April 17, 2014

NFL Draft: Five 2012 QB Draftees are better than Cam Newton

The quarterback position tops the list of needs for the Cleveland Browns and, per an anonymous NFL scout, the team could be in luck. In speaking with two scouts tasked with grading the upcoming draft class, Pete Dougherty from the Green Bay Press Gazette is told that there could be up to five quarterbacks selected in 2012 who stack up better than Carolina’s Cam Newton, last year’s first-overall selection.

To further the comparison, Dougherty writes that both Andrew Luck and Robert Griffin III represent a better top end at the position than the famed draft class of 2004 which featured Eli Manning, Philip Rivers and Ben Roethlisberger — the trio has four Super Bowl rings and plenty of playoff appearances between them.

“Both scouts rated Texas A&M’s Ryan Tannehill as the next-best [behind Luck and Griffin],” writes Dougherty. “One then had Michigan State’s Kirk Cousins next followed by Oklahoma State’s Brandon Weeden, whereas the other had them vice versa. Cousins’ strengths are he reacts fast and he’s an impressive athlete. The big issue with Weeden is his age — he played minor-league baseball and will turn 29 in October of his rookie season. He’s got plenty of arm talent, but that age matters.”

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  • Runcordes

    Wow, that is a load of garbage. It just keeps spewing out this time of year.

  • porckchopexpress

    The “trio” of Manning, Rivers, and Rothelisberger have 4 SuperBowls between them?  Two of those QBs have 2 Super Bowl wins apiece, one of them has a trip to the AFC championship game and not much else.
    As for the 5 QBs better than Newton thing its too stupid for words, just reeks of somebody paying to get their guys name out there.

  • Brian@ClevelandSportsTorture

    If the Browns draft a 29 year old quarterback that might be the last straw.

  • Natedawg86

    especially if they do it in an early round!  This team wears you down man.

  • mgbode

    wait, you mean 5 QBs won’t become their team’s best short yardage RB with a few games passing over 400yds too?

  • BenRM

    Ha.

  • Natedawg86

    Hold on buddy, only 15 more days…

  • Max

    I sure wish this guy would share whatever it is he is smoking. Would probably make watching the Browns less painful

  • Garry_Owen

    “at Chess.”  The sentence was supposed to say, “Five 2012 QB Draftees are better than Cam Newton AT CHESS.” 

    I have no problem with this analysis. 

  • mgbode

    what are you trying to say about Cam Newton’s ability to properly utilize an Anderssen Opening?

  • Garry_Owen

    It’s not his opening, it’s his middlegame.  The guy can’t string together a Lasker-Bauer combination to save his life! 

    [I have no idea what that means.  I Wiki'd it to sound intelligent.]

  • http://twitter.com/oribiasi oribiasi

    From a guy who plays chess semi-regularly…I’m actually impressed you used those terms properly in a sentence. :)

  • Harv 21

    “Uh, what’s your name – Pete? Listen, Pete, don’t take this the wrong way … get the hell out. Out!  No, we’re not interested in seeing your chart, scram! Yeesh. And who keeps leaving that door open?”

  • Garry_Owen

    I love the game, but don’t know the first technical thing about it.  I’m an amateur hack, but sometimes a pretty good one.

  • BenRM

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pete_Dougherty
    Normally I don’t condone this sort of thing but…tee hee

  • Garry_Owen

    Oh no you didn’t! 

  • The_Real_Shamrock

    Do the people who write these things honestly believe it or are they just trying to get attention?  God bless the Internet!

  • Harv 21

    whoa, talk about handy and quick with a pitchfork. Any moment now Dougherty will be getting mocking emails and sending out his paper’s IT department to clean up .

  • Max

    you win the internet!

  • Jaker

    Whoa whoa whoa. Is this guy really suggesting that Cousins Weeden and Tannehill will ALL be a better pro than Cam Newton? Someone please help me understand this.

  • mgbode

    “pretty good amatuer chess hack” would sound decent on a scouting profile page

  • saggy

    i think Tim Couch was a “pretty good amateur chess hack.  with a flimsy arm.”

  • saggy

    i would like to point out that he meant “The 4 QBs: Manning, Rivers, Rothelisberger, and saggy have 4 Super Bowls between them.”

  • saggy

    I’ve been thinking about Miami trading up to get Tannehill at #3.  it would be the BEST thing ever for the Browns.  Then Cleveland could snag Kalil at #4, and try and trade back up to get Claiborne a pick or two later.   

    You figure they would spend less in this situation that they would have spent to get RGIII.  You get 2 bona fide blue-chip starters (and potential All-Pros) for less than you could have had RGIII.  OL’s, for sure, and CB’s pan out at a MUCH higher rate than the other positions.  It’s a great move, in my opinion.

  • mgbode

    many think he would have done better if he ever had a good line of pawns in front of him though

  • Hypno_Toad

    9 days too late.

  • porckchopexpress

    No matter how you cut it this draft is no where near as impressive as 2000 when two 6th round picks Spergon Whynn and Tom Brady went on to combine for FOUR SuperBowl wins.  You gotta have an eye for talent to pluck those two that late.

  • http://twitter.com/oribiasi oribiasi

    Bravo.

  • woofersus

    The scout was probably anonymous because he works for another AFC central team who would love to see the browns use the #4 overall on a converted WR project who won’t start in year 1 or a 29 year old who is only about 50/50 to see a winning season with this particular team before he starts his physical decline, all when the guys who will catch or take handoffs from said wunderkind probably don’t make half the teams in the league.  Or it’s a browns official hoping Miami will bite and give us way too much to move up 4 spots.

    Or, it’s another in a long line of analysts who don’t spend more than 5 minutes “analyzing” any team that wasn’t in the playoffs last year (except the Jets) and has no idea what any of them need.  This stuff is pretty ridiculous.  Could anybody just a few months ago say with a strait face that Tannehill would go at #4?  Weedon?  Not a chance.  It’s like once the actual playing stops everybody loses their mind.

  • Humboldt

     Tough to put a ‘rook in that situation

  • Caratop1999

    Don’t downplay Spergon, he started on the toronto Argos over can’t miss QB/Receiver, heisman trophy winning Erik Crouch. Now I remember who Tannehill reminds me of….

  • Ac

    Those last 4 words reminded me of: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-8F_bO5zQXk

  • mgbode

    Wynn won a Superbowl?

    Tom is 3-2 in SBs, so Wynn must have won one when I wasn’t looking :)