May 24, 2013

NBA Draft News: Bobcats No. 2 Pick for Sale

June 8, 2012 by 38 Comments

Having not landed the first-overall selection and the chance to draft the franchise-changing power forward Anthony Davis, the Charlotte Bobcats will in fact look to move the No. 2 pick in the upcoming NBA Draft.

Bill Ingram from Hoopsworld confirms that Michael Jordan’s Bobcats have put the second-overall selection on the market, but are presently “asking for the world” and wish to include either the much-maligned forward Tyrus Thomas or journeyman center DeSagana Diop in a potential transaction. Thomas, a freakish athlete, has long been a disappointment since being drafted fourth-overall in 2006 and is due roughly $26 million between the 2012-13 season and his free agency in the summer of 2015. Diop, the 30-year-old one-time center for the Cleveland Cavaliers, has a $7.3 million player option for this coming season.

It is assumed that any team willing to trade up to the second-overall spot would do so to take Davis’ teammate at Kentucky, small forward Michael Kidd-Gilchrist.

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  • Albert

    This is a perfect opportunity for us to follow the OKC model and take on short term bad contracts in trade for draft picks while we rebuild. Get this done Grant, and get MKG

  • Natedawg86

    Just to take a contract and 4th pick?  Do it. 

  • mews

    Can you even imagine Beal and Barnes? :tingles: :knowit’snotgonnahappendoesn’thurttodream:

  • BisonDeleSightings

    “…but are presently “asking for the world” AND wish to include…”

    It would require a whole lot more than taking on a bad contract.  I imagine “asking for the world” means something like the Cavs’ #4, #24, and a 2014 #1 in exchange for the #2 and Diop.

  • Mark

    Are you under the impression that we can get the #2 pick without giving up the #4 pick? Um…no.

  • Mark

    If it’s just a bad contract and the #4 pick, then I say yes.

  • mgbode

    in other news, Bradley Beal measured taller than 6’4″ with a 6’8″ reach at the combine.

  • mgbode

    also, I assume they meant Ty ‘AND’ Diop, not ‘OR’.

    If it’s OR why would anyone choose Ty’s longer contract over Diop whose $7mil salary is actually about the going rate for a 1-dimensional center who is just on the roster to guard/foul the bigger centers in the NBA (see Kwame Brown contract last year)?

  • Steve

    But really, how much of someone else’s money would be willing to spend?

  • Steve

     Because you have to give up less to get #2 + Thomas than #2 + Diop. They’re not giving up the #2 to take a contract off their hands. You’re giving up a lot, and then you’re going to still take some crap back too.

  • Steve

     Unless he was under 6’2″ I have to think that this really didn’t matter. He’s still undersized at the 2, and not a PG. He’s a good player, but I don’t think he’s an All-Star – Eric Gordon, not exactly, but close. He’s going to rack up a 18-20 points a night with below average to maybe average defense. A solid player. I still think you have to go for the home run here though. You’re still going to need another elite player, and not just a solid one to be a championship contender.

  • Harv 21

    Charlotte is obviously hoping someone will fall head over heels for a player. At #4, Cavs can get a fine player. Chris Grant should just monitor who nibbles at their bait, and he can make a move if Charlotte’s demand is reasonable. If Charlotte’s demands are ridiculous the Cavs’ pick itself might become trade bait for the right team in love with a player.

    Really glad we have #4 and not #6. Both impact player available and movement options available.

  • mgbode

    if Eric Gordon could stay healthy, he would make a few allstar games.

    anyways, I think people see Beal’s size and under-rate his defense.  the wingspan mentioned above is big, as his his ability to get rebounds and show great effort on defense.  I think he will be at least an average defender with the potential for more.

    also, the reason that I like him is that he appears capable of being a Wade (6’4″) or Harden (6’5″) scorer.  if that ends up being the case, then noone would be questioning the pick.

  • mgbode

    yeah, that makes sense, just a poorly worded ‘rumor’

    anyways, I’m guessing they continue to “ask for the moon, the stars, and a few rainbows” and nothing ever comes of it.

  • Steve

    Being able to jack up a bunch of shots on a sub 30 win team doesn’t get you an All-Star game.

    Beal is not Wade-quick, there are very few people that size who are, so let’s end that discussion right there.

    Harden really broke out this year when he shot nearly 50% from the floor and 40% from 3, rates that he showed in college. Beal, for as pretty as his stroke looks, hasn’t shown he can shoot that efficiently. Right now Beal projects more to last year’s Harden, and not this year’s.

  • mgbode

    if Gordon was inefficient with his scoring, then I would agree.   he’s a 45% overall shooter w/ 37% from 3pt land and a 80% FT shooter.  all while battling injuries.

    He gets to the FT line well and that helps his overall effeciency line as he is very good at scoring many more points than shots taken (career:  13FGA/18pts per game)

    and none of the above matters because he can’t stay healthy.

  • Vindictive_Pat

    That’s why I like him as well.  I think you’re going to see his percentages get better in the NBA.  He’s going to become a better 3-point shooter.  He’s going to improve as a defender.  He’s already a gifted scorer who gets to the foul line.  He rebounds well for a shooting guard and he’s tough.  I never thought he looked particularly undersized even if the measurements were disputed.  I thought he looked like he had good size.  But maybe that was because he played with Irving Walker and Kenny Boynton.

  • mgbode

    it’s possible (likely even) that Beal cannot become Harden or Wade (Wade is really his best case scenario).  

    and, last year’s Harden is not bad.  it’s not super-amazing that you want out of a pick this high, but it’s very useful.  I think that Beal will amount to more than that though.

  • Steve

     I didn’t say Gordon was inefficient, but that Harden has become incredibly efficient. If Beal ends up being a 50-40-80 guy, then yes, you can thrive with him as an undersized 2. But those are tough numbers to reach, and he couldn’t even do it in college.

    And I agree that a moderately efficient Harden (or healthy Gordon) is very useful. But not the star that you really need. If you can assure me that we can get our Westbrook (the #2 piece) next year, then fine, get your #3 in Beal now. Otherwise, I want to take a swing with the upside of Barnes or Drummond.

  • The_Real_Shamrock

    I’m having RG3 flashbacks!!!!!!

  • mgbode

    you said “Being able to jack up a bunch of shots on a sub 30 win team doesn’t get you an All-Star game”

    chucking a bunch of shots to me means inefficient as opposed to efficient scoring.

  • steve-o

    MKG is the real deal and would be the ideal player to pair with Kyrie. He may never be a prolific scorer but his all around game and effort is exactly what a team needs for a championship run, which we have seen at KTY.

    I’d trade our 4, 24, 34 and take on a bad contract for the 2nd pick. Getting another key piece is far more important than extra draft picks or near-term cap space. But I don’t think it will take that much. I’m guessing MJ wants to target Barnes or TRob at four and will take any decent offer from us.

  • BisonDeleSightings

    Well said.  The Cavs will have the opportunity to get a very good (potentially great) player at #4.  I think they should only consider moving up if there is someone they’re absolutely dying to have, and they don’t have to mortgage the future (Redskins-style) to do it.

    Personally, I suspect that MJ wants Harrison Barnes and he knows that #2 is too high to take him.

  • cmm13

    OH WOW…DOES GRANT OR GILBERT KNOW THIS?? 

    HAS ANYONE CALLED THEM?!?!  DOES ANYONE HAVE THEIR NUMBERS?!?!

  • mgbode

    Next time Gil’s (yeah, that’s how tight we are, I call him Gil’s) and I are kicking back and sipping on whiskey and shooting the breeze about the latest happenings in our ‘in-crowd’ world, I’ll make sure I drop this nugget on him.

  • cmm13

    “Gil’s and MGB’s”…name of the next casino in town?

  • mgbode

    why does he get top billing?

  • The_Real_Shamrock

    ‘Cuz ur just a billionaire blogger?

  • cmm13

    you mean “billionaire blog commentor”….even lower.

  • floydrubino

    We should trade our #24,#34 and next years #1 to get their #2 pick this year and go T-Rob and either Beal or MKG and call it a day. Then draft some one like Draymond Green in the 2nd and get 3 players that will play on a good team. Then trade TT and next years #2 pick to get in mid 1st round to get Moe Harkless. Oh wait no one would even give a mid 1st rounder for TT because he’s a bust.

  • BrownsFanSF

    It sounds like NO wants to do the same sort of thing with their 10th pick.  I actually kinda like the idea of moving up, throwing in the 24th and 32nd (or maybe Sac’s instead of 24 in necessary) and giving Thomas a couple years to reinvent himself.

    Then maybe do some shuffling with NO, maybe Sac’s protected if we don’t need it for the 2nd overall, maybe Gee, Boobie and if necessary our late pick next year and take Ariza and Oak’s contacts off their hands.  Again, maybe Oak gets it together, maybe he doesn’t.

    Now your line-up looks something like Kyrie, Lamb (if we’re lucky) or Rivers (if they make it to ten Ariza if they don’t), MKG, TT, Andy.  Ariza, Thomas and Oak off the bench (if Rivers or Lamb don’t make it to ten, Tyler Zellar is an option).

    Just spitballin’, but it sounded good in my brain.

  • mgbode

    how did we end up with lamb, rivers, and mkg?

  • mgbode

    hey, we all gotta fill our days with something :)

  • Steve

    Since we need to nitpick here, no it doesn’t. Chucking up a bunch of shots is not necessarily 02-03 Ricky Davis. You can get plenty of opportunities because you play with less talented teammates but that doesn’t mean you shoot inefficiently.

  • Steve

    The ideal player to pair with Irving is a big man who can play the pick and roll or a shooter who can spot up when Irving drives. MKG is neither. He’s a good player, and would probably be a more than fine fit with Irving, but he’s certainly not the ideal player to pair with our young PG.

  • Steve

    A guy who was 20 last season, went 8 and 7 with pretty solid defense is far from a bust. Not a star yet does not mean bust

  • BrownsFanSF

    lol, Lamb or Rivers.  Depending on if Lamb makes it to ten.  Zeller is another good possibility for us there

  • mgbode

    sorry, misread it.