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June 3, 2012While We’re Waiting… Concussion discussion, second round options and right handed bats
June 4, 2012Ohio State reacted quickly to arrests made over the weekend–
“The attorney for Ohio State football players Jake Stoneburner and Jack Mewhort told The Dispatch last night that coach Urban Meyer has suspended his clients pending the outcome of their legal problems.
Stoneburner and Mewhort were charged by Shawnee Hills police with obstructing official business, a second-degree misdemeanor.
The two, along with Austin Barnard, who is not a football player, allegedly were caught urinating between buildings near the Bogey Inn about 1:30 a.m. Saturday while walking back to Stoneburner’s family home at Muirfield Village, site of the Memorial Tournament.
All three allegedly ran when first confronted by a police officer shining a flashlight in their direction, but Stoneburner and Mewhort reportedly stopped soon afterward.”
Buckeye fans and critics alike will be watching to see how Urban Meyer handles the situation. Both players will likely be reinstated without much punishment from the team itself once the legal case is handled. Let’s face it, in the long list of reasons to get arrested- this is fairly tame. Dumb, but tame.
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supposedly, one of the cops giving chase fell and broke his thumb and the local police are determining whether or not to try and roll that into the charges somehow. Funny that my hatred for OSU is apparently superseded by my hatred of the police who slap on mickey mouse charges because they are embarrassed by the fact that they can’t run without breaking a digit. People who pay taxes should find this annoying, no matter who they root for. Now the public might have to pay for extra court time for them to plea down because of some bs charge because a man cannot run without falling. What a crock
Funny, my love for OSU is superseded by my love for the law. Crazy as it all seems, it’s the law. If any injury results from the commission of a crime, even to law enforcement, the person committing the crime incurs the criminal liability for the injury. Although certainly ridiculous on first impression and not very comparable in terms of severity, it’s the same principle that supports “felony murder” charges. It’s a good law. Stoneburner and Mewhort shouldn’t have run from the cops. They did, they broke the law, and in the process of pursuit a police officer got injured. “But for” their commission of the crime, however miniscule, the officer would not have been injured. They caused it, they should be responsible for it. It’s not going to foist great cost on society to enforce this solid legal principle (should the police pursue the charge).
I agree with what you wrote. They should not have run; had they just accepted what they did (and show me a red/white/blue blooded American man who hasn’t done this) they would have probably been let off with a harsh talking to.
Now they’re in the deep you know what.
Well, they’re certainly in “you know what,” but it’s probably not all that deep. It’s been a while since my crim law class, but while the broken thumb aggravates the charge, I doubt it’s all that much. I could be wrong, but I’d guess it’s still pretty low-level misdemeanor stuff.
I meant with Urban Meyer/The Buckeyes/The NCAA. Sure, with the “law” they won’t be sent to Attica but how Urban handles this/makes an example of them should set the tone for the team and in the wake of their previous issues and this being their bowl-banned year, I fully expect him to cast the gauntlet down on these two.
Ah. Got it.
Yeah, it’s a tough one. Meyer almost HAS to make an example of them, based on the recent OSU headlines and troubles. I doubt he would “chuck the glove” in any other situation, since it really is a fairly minor offense on the scale of potential criminal activity.
That’s ridiculous. Some incompetent pig breaks his thumb running (yes running, as in something my 6 year old nephew has managed to get down just fine) and these two are now responsible? If an officer was to witness someone jaywalking and then proceed to cross the street to write them a ticket, but is struck by a car and killed is it the fault of the jaywalker that the officer didn’t look both ways?
I may get carpel tunnel while at the office today, should I sue the recipient of the e-mail I am sending when I feel the pain?
ahh yes, solid points, and I understand it all from a legal standpoint, but is a pursuit always necessary? Sometimes the pursuit is more dangerous than whatever “crime” is being committed. Of course, people have debated for years whether that is even a material argument because if no crime were committed, then the question of necessary vs. unnecessary pursuit would never even be raised, so in the end, it all falls back onto the perpetrators, but I just think these kinds of things get a little silly sometimes. That is all
You lost me with “pig.”
To answer your silly hypotheticals, no, the law doesn’t work that way. I’d explain, but I gather you don’t care.
Don’t like the law? Call your state Rep.
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If an officer was to witness someone jaywalking and then proceed to cross the street to write them a ticket, but is struck by a car and killed is it the fault of the jaywalker that the officer didn’t look both ways?”
Actually, they might try and make a run at exactly that. Whether or not it would stick depends on a number of factors, I can see a plausible scenario or two where the jaywalker could be charged, at the very least.
I’m not commenting on whether that is right or wrong, just saying that that could actually happen. If I had the time I’d do a Lexis-Nexus search
“Don’t like the law? Call your state Rep.”
Come on now let’s not get too silly.
All you need to do is see the story about to guy who was giving a homeless man in a wheelchair a dollar, which was dropped in transition and the homeless man proceeded to pick up. An “officer of the law” pulls the man over and gives the guy a ticket for littering.
Similar to what is going on with these OSU players. If they can charge you with it, they will.
They did not cause the injury, the incompetence of the police officer caused the injury. What kind of a cop falls and breaks his thumb in a chase? Common sense people, instead of looking at the donut eater who can’t run, we blame it on two guys who were just peeing outside.
If he would have tripped and had a spike go through his head, should they be liable for manslaughter?
Yes, actually, they might be.
I bet you listen to police scanners while yelling NAIL EM BOYS!!!
While I really haven’t agreed with a single thing Garry has said in this thread I still think this comment is a personal attack (albeit a lame one) and has no place here.
Stick to the issues buddy.
I’m interested to see if more facts come out. Because the article here says that the kids “stopped soon afterward”. It seems like this “chase” didn’t last long. Did the officer slam the cruiser door on his thumb getting out? I wonder specifically how he broke it. I can’t find it anywhere.
Ok that was a lame attack and for that Garry I apologize but I don’t think that these kids (if indeed they are charged with anything to do with a cop breaking their thumb) deserve to be prosecuted. The story reads that they ran but stopped soon afterward. I understand being strict but this does not warrant anything more than a slap on the wrist from the law.
possibly the first time I’ve ever agreed with you…Meyer should totally make an example of these two…I mean what do we have to lose?
just obey.
I’m certainly not rooting for the other guys!
Law and order every time. That’s me.
Touche.
See, I’m not that bad. You just need to use common sense.
And yeah, they should be disciplined because its not like they can be any less bowl eligible this year. Make a clear decision and stand by it with these two numbskulls and set a good precedence.
I say sit them out for the whole season not like. It matters anyway
You, my incomprehensible friend, are not an attorney, and by saying what you did, you have commited the crime of unlicensed practice of law, Oh St. 4705.01.
Dont like the law? Call your state Rep.
Actually, I am; but thanks for a cool story.
It took you that long to find a citation? You might want to next research what constitutes the “practice of law.”. Good luck! (With your LSAT prep, too.)