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June 19, 2012In his most recent Monday Morning Quarterback Column, Sports Illustrated’s Peter King (once again) weighs in on the Colt McCoy situation in Cleveland, this time, giving the third-year quarterback a vote of confidence.
“I think the Browns should hang onto Colt McCoy,” writes King. “I do like Brandon Weeden, but how sure a thing is he? And if he plays poorly over the next two years, you’re happier with Seneca Wallace than Colt McCoy? I’m not.”
It was just last week when King had a one-on-one interview with NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell where the two men discussed the concussion and subsequent mishandling which would ultimately serve to prematurely end McCoy’s first full season as a the Cleveland Browns’ starting quarterback. Given McCoy’s record and relative regression in his second season, the Browns went and drafted Weeden to be the quarterback of the team’s future, leaving McCoy’s status in peril and his family’s mouth agape.
In the event that the Browns do look to cut ties with McCoy, a result which many forecast as the inevitable, King thinks that Tom Heckert’s former team is one of two perfect landing spots.
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Would like to keep him, but he needs to tell his dad and brother to refrain from talking about him in the media, creating controversy/distractions. I like him better than Wallace, but only if his head is in it. If he is ok being the backup, I am ok with him staying in CLE. I do not think there is a QB controversy either.
I, for the life of me, do not understand why the Browns would keep Seneca Wallace as a backup and not McCoy. Let the guys fight for the job (I believe competition makes players better?), Weeden is not a sure thing. What is a sure thing is this, if the Browns don’t keep Wallace, who would pick him up? My savvy football knowledge would incline me to think, nobody. But then again, I am just a chef, so who cares.
It’s important to distinguish Case and Brad McCoy. Case fired off a bonehead tweet that imploded on him; Brad spoke up to the media on a valid safety issue in the NFL and helped instigate league-wide change in policy and practice.
Agreed. Brad’s reaction to the safety/treatment of his son was understandable. I would have been upset and raising hell if it were my son too. Case’s tweet was just pointless.
If I’m Colt, I’m thanking Dad for having my back, but asking him to try to be more discreet in the future. Then I’m telling Case to STFU.
Case’s tweet was also not at the right time. If he were already on a plane to meet his new team, I guess a few parting jabs could be made (although i don’t understand why a family member would make them publically)
Honestly, when Wallace admitted to torpedoing McCoy last season because he thought he should be the starter, that told me he was a terrible teammate and should be cut.
Pointless argument. Neither Colt nor Seneca are anything special. Deal the one you can get anything in return for and give Weeden the year to see what he can do. If nothing, then we’ll be in running for Matt Barkley, Logan Thomas, or Landry Jones next year. Oh, the Quarterback Carousel for life.
The fact is…as a 50 year fan of the NFL….Wallace has never won anything in 10 years and won’t in the next several…and no QB the size of McCoy with a noodle arm will ever win anything in the NFL. Hence the drafting of Weedon. At least coming in…Weedon has the size, arm and intelligence….he is the future. Let us move forward and see what he has to offer the football team. As far as I can see…he is the best QB prospect the Browns have had since they acquired Kosar.
Peter King did not say he has the arm strength, did he? How many times did Colt check down too quickly? Seneca is a better back up because he has years of holding clipboard to spring into action and be serviceable for a few downs or a game with I pretense of being a starter. His feet give you another backup dimension that you wouldn’t have game planned for if he has to play mid game. You don’t hear guys in the locker saying give Colt a chance….
I can’t believe so many people let what a relative of a player say bother them. Wait, I forgot many of those same people are fans of the football team who are touchy on almost any topic these days due to a severe lack of winning.
Personally I’d like to see McCoy retained not only because of Wallace but more because it will be the uncharacteristic thing for the football team to do. I think it would be a dual swallowing of the pride on the part of McCoy and the football team in a way.
One of the few sports writers who make sense–Colt McCoy was no worse than Joe Montana in his first two years. Since 1 in 3 or worse quarterbacks picked in higher rounds fail–hold on to him.
How many 28 yr old QBs drafted in the first round have ever failed?
Dump Wallace, who is 30+ and his $2.5 million contract and keep McCoy, who is 23, for his $.5 million+ contract. The math is simple and Wallace has been a clusterflop for his entire 10 year career!
the game against pittsburgh?
they scored 6 points…
Colt never had a chance…Poor surrounding cast….He has lots of poise and is a very intelligent Quarterback….Give him a shot with the newly drafted players…..He paid his dues and deserves a shot thi season…..Go Browns!
Colt never had a chance…Poor surrounding cast….He has lots of poise and is a very intelligent Quarterback….Give him a shot with the newly drafted players…..He paid his dues and deserves a shot this season…..Go Browns!
I’d like to compare Colt to the statistics of familiar quarterbacks, active and retired, who have won the Super Bowl.
Aaron Rodgers Rookie Season (2008*):
GS/GP: 16/16, QBRec: 6-10-0, Cmp: 341, Att: 536, Cmp%: 63.6, Yds: 4038, TDs: 28, Int: 13, QBRate: 93.8, Skd: 34
Aaron Rodgers Career Statistics (2005-2010):
GS/GP: 47/54, QBRec: 27-20-0, Cmp: 1038, Att: 1611, Cmp%: 64.4, Yds: 12723, TDs: 87, Int: 32, QBRate: 98.4, Skd: 124
*This was not Aaron’s rookie season. For the sake of preventing an argument, please just go with it for now. It was virtually impossible for Aaron to get any playing time behind Favre. At the very least, Aaron’s 2008 season is more relevant than his actual rookie season in 2005.
Drew Bree’s Rookie Season (2002*):
GS/GP: 16/16, QBRec: 8-8-0, Cmp: 320, Att: 526, Cmp%: 60.8, Yds: 3284, TDs: 17, Int: 16, QBRate: 76.9, Skd: 24
Drew Bree’s Career Statistics (2001-2010):
GS/GP: 137/138, QBRec: 79-58-0, Cmp: 3145, Att: 4822, Cmp%: 65.2, Yds: 35266, TDs: 235, Int: 132, QBRate: 91.7, Skd: 184
*Similar to Aaron Rodgers, Drew only played in one game his rookie season so I found it more relevant to post his 2002 stats instead.
Tom Brady’s Rookie Season (2001*):
GS/GP: 14/15, QBRec: 11-3-0, Cmp: 264, Att: 413, Cmp%: 63.9, Yds: 2843, TDs: 18, Int: 12, QBRate: 86.5, Skd: 41
Tom Brady’s Career Statistics (2000-2010):
GS/GP: 143/145, QBRec: 111-32-0, Cmp: 2996, Att: 4710, Cmp%: 63.6, Yds: 34744, TDs: 261, Int: 103, QBRate: 95.2, Skd: 244
*Yet again, I found it more relevant to post Tom’s 2001 season as his “rookie” year seeing as how in 2000 he only attempted 3 passes in one game the whole season.
Peyton Manning’s Rookie Season (1998):
GS/GP: 16/16, QBRec: 3-13-0, Cmp: 326, Att: 575, Cmp%: 56.7, Yds: 3739, TDs: 26, Int: 28, QBRate: 71.2, Skd: 22
Peyton Manning’s Career Statistics (1998-2010):
GS/GP: 208/208, QBRec: 141-67-0, Cmp: 4682, Att: 7210, Cmp%: 64.9, Yds: 54828, TDs: 399, Int: 198, QBRate: 94.9, Skd: 231
Ben Roethlisberger’s Rookie Season (2004):
GS/GP: 13/14, QBRec: 13-0-0, Cmp: 196, Att: 295, Cmp%: 66.4, Yds: 2621, TDs: 17, Int: 11, QBRate: 98.1, Skd: 30
Ben Roethlisberger’s Career Statistics (2004-2010):
GS/GP: 98/99, QBRec: 69-29-0, Cmp: 1766, Att: 2800, Cmp%: 63.1, Yds: 22502, TDs: 144, Int: 86, QBRate: 92.5, Skd: 274
John Elway’s Rookie Season (1983):
GS/GP: 10/11, QBRec: 4-6-0, Cmp: 123, Att: 259, Cmp%: 47.5, Yds: 1663, TDs: 7, Int: 14, QBRate: 54.9, Skd: 28
John Elway’s Career Statistics (1983-1998):
GS/GP: 231/234, QBRec: 148-82-1, Cmp: 4123, Att: 7250, Cmp%: 56.9, Yds: 51475, TDs: 300, Int: 226, QBRate: 79.9, Skd: 516
Brett Favre’s Rookie Season (1992*)
GS/GP: 13/15, QBRec: 8-5-0, Cmp: 302, Att: 471, Cmp%: 64.1, Yds: 3227, TDs: 18, Int: 13, QBRate: 85.3, Skd: 34
Brett Favre’s Career Statistics (1991-2010)
GS/GP: 298/302, QBRec: 186-112-0, Cmp: 6300, Att: 10169, Cmp%: 62, Yds: 71838, TDs: 508, Int: 336, QBRate: 86, Skd: 525
*Favre’s rookie season in 91 was in Atlanta where he only played in 2 games attempting 4 passes with 2 of those being intercepted. His first year in Green Bay is more relevant to this discussion.
Troy Aikman’s Rookie Season (1989):
GS/GP: 11/11, QBRec: 0-11-0, Cmp: 155, Att: 293, Cmp%: 52.9, Yds: 1749, TDs: 9, Int: 18, QBRate: 55.7, Skd: 19
Troy Aikman’s Career Statistics (1989-2000)
GS/GP: 165/165, QBRec: 94-71-0, Cmp: 2898, Att: 4715, Cmp%: 61.5, Yds: 32942, TDs: 165, Int: 141, QBRate: 81.6, Skd: 259
Steve Young’s Rookie Season (1985*):
GS/GP: 5/5, QBRec: 1-4, Cmp: 72, Att: 138, Cmp%: 52.2, Yds: 935, TDs: 3, Int: 8, QBRate: 56.9, Skd: 21
Steve Young’s Career Statistics (1985-1999):
GS/GP: 143/169, QBRec: 94-49-0, Cmp: 2667, Att: 4149, Cmp%: 64.3, Yds: 33124, TDs: 232, Int: 107, QBRate: 96.8, Skd: 358
Joe Montana’s Rookie Season (1980*):
GS/GP: 7/15, QBRec: 2-5-0, Cmp: 176, Att: 273, Cmp%: 64.5, Yds: 1795, TDs: 15, Int: 9, QBRate: 87.8, Skd: 15
Joe Montana’s Career Statistics (1979-1994):
GS/GP: 164/192, QBRec: 117-47-0, Cmp: 3409, Att: 5391, Cmp%: 63.2, Yds: 40551, TDs: 273, Int: 139, QBRate: 92.3, Skd: 313
*Joe’s rookie season in 79 was very similar statistically to his second year in 1980. However I decided to post his second season due to his 273 pass attempts compared to his 23 attempts in 79.
Terry Bradshaw’s Rookie Season (1970):
GS/GP: 8/13, QBRec: 3-5-0, Cmp: 83, Att: 218, Cmp%: 38.1, Yds: 1410, TDs: 6, Int: 24, QBRate: 30.4, Skd: 25
Terry Bradshaw’s Career Statistics (1970-1983):
GS/GP: 158/168, QBRec: 107-51-0, Cmp: 2025, Att: 3901, Cmp%: 51.9, Yds: 27989, TDs: 212, Int: 210, QBRate: 70.9, Skd: 307
Joe Namath’s Rookie Season (1965):
GS/GP: 9/13, QBRec: 3-5-1, Cmp: 164, Att: 340, Cmp%: 48.2, Yds: 2220, TDs: 18, Int: 15, QBRate: 68.7, Skd: N/A*
Joe Namath’s Career Statistics (1965-1977):
GS/GP: 130/140, QBRec: 62-63-4, Cmp: 1886, Att: 3762, Cmp%: 50.1, Yds: 27663, TDs: 173, Int: 220, QBRate: 65.5, Skd: 109*
*QB sacks were not accounted for until the 1969 season.
Dan Marino’s* Rookie Season (1983):
GS/GP: 9/11, QBRec: 7-2-0, Cmp: 173, Att: 296, Cmp%: 58.4, Yds: 2210, TDs: 20, Int: 6, QBRate: 96, Skd: 10
Dan Marino’s* Career Statistics (1983-1999):
GS/GP: 240/242, QBRec: 147-93-0, Cmp: 4967, Att: 8358, Cmp%: 59.4, Yds: 61361, TDs: 420, Int: 252, QBRate: 86.4, Skd: 270
*Dan never won a Super Bowl, but he is widely considered one of the most productive QBs of all-time