May 22, 2013

Tom Heckert Talks First Round as the NFL Draft Inches Closer

With the draft exactly one week away, Cleveland Browns general manager Tom Heckert took to the podium for his pre-draft press conference, fielding questions about headlines, smokescreens and the pressure to perform given the draft history of the team under which he presides.

While he would understandably not get into specifics, reacting to all draft board questions with body language that ranged from slight chuckles to belly laughs, Heckert discussed philosophy and where, exactly, the front office is when it comes to analyzing specific players.

Unless the team is presented an offer like they received last season, one which Heckert claims he is still happy with, the Browns general manager stated that not only do they wish to stay with the fourth-overall selection, but there is collective agreement on who they will take when their helmet pops into the corner of the screen during ESPN’s Thursday night broadcast.

But, Peter King said otherwise!

“I haven’t talked to Peter King in years,” Heckert exclaimed. “Everyone says stuff [about the draft] that they do not know — it’s their best guess.”

Armed with 13 draft picks and a boat load of needs, much of the focus heading into next Thursday night will be surrounding skill players, specifically those on the offensive end. Heckert claims that the guys whom the team opts to select in the first three rounds will all be starters, but a lot of what happens is also in the hands of luck. The team has what they call “scenario boards” which aim to replicate a mock draft in fantasy football. If they select Player A with the fourth pick, who do they land at Nos. 22 and 37?

No players were discounted. Justin Blackmon and Trent Richardson were called “class guys.” Mo Claibourne could be one of the three cornerbacks Heckert feels a team needs to succeed in a passing league. Ryan Tannehill had an excellent workout and hasn’t moved up draft boards — he’s where teams had him on day one. Is Brandon Weeden’s age an issue? No, but it’s there. The more pre-draft stories of diversion that are released, the better.

Heckert confirmed that the team does not have a tiered approach to their first selection and that there are difinitive numbers one through four. And not long before providing yet another vote of confidence for quarterback Colt McCoy, Heckert claimed that the team feels that there are presently 18 players who grade out as “first round-talent,” two of which they are confident they can obtain with their two first-round selections. When the draft board shakes out, however, while the team is very aware of their needs, their philosophy of drafting whom they feel is the best player available will continue to dominate.

“You have to be careful, can’t panic,” said Heckert. ”I’ve made bad mistakes and it was not from a skill position standpoint, but it was a position of need. We traded up for both positions, but they were bad moves and something we never should’ve done. It was a long time ago and we learned from it. There’s a lot of pressure from media and fans, but it’s my job to say ‘wait, it’s not the right thing to do.’ I think it’s the hardest thing to convey to fans. We want guys as much as they do, but we can’t make mistakes. We just try to do the right thing.”

Hey! Come to our draft party!

Photo: Gus Chan / The Plain Dealer

  • TobaccoRoad

    “We want guys as much as they do, but we can’t make mistakes. We just try to do the right thing.”

    Sounds like Richardson to me..

  • http://www.waitingfornextyear.com/ WFNYRick

    Whether it was for show or not, I am happy to hear him at least acknowledge the possibility of trading UP from 22 to get a guy they like. That kind of move I am all about.

  • Ritz

    Not really… There are 32 players drafted in the first round.

    The Browns could take me at 22. That does not mean I have first round talent. More like 100th round talent.

  • Ritz

    I was refreshing to finally here someone with the Browns say that they need explosive playmakers really bad.

  • Kunal

     See: Tebow, Tim

  • Garry_Owen

    Brady Quinn respectfully disagrees. 

  • Kirk

    That would be a crazy trade to make. If anything they should never give up the 22 pick along with the 15 to move back to 7. Plus, TRich won’t be there at 7 anymore. I’m with you….I’d hate that type of trade.

  • MrCleaveland

    Was Heck wearing one of his bowling shirts today? Or did he go Hawaiian?

  • Kirk

    I agree. The only trade I’d be ok with is if they trade down to #6 and get one of the Rams 2nd round picks and are still able to get Richardson. That scenario would be great as they could then still get a WR at 22 and a RT and OLB in the 2nd round. Use later picks to get CB and depth at OL, WR and DL, etc.

    I really wish the Browns had picked up Eric Winston in free agency as that would have solved their need at RT with a great player and they could have their 2nd round pick for an OLB. Now, unless they trade down they are going to have to pick between RT and OLB at 37. Trading down risks greatly losing Richardson.

    I agree that the way to build is through the draft and it’s not good to overpay for players who might be out of their prime, but giving Winston a 4-5 year deal for what the Chiefs did was not overpaying and he is not a past his prime player. That pick up could have been as good as getting Steinbach was a few years ago. Speaking of which I hope they resign Steinbach! They need to build through the draft but do better at getting a quality starter at a key need position. I don’t consider Frostee a quality starter like Winston could have been.

  • Kirk

    I don’t think he’s talking Taylor as that has been good (although I was surprised he felt he needed to trade up for that), but I’d say he’s lying to himself if he doesn’t consider Hardesty a mistake. I called that bad the minute it happened and unfortunately so far I’ve been dead right about it!

  • Max

    I was thinking he may have been talking about the ’06 draft where Philly traded with Tennessee to get into the top of the 2nd round to grab OT Winston Justice from USC, a guy many had pegged as first round talent (he was 2nd tackle taken in the draft, behind D’Brickashaw Ferguson)

  • Max

    funny you say that, because it had me thinking Claiborne. Like he’s already building the case in the public’s eye for taking a defensive player when the offense is desperately in need of playmakers.

    /tinfoilhat

  • Kirk

    Good report and feedback on Sanu Mgbode. I don’t really know him that well bu tafter reading your comments he sounds like a good possibility. I especially like your comments about his quickness vs. speed. I think quickness is more important to the Browns style of offense than speed is. Ideally, finding someone with both would be great, but I don’t see their offense or McCoy set up for the deep ball. Whereas, getting WR’s who have great quickness to get off the line of scrimmage and create separation….that then have great route running and hands….yep, that’s what I want!

    I think the Browns have to get a quality starter with their 22 pick (or 37) and then hopefully find another great value sleeper pick later in round 4 or 5.

    What are your thoughts on Floyd, Wright and Hill?

    I prefer Floyd over Blackmon and would love the Browns to get him if they could trade up without giving up too much. I think Wright could be a great WR but I’m not totally convinced. Hill is the great reward/great risk player who could turn out great or turn out to be a bust, but will likely take a year or two to develop and the Browns need a quality starter now. He’s tempting but ONLY if the Browns have been able to review game film and verify that he has great hands and can run routes well and create separation. Otherwise he’s just a combine warrior.

  • Kirk

    Hilarious Ritz! That will keep me laughing all day. One of the best and funniest statements/analogies I’ve heard in a long time!

  • dan

    Yes, there are mistakes made in every draft. But in every draft there are 32 players who are better than the other 200+ people drafted. These 32 best players available have “first round talent.” That some of the 32 best players in the draft will be available in later rounds does not mean that they weren’t one of the 32 best players in the draft.

  • http://twitter.com/oribiasi oribiasi

    Yeah, it would have been nice had we used FA like an adult and not shunned it like a child.  It would have freed us up to make better and more logical picks out of a desire to “want” a player instead of a desperate “need.” 

    But, they are WAY smarter than us, right?

  • Garry_Owen

    Aha!  I see what you did there.  Nice pary.  You regained your balance, assumed a new posture, and flanked us by advancing from weakness, through cover and concealment, to key terrain on the high ground – Lee & Jackson-style!  I like it!

    I guess I can’t argue with that.  It’s absolutely true.  (But not “definitional.”)   

  • Ryan

    I’m with mgbode on this one.  As a BigEast fan, I’ve watched Sanu for a couple of years now and thought: I’d love to see him in an Orange helmet one day.

    The guy just catches EVERYTHING and is completely fearless.  He’d be a steal at 37, and a solid pick at 22 I think.

  • BIKI024

    that trade scenario has ZERO upside for the Browns..  you sure you used your value chart on that one Jim??  

  • dan

    Actually, it is definitional. First round talent is “one of the 32 best players in the draft.” I’m not sure what other definition there could be. Certainly nobody responding to my original comment has proposed a different definition.

    Also, it’s “parry,” not “pary.”

  • https://twitter.com/jimkanicki jimkanicki

    yeah i didnt make my point very well.

    let’s say the browns have decided stephon hill is their guy and think he’ll be there at 15.
    let’s say the eagles (or someone else) really want kalil.
    so those teams swap picks and the browns get some extra 2nd rounders.
    THEN, let’s say the vikes have taken blackmon and then rams take floyd and the buzz is that the panthers will take hill.
    couldnt you just envision heckert panicking and overpaying to trade BACK UP in order to get ‘his guy?’

    this is what happened last year:  heckert wet himself because someone was going to take ‘his guy.’  i need not remind you that the pick they gave the chiefs was justin houston and the pick after that was demarco murray.  gabe carimi would have been available had we stood pat.

    anyone remember when belichick came unglued when the jets took kyle brady .. we wound up trading back and got craig powell??  i really dont think belichick has fallen in love with ‘a guy’ in his drafting since.  

    heckert shouldnt either.  but he does.

  • Garry_Owen

    Touche.  Good correction. 

    Brady Quinn still disagrees, though.  I don’t know what to say.  Take it up with him.

    (You do know that I’m just having fun, right?)  

  • https://twitter.com/jimkanicki jimkanicki

    no.
    no-no-no.
    do NOT fall in love with A GUY.
    at least not in the first round.
    you dont get to move up within 1st round with a 6th/7th round pick.
    it’s expensive and the browns have lots of holes to fill and there are lots of other good players to choose from.

  • porckchopexpress

    When dan saw you using Capo Fero he knew he needed to go Agrippa for defense. 

  • dan

    I’m having fun, too. It just doesn’t show up because I’m unable to use Comic Sans font.

  • porckchopexpress

    C’mon, I just looked at Kiper’s super duper big board and he had you graded out in the 78th round.  He said that you could have snuck into the low 70′s had you not spent that weekend baking brownies with Mike Adams.

  • Garry_Owen

    And I hate emoticons.

  • TBuck

    Not the year that NE lost their pick in SpyGate. That year there were only 31 players with first round talent.

  • mgbode

    quick thoughts on the others you mentioned:

    Floyd – less worried about his off-field issues. more worried about his ability to stay on the field.  bad ankles are no joke.

    Wright – made hay by running around like a chicken with no head and waiting for RGIII to find him.  He is fast and quick, but small and he is either Jeremy Maclin or a complete-bust for us.  Too risky.

    Stephen Hill – he accomplished much less than Demaryus Thomas in the same offense, has never run real routes, has a tendency to body catch and we have no idea if he is willing/able to go over the middle.  He could be huge, but likely will be a pure deep guy. 

  • mgbode

    I was sad when he declared he was going back, then Schiano jumps to the NFL and he does too.  I think we’ll need to use that #22 on him to secure him (unless we jump up from #37)

  • mgbode

    that’s how Mangini/Kokinis ended up with the trade-downs for Alex Mack.  I don’t think Heckert approaches the draft the same way.  I hope not. Truly hope not.

  • mgbode

    Bowling shirt but he was eating Ham&Pineapple pizza

  • dan

    I thought it fitting, considering the rocky terrain.

  • The_Real_Shamrock

    We still aren’t discussing Hardesty unless not playing due to injury counts.  Ward took a step back last year do to injury himself but I have faith in him, not Hardesty however.

  • The_Real_Shamrock

    Well I’ll be done not disappointed if I hear Ryan Tannehill’s name mentioned for the Cleveland Browns especially in the first four picks.  The reason you have to wait until the season is because the Browns haven’t drafted a skilled player high in years.  With all of these picks it’s time for them to make an impact by drafting skilled players who can contribute from the moment they are signed.  Use the later rounds for depth.  IMO.

  • The_Real_Shamrock

    I’ll believe it when I see it!

  • Harv 21

    he better have been sipping carrot juice with a side of cumiden. Don’t need additional drama before this crazy draft. Want to see Holms taking credit and backslapping old pals, not pulling the draft levers. 

  • Garry_Owen

    I don’t really do fencing.  I’m just on the Brute Squad. 

  • Garry_Owen

    Agree with you on Tannehill, no doubt. I could see a scenario or two, however, where the Browns draft some great players this year that don’t necessarily make a huge splash in the “skilled position” area but make an immediate impact as bona fide starters. For example, some combination of OT and CB, with a “sleeper” (hate that term, but oh well) WR later on? We might not immediately jump for joy, but it could be just what the doctor ordered.

  • mgbode

    yeah, I’m not counting on Hardesty either.  if he does something, great, but hope we don’t rely on him.  was just noting that pre-draft there was very little about him going to the Browns (from us or media)

  • mgbode

    yeah, last year it was just players having explosive diarrhea really bad

  • porckchopexpress

    You are the Brute Squad.
     
     
    Reason number 6000 I would be a terrible GM; I wouldn’t draft anyone who couldn’t finish Princess Bride quotes during the interview process.  I call it the Fezzilik test mostly because part of the test is having the thought of licking Andre the Giant in your head while I throw quotes at you.
     
     
     

  • porckchopexpress

    No kidding, lets just pray that he doesn’t know that Schmidts all you can eat sausage buffet is just a short drive down 71.

  • porckchopexpress

    I’ve often wondered if the fact that Cleveland has the highest number of bowling lanes per capita was a selling point for him. 

  • mgbode

    INCONCEIVABLE!

  • mgbode

    praytell?  as long as it doesn’t conflict with quaker steak’s all-u-can-eat wing night (is that still Tue?) then that sounds like a stop I have to make on my next visit.

  • Ritz

    They were delicious, I couldn’t help but eat them. Lets just hope my Wonderlic score doesn’t get leaked…

  • Vindictive_Pat

    Oh man… we used to drive an hour each way to Sharon, PA for that.  My best was always pretty weak, but it was still fun.

  • Vindictive_Pat

    I’m with you Max… I have this nagging feeling that I just can’t shake and it’s that Claiborne makes too much sense to Tom Heckert to skip.  He knows how week Sheldon Brown is as a starting CB, he knows that Claiborne is probably the 3rd or 4th guy in the draft from a pure talent standpoint, we know he has no problem taking a CB at that pick, and he knows the wonderlic score means nothing because the best cornerbacks are usually pretty stupid.

  • Vindictive_Pat

    Is this Dan Gilbert?  Sorry, that was too easy… but maybe it was meant to be that easy?  More at 11:00.