August 2, 2014

NBA Trade Rumor: Cavs Discussing Trade to Land Andrew Bynum in Magic-Lakers Deal

HoopsWorld’s Alex Kennedy dropped a bombshell on Twitter about an hour ago with this nugget of information:

Kennedy later expanded on that initial tease, posting an article with more details. In a possible trade that would send Dwight Howard to the Los Angeles Lakers, the Cleveland Cavaliers would end up with Andrew Bynum, and the Orlando Magic would receive a number of picks and prospects. There were no further specifics about what the Cavaliers would give up in such a deal.

Kennedy cites sources close to the situation, but also says “while no trade is imminent, the talks are ongoing.” Kennedy is the only individual currently reporting discussions between the three teams.

In other well-circulated Howard-to-LA reports, David Pingalore (a former Cleveland reporter) of WKMG-TV in Orlando also cited sources Friday night that said the All-Star center will likely end up in Los Angeles. Pingalore’s sources appeared to be fairly adamant in saying that just “some crossing of T’s and dotting of I’s is only left” for Howard to land in LA with Kobe Bryant. Pingalore didn’t mention any possible trade partners for the two teams in his article.

7:33 p.m. Updates: Both ProBasketballDraft and Fox Sports Ohio’s Sam Amico have confirmed through sources that trade discussions are taking place between Orlando, Cleveland and the Lakers. Let’s start first with the new information from ProBasketballDraft:

This account also said the Cavs are looking for some type of confirmation that Bynum would extend. It also said that Cleveland’s Tristan Thompson and LA’s Darius Morris would be two key prospects that could go to Orlando.

Later, Amico confirmed through his sources that a deal is being discussed. These sources also reiterated Cleveland’s emphasis to make sure Bynum would extend with the team. One of Amico’s folks also said that “Cavs, as usual, being a big pain” in their trade dealings, as he reported earlier in the week about the possible Brooklyn Nets situation.

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  • Kekoa

    If this happens, Kyrie will be a Cleveland Cavalier for life, also Chris Grant deserves a statue of his likeness in front of the Q.

  • anonymous

    If this happens, I will poop my pants for joy.

  • Foghorn Leghorn

    This would be great provided that we have a legitimate chance at signing Bynum long-term (and dont just get him for the one year left on his contract), and that we dont give up EVERY draft pick for the foreseeable future. We’ve gone that route before and all know how that didnt work out too well.

    Irving, Waiters, Bynum, Varejao, Thompson, Zeller……need a legit SF and we could be decent.

  • floydrubino

    If Chris Grant can get this done I will gladly change my opinion of him.

  • thenoclist

    He better be planning on signing an extension, there’s no point in giving up our future stash of draft picks for a 1 year rental of him.

  • SDA

    I actually called this a few days ago. I told my step son if we were involved in the Nets trade scenario then why wouldnt we be involved in L.A. And if howard was going there why not Bynum to us. Especially after he listed us as a possible destination.
    Gotta tell ya, I think this puts us on the fast track!!!

  • Lunch

    Before I poop my pants for joy, or make a Chris Grant Statue next to The Q, I want to know more details about what the Cavs will lose in this trade. I don’t want to lose any of our young core players in this transaction.

  • PainInTheAsdrubal

    I would have to assume the Cavs would be giving up Andy V. and at least one 1st rounder.

    It’s still a great deal.

  • Kekoa

    They can have Tristan Thompson and anyone not named Kyrie or Dion Waiters, A top 3 center at 24, that is priceless, we were watching RYAN HOLLINS last year.

  • Kekoa

    He already said Cleveland was on his short list, plus we could offer him the most money once he’s on the team, its a no brainer.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Joe-Murphy/30101207 Joe Murphy

    More likely the Cavs two 1st rounders this year, next year’s first rounder, and take on 3 of the Magic’s bad contracts. Magic would not want to pay Andy during a full rebuild.

  • Brett

    Before anyone gets too excited, you do realize that the reason the Cavs would be in this deal is to send assets, i.e. draft picks and young players, to the Magic, right? This means that some combination of Waiters, Thompson, and Zeller would be going to Orlando, along with some of our upcoming 1st rounders, with us getting Bynum and probably a bunch of long term salary from Orlando.

    Not saying it’s not worth it, especially not knowing who/what exactly we’d be dealing, but just keep that in mind.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Joe-Murphy/30101207 Joe Murphy

    In past trade proposals, future draft picks were being sent to the Magic, of which the Cavs are particularly rich in

  • Kekoa

    Can’t trade Waiters or Zeller for 30 days. This will get it done: Varejao,Thompson, our 2012 1st, LA’s 2012 1st we own, and Sacramento future 1st plus Devin Ebanks and Darius Morris from the lakeshow to magic. No big deal. Not finding Bynum in the draft, lol

  • mgbode

    joke version: does Orlando regret giving us Andy that much?
    non-joke: Bynum for a year with Irving would be fun. hopefully, we have an idea of if he will actually give us a shot at re-signing him.

  • Brett

    Didn’t realize there was a 30 day restriction on trading guys just drafted, and I know the Rockets’ 3 picks from this year have been discussed in those deals. Also, is Varejao on the last year of his deal? The only reason I could see Orlando wanting him is if he can clear cap space.

    I agree about the picks, with 2 or 3 picks you’re unlikely to find a Bynum. I just want to make sure we can put enough other pieces in place around them.

  • Lunch

    I don’t want Tristan Thompson to leave, nor anyone else at the moment. Especially if TT develops into a 20/10 player within a few years.

  • Kekoa

    From what i read Magic GM Hennigan is very high on Andy, 2 more years on deal, and feels he can flip him down the road for more assets.

  • thenoclist

    His “short list” was a prepared list of teams his agent drew up that have the most cap room. Mortgaging your future for a head case who may or not yearn for a bigger and brighter spotlight is hardly a no brainer. If he agrees to an extension though, I’m all in.

  • Kekoa

    I’m sorry but Tristan Thompson is 8/6 guy now, best case 16/10, if you can get Bynum and be assured he resigns, you do it, and never think about Thompson and what he can be again.

  • Kekoa

    You are right about the agent, however, I believe there is genuine interest. He see’s what Kyrie is and how special he will be and he knows the value of a PG to team with instead of being the 2nd option to shoot first Kobe.

  • Dee P

    Lunch, I hear you, especially because TT’s work ethic and character are off the charts when compared with Bynum. However, if TT never does become that 20/10 guy, then we passed on a great opportunity. Grant’s gong to earn his money here.

  • Jaker

    Agreed

  • R

    Wouldn’t be surprised if Lebron opted out after this season to join Irving, Bynum, Waiters and Zeller. That’s a longterm dynasty compared to Dwyane Wade’s knees and Ray Allen.

  • Lunch

    I checked Bynum’s stats on basketballreference.com. In my opinion Tyler Zeller could duplicate his stats if given the oppertunity to do so. So why trade for Bynum, especially if he doesn’t resign with the Cavs, when we could have Zeller for the next 2 – 4 years?

  • Jack

    What does this even mean?

  • Breakfast

    My question is will Dan Gilbert accept him back onto the team? I think there is still some bad blood between the two of them.

  • Jack

    Dude, it’s not just stats. Bynum was never featured on that team like he could’ve been with Kobe’s astronomical usage rates and Pau also sitting down there. Bynum is the best offensive center in the game. He can score against anyone.

    AND…he’s a much more impactful defender than Zeller could ever be, especially at the center position. Zeller is not even in the same ballpark when it comes to size and length at the rim.

    Your last statement is evaluating through a very very very narrow lens.

  • Breakfast

    Hmm.. Your post brings up an interesting question. Do GMs suffer a penalty, financial or otherwise, today, for a missed opportunity that occurred 2 or 3 years ago?

  • mgbode

    varejao is not on the last year of his deal, but considering what he provides and the rate of $$ to FA big men, it’s a very team-friendly deal.

  • R

    Correction, he can opt out after 2013/2014.

    I’d say it’s all but a certainty Lebron chooses Irving/Bynum/Waiters over Bosh and a D Wade’s 33 year old knees in a couple years.

    That’s as long as Waiters is anything close to what we expect and Bynum is healthy.

  • Kekoa

    @Jack agree 100% as for @lunch If you really think Bynum and Zeller will have comparable careers, I don’t know what to tell you. And it’s not like were Houston swinging for the fences with Howard, Bynum has said he wants to play here, he would be dominate, arguably better than Howard with Kyrie as his PG.

  • boomhauertjs

    This could explain the Cavs’ interest in Scola, who would become the starting PF.

  • FearTheRoo

    Although I don’t think this trade will ever happen, we would have to be guaranteed to have Bynum sign an extension after the season. If there’s just a “chance” he would, the risk is not worth it. The only time you take a 1 year rental is if you’re making a run at the championship, which we are far away from.

  • Kekoa

    Duhon, Big Baby and or Hedu. Plus the majority of our 1st rounders. But they DO what Andy from what I hear.

  • Kekoa

    want*

  • gruvedaddy

    Key word-IF. IF Jaret Wright would have turned out as good as Pedro Martinez then the non trade for Pedro wouldn’t still hurt so much to this day. Cleveland fans need to stop thinking all their young “prospects” are future Hall of Famers. Bynum is an established center at only 24. This would be a major stepping stone in our rebuilding, even if we give up T.T., Andy or Zeller.

  • Kekoa

    Pg- Kyrie Irving, Chris Duhon
    Sg- Dion Waiters, Daniel Gibson
    Sf- LeBron James, Alonzo Gee
    Pf- Luis Scola, Glenn Davis
    C- Andrew Bynum, Tyler Zeller

    Who says no? lol but forget Lebron, I would love to win the 1st title without him.

  • Lunch

    & @Brett well, we shall see how both of these guys will turn out as time goes on. I’m just not 100% sure that Bynum is the best option for our team right now.

  • Kekoa

    PREACH! @7008bd0590ac223e451aad543652f396:disqus No one wants to listen.

  • R

    Without a doubt. Having team like that playing 50 games per year at the Q would pair pretty well with the $300 million dollar Casino being built across the street.

    “We sort of think that Phase II and the Q, that corner right there the Huron Street corner there, that it could sort of be a Times Square-ish type of corner of Cleveland.” – Dan Gilbert

  • Jack

    That would be a terrific coup…go from a frontcourt of Andy and TT to Scola and Bynum in one offseason.

  • Lunch

    Looks like you might get your wish, Kekoa.

  • Jack

    I hear that; got confused by “this year”…

  • cmm13

    Wow. Just wow.

  • Jaker

    2 dislikes for agreeing with “only do it if we are assured he signs”? man you guys are tough

  • D

    Decent? Are u nuts? Kyrie, Dion and Bynum are “big 3″ caliber players. Get Bynum and this team is more than decent. Our core four will most likely still be here. Add Bynum and this is a great team, ESPECIALLY in the East.

  • Drummer1922

    Holy F. That is all.

  • D

    I’m not giving up Kyrie, Dion, TT, or Tyler. But everyone else is available. Bynum is a top talent.

  • Steve

    I know TT is no Bynum, but I would not want to give him up. He had a respectable rookie year with 8 ppg and 6 rpg only averaging 24 min a game. Considering the rest of the team that was around him, I think that he has a very bright future. I would definately part with Andy though. He seems to get injured alot and it’s only a matter of time before his motor slows down.