May 25, 2013

NBA Lottery Odds Serve As Cruel Reminder of How Unlucky Cavaliers Could End Up

I mentioned this last season, but I want to reiterate this point again this season…

I hate the ESPN NBA Draft Lottery Machine. All it does is reinforce just how cruel the NBA lottery can be. You have a terrible team coming off a tough and frustrating season, and the only thing that can lift your spirits is the ability to draft a phenomenal young talent who can help reshape your franchise.

That’s not how it always works, though. Instead, you might see a borderline playoff team like Milwaukee or Houston jump into the top 3, bolstering their already modestly talented rosters while leaving the hurting franchises to lick their wounds while picking up only slightly better than moderately talented players. Hey, there’s always next year, right?

Of course, a little optimism goes a long way. After all, as Brendan Bowers points out over at Cleveland.com, the Cavaliers have pretty good odds of becoming the first team since the 1993 Orlando Magic to win the top pick in the lottery in back to back seasons:

The Cavaliers will look to do specifically that on May 30th, however, and they’ll do so with a 13.8 percent chance of picking first again this season. Markedly better than the 1.5 percent number Orlando cashed in on just about twenty years ago, with the potential for a similar Point Guard and Center combination in Kyrie Irving and Anthony Davis looming in the balance. As a result of all that tanking, the Cavaliers currently have the third best chance of any team since Orlando to win the Lottery in successive seasons.

So with Brendan’s positivity in the back of my mind, I decided to see just how easily the Cavaliers can win the lottery this season. The results did not turn out as I was hoping.

Last year, when the Cavaliers had the #2 and #8 spots in the lottery, it took me 7 attempts for the Cavaliers to win the top spot. With the Cavaliers sitting at #3 this year and holding just a 13.8% at the top pick, I braced myself for an even longer wait.

My first attempt saw the Washington Wizards win the top pick and take Anthony Davis. Charlotte was next, taking Michael Kidd-Gilchrist. Cleveland came in 3rd and took Bradley Beal. Ok, not a bad start to this thing.

My 2nd attempt gave the top pick to the Sacramento Kings, who took Davis. In fact, all 50 attempts had the first pick taking Davis no matter what, so I’m going to stop repeating that point. If a team picked first, they took Anthony Davis. So Sacramento won the lottery, and Cleveland came in 2nd and took MKG. Feeling even better.

My 3rd attempt was a setback. The Brooklyn Nets won the lottery. Washington took MKG second, and Charlotte took Beal 3rd. This left the Cavaliers at #4 and ESPN has them taking Andre Drummond over Harrison Barnes. I’m not crazy about either player, but I would definitely take Barnes over Drummond. This is the first attempt I’m not happy with (a feeling I would soon get used to).

Finally, on my 4th attempt, the Cavaliers. At 13.8% odds, the Cavaliers should win the top spot roughly every 7 attempts or so. I’m way ahead of schedule here, and I’m really liking the way this lottery machine is panning out so far.

Instead, that was the best I would feel in this. It would also be the last time the Cavaliers won the lottery in my trial of 50 attempts. That’s right, despite having 13.8% odds of winning the lottery, I only achieved that outcome 2% of the times. Houston, who was the best team to miss the playoffs and thus has the lowest odds of winning, won the same number of times as the Cavaliers.

Toronto, the team who served as Cavalier kryptonite this year and ended up with the #8 spot in the lottery, won the top pick 8 times. So despite their 3.5% odds of winning, they achieved that goal 16% of the times in my limited trial. New Orleans, the team tied in record with the Cavaliers, won it 7 times. Sacramento, who beat the Lakers on the last night of the season to drop below Cleveland and New Orleans in the lottery standings, won it 8 times. Charlotte, the team with the best odds, won it 10 times.

So what was the final breakdown of the Cavaliers’ results in this trial? Surely, since they missed the #1 pick so many times they had a bunch of 2nd picks and MKG picks, right? Did I mention yet how much I hate the lottery machine?

The Cavaliers earned the top pick just once, the second pick 6 times, the third pick 7 times, the fourth pick 19 times, the fifth pick 12 times, and the absolute worst case scenario sixth pick 5 times. That’s right, the Cavaliers only picked in the top 3 a total of 14 times out of 50 scenarios.

As for the players the draft lottery had them taking in the 50 attempts, as previously mentioned, the Cavaliers only got Anthony Davis once (2%). They selected my next favorite pick, Michael Kidd-Gilchrist, 7 times (14%). I’ve mentioned this before, but there are only 3 players I absolutely covet in this draft. The third one is Bradley Beal, and the Cavaliers got him a respectable 17 times (34%). The Cavaliers managed to land Davis, MKG, or Beal a total of 25 times, or exactly 50% of the trials. That sounds decent, but when you consider the Cavaliers are in 3rd position, that becomes a little more disheartening.

The Cavaliers took Andre Drummond the most (20 times total). For a team that needs scoring from the wings so desperately, a luxury pick like Drummond (and I use the word ‘luxury’ very lightly here) is less than desirable for my idea of how to rebuild this team. The Cavaliers took Harrison Barnes just 5 times out of the 50 scenarios. He might not be the player some thought he would be, but he’s certainly a much bigger need than Drummond.

So what are we to learn from this? Probably not much. You can pull these scenarios 500 million times, and the results still won’t mean anything. The only thing that matters is that one time the numbers are run. At that point, the results are real and statistics don’t mean anything.

Also, just because the ESPN Lottery Machine says the Cavaliers will take Drummond over Barnes or the Hornets would take Thomas Robinson over MKG, that doesn’t mean that’s what would actually happen. Trying to pre-determine how this will shake out is next to impossible.

So take these results with a grain of salt. It was created to allow fans to have fun playing with the different scenarios and seeing how hard (or easy if you’re a Toronto fan, evidently) it is to have your favorite team win the top pick.

And if you do believe these results are telling us something, then my advice would be to take solace in the fact that Nick Gilbert will likely be representing the team once again and I will be nowhere near the lottery. With Nick Gilbert’s good luck charm aura, maybe we have nothing to fear. What’s not to like?

  • The_Real_Shamrock

    I’d rather see Gee at the two myself but we’ll see what happens.

  • http://www.waitingfornextyear.com Andrew Schnitkey

    I think I am exceptionally unlucky.

  • Yup

    Well, as I said before, I want some aspect of physical freakness from my top 5 pick and Lamb has that over Beal. Btw, I am all about BPA and that means I would have no problem taking another 4 if it presented itself. Funny, why I think Robinson is NBA-ready, I think he’s already basically at his ceiling or close to it (his ceiling being Antonio mcdyess) and I really don’t want the Cavs to take him. I’d rather have Drummond or even Henson because if their much higher upside.

    Btw, what do you think of my concerns about MKG? He really doesn’t do anything particularly well except finish at the basket, which is something, I’ll grant. But again top3 for a guy who may never be more than G Wallace?

  • Jaker

    This is a little offputting, but it still doesn’t make him a bad-character guy. By all accounts, he’s a great kid who was talking about his “brand” after he met with Michael freaking Jordan about life, love and basketball. This doesn’t bother me enough to pass him for Drummond. No way.

  • pete

    Uhhhh

  • BrownsFanSF

    Good thing we’re sending Nick instead of you :-)

  • OldDominion2011

    I just ran the “machine” twice and got Cavs with 1st pick both times; I’ll take it

  • mgbode

    he’s got a good midrange game, he’s not just good finishing at the basket, he is elite for a prospect.  good FT shooter, not a good 3pt shooter.
    ridiculous defense, rangy, motor, and absolutely stuffs every single column of a stat sheet (and shows up the biggest in the biggest games).  Gerald Wallace seems like his floor.

  • mgbode

    no, just putting it out there so people can decide for themselves

  • Brandon Sander

    Personally, I’m kinda hoping we get Drummand… Worse we can do is 6th so we are guaranteed one of the top players.  Obviously, Davis is the one we want but the others wouldn’t be too bad.

  • cleveland__rocks

    lol you mean dan gilbert’s son?

  • Steve

     One, Drummond is 6’10, so it’s not a “OMG He’s 7 feet tall, so he has to be good!”

    Two, the kid isn’t just some skinny big man, he already has NBA size, and great athleticism.

    You’re going to have to wait a couple years (and the Cavs should be in the position of waiting a couple years) but that ceiling is so, so high.

  • Steve

    “The Cavaliers took Andre Drummond the most (20 times total). For a team
    that needs scoring from the wings so desperately, a luxury pick like
    Drummond (and I use the word ‘luxury’ very lightly here) is less than
    desirable for my idea of how to rebuild this team”

    I know I’ve been beating the Drummond drum here, but even if I step back, I can’t help but completely disagree with this statement. One, as the Cavs have seen from recent D-league pickups over the last couple years, wing scoring is not hard to find. I like most of the wings at the top of this draft anyway, but I’d hate to see them take a guy early just for the sole fact that they think they need wing scoring.

    And Drummond is not a luxury, he’s a risk/reward type guy that could really pay off when the Cavs actually need it – in a couple years, and not right now. I know, everyone wants the polished guy who can step in right now and play at or near his peak level. But we’re not making the playoffs next year (unless we get Davis, then I’ll consider the possibility), we need to focus on when we will actually contend. The window hasn’t even begun to open yet, take a few home run swings, and don’t just settle for singles.

  • Yup

    Well, I agree he is elite at finishing at the rim. Quite honestly, it’s his only impressive number. I would not agree about his mid-range game. As Draftexpress warns, his mechanics are really off. I mean, he finishes at the rim at a ridiculous 71% yet his overall shooting % is 49.

    I agree as well that his defensive prowess might be elite as well but I worry that he might be an under-achiever on offense.

  • Browns’ Medical Staph

    I think this is pretty much spot on with regard to Drummond. He has all the athletic/physical tools to be a dominant center. Outside of Davis, I think he’s the only guy in the draft that could combo with Kyrie/Tristan to make us a championship caliber team. 

    But, there are question marks. We don’t know if he WILL develop into a dominant center. And, even if he does, it won’t happen for a few years. I think his best case scenario would be to follow Bynum’s career path. There is the distinct possibility that he won’t ever put it together, though.

    It’s a gamble, but the payoff would be greater than that of taking MKG, Beal, Barnes, etc. 

    I would take Davis and MKG ahead of him for sure, but I’d definitely start thinking about Drummond if it were between him and Beal or Barnes. And I’d roll the dice with Drummond before taking Robinson, Lamb, or pretty much anyone else. It’s a risk, but you have to take some risks if you want to become an elite team.

  • Jaker

    couldn’t have said it better. I live in DC, and the only reason people would root for the Wiz is because they weren’t going to get “caught”

  • Lavendar Larry

    i dont know why everyone is so low on barnes…sure  he didnt live up to the hype he had going into UNC, but the kid can flat out play. He looked great next to kendall marshall and kendall marshall is no where close to being on Kyrie’s level. Barnes is athletic, smart, and can shoot the lights out. Plus, him and kyrie are best friends, even being on record as saying that they refer to each other as brothers. you want to keep your star player happy in cleveland? what better way to do that than bringing in his best friend to be his running mate, and not to mention, his best friend is a really good basketball player.

  • Buie

    I ran this thing once and got New Orleans winning the top 2 picks.  The odds of that are 
    .126 * .011 = 0.001386.