end and offensive tackle.

We will have a better chance of a winning season in 2 years if we go this route.

Richardson and Weeden will have at least 6 years of quality play.

Three years from now, we can be competing in the playoffs.

Ridiculous comparison, and you aren’t the only one I’ve seen make it. Young spent years in NFL practices, with NFL players, learning NFL systems from NFL coaches. Weeden played in the Big 12 after wearing down his arm failing to catch on in MLB.

What good is Hill if Weeden has no time to throw? Unless that cannon arm of his works while lying on his back. Whiffing on Reiff and DeCastro is just brutal.

Dude, how many 1st round picks can you put on an O-line? We’d have three 1st round picks on our O-line and ZERO playmakers (Richardson’s comin’ though). What’s the point?  

My point w/ the Weeden comparison is that Young played from 91-99, 8 years, at the age of 30+, and won a Superbowl. So what if Weeden’s old? He can still possibly play for 10 years at a high level. He’s an IMMEDIATE upgrade over McCoy and legitimizes the offense.

You’re trying to sell the fact that a RT and some playmakers would’ve done it for the Browns. You’ll see that McCoy will be a career backup after he leaves today, and that by keeping him and adding weapons, they would’ve just been spinning the tires for another year. They could put a 1st round pick at EVERY SINGLE O-LINE POSITION and still failed w/ McCoy at QB. 

But we have to build through the draft!!!

Clearly you have a much higher opinion of Weeden than I, as I don’t understand what makes him an IMMEDIATE upgrade over McCoy. As Harv points out so astutely, Young was hardly green when he got his chance. In Weeden’s case, his age brings him no greater advantages as he tries to grab the starting spot. In fact, it means he’s had less development time than guys his age currently in the league. Oh, and the wear and tear of pitching.

And seeing as we had no RT and no playmakers last year, yes, I do think they could have made a difference for McCoy. I don’t think he’s top-tier NFL talent either, but I know he wasn’t given any real chance to prove it either way in his time here. Had we given him a line and some weapons and he failed, then grab Barkley or whoever next year’s Griffin III turns out to be. Instead we’ll go with a middling stopgap RT (especially if Hill really is our target at #37), Weeden will find no time to get the ball to anyone, and won’t have the mobility to do anything about it. McCoy may have been beat up by season’s end, but Brandon Weeden would have been dead by Week 8 last year.

I mean, if getting quality RTs is so easy, then what’s our excuse for the past decade? I don’t care if we use a first rounder on the line every year. Until we can protect and run block, all the shiny playmakers in the world won’t mean a thing.