May 18, 2013

While We’re Waiting… Training Camp Updates, Selling at the Deadline and Olympic Hoops Change?

While We’re Waiting serves as the early morning gathering of WFNY-esque information for your viewing pleasure. Have something you think we should see? Send it to our tips email at tips@waitingfornextyear.com.

This is not what I want to hear- “Schwartz Off, and Winn Thrives: Toward the end of practice, the offensive linemen and the defensive linemen got together to run some one-on-one drills with each other. Most of the offensive linemen were holding their own, but Mitchell Schwartz really seemed to be struggling, getting bullied at least three times. The alternating continued today, with Oniel Cousins taking the first-team reps at right tackle. Meanwhile, one defensive lineman really stood out in the drills — rookie sixth-round pick Billy Winn. He was fierce as he, along with John Hughes, played on the second-team defense.” [Pokorny/Dawgs by Nature]

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“That’s not to say that the Indians couldn’t use an upgrade in the lineup, as they certainly could, but for as much talk as there has been about the inability of the offense to produce consistently, the glaring hole in the back of the rotation – for today AND tomorrow – burns brighter than any for me. And if the Indians are looking to make a move for a player that is not a rental player, adding a pitcher that could fit into the rotation to stabilize that rotation because this team simply won’t be able to even think about sniffing contention into August with Lowe and Tomlin going the way that they are right now. Because “right now”, that duo has the 2nd and 4th worst ERA among starters in the AL in the past 30 days (and Ubaldo has the 6th worst) and for the Indians to go on the run that they’re going to have to, any effort to sustain a winning streak is going to be stopped by one of those two (or three) or both (or all three).

Reading that last bit about how dreadful the rotation has been and seeing these last couple of games in Minnesota, you might think that the case is slowly being laid out here to “sell” to attempt to re-load for another day. But the two most desirable pieces to move would be Shin-Soo Choo and Chris Perez and while I think a case could be made to trade one (depending upon return), unless they Indians are netting a player that immediately steps into their lineup or rotation when they arrive, I can’t see how that could be taken as anything but a step-back for this team that still looks set up to compete in the coming years because (particularly in the case of Choo) as Castrovince noted, “the Indians would be extremely hard-pressed to replace the production provided by Choo, especially given their organizational outfield abyss. I’d imagine it would take a huge haul to prompt them to move him.” [Couineau/The DiaTribe]

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Some old school ‘most likely’ yearbook type stuff- “Most likely to not make news: Joe Thomas. Yawn. Go get yourself another Pro Bowl season, you monster.

Least likely to read this article: Trent Richardson. The dude is 22, has the weight of a passionate fan base on his shoulders, looks like he works out for 21 hours per day, and has to chase around his two daughters. He does not have time to give half a fart about what I’m typing. I kind of like that about him. Also, I bet his daughters are adorable and could beat me up.” [Nye/Dawg Pound Daily]

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Here’s an option for the Cavs- “Derrick Brown! Although viewed as a tweener, he spent much of his time at the three last year, where he out-produced his small forward opponents with a PER of 15.4 compared to their 12.3 (numbers from 82games.com). Limited minutes from his prior two seasons tell a similar story. For a Cavs team routinely poisoned by a lack of size and athleticism on the wings, Brown is the antidote. At 6’ – 8” with great speed and a penchant for electric dunks, he would look great on a Cavs team looking to run. He offers nothing for floor spacing, but I am not too concerned about that. For their careers, Gibson shoots 42% from deep, Kyrie sits at 40%, Casspi – 36%, and Gee – 35%. Waiters flashed NBA range at Syracuse and Cleveland added floor stretching bigs in Zeller and Leuer. Each of the metrics used in the Meeks / Batum comparison consider Brown a completely fine NBA player. A big, athletic and reasonably productive small forward for cheap?!? What am I missing here?!? Sign him up for 2 years and $5 million!!” [Hetrick/Cavs the Blog]

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“All due respect, David Stern has run out of good ideas…. But the NBA’s once-wildly-popular dictator is done. Finished. He’s run out of ideas on how to grow the game at home, so he’s floating outlandish concepts aimed primarily at growing the game abroad. Exhibit A: The suggestion to turn Olympic basketball into a 23-and-under tournament for NBA players and create an NBA-and-FIBA-controlled World Cup of hoops.” [Whitlock/Fox Sports]

  • https://twitter.com/jimkanicki jimkanicki

    hey jim kanicki on cle-dot-com!

    if any of you wondered about my namesake, cle-dot-com has a story on him. i picked him because he was a pretty good player on the browns i grew up with and also — a couple great pictures of him are out there.

    here’s a link to the business he runs (ran?) in ashtabula.

  • Harv 21

    I wouldn’t worry too much about Schwartz struggling early in pre-season, or even early in the regular season. Few good offensive linemen dominate from the very start of their careers like Joe Thomas. This kid may be very good even if he looks foolish for a while.

  • Vindictive_Pat

    The “Pinkston Approach”? For a fan base that has been waiting a long time for a championship, we sure aren’t very patient. Players are considered terrible after 4 starts in the pros.

  • BuckeyeDawg

    You mean we’re not supposed to freak out when a guy gets beaten a couple times on the 2nd day of practice? What fun is that?

  • https://twitter.com/jimkanicki jimkanicki

    i can understand sponsors, agents, and 12 nba players wanting to keep the status quo on the olympic basketbal team but not writers. are they that craving of access? do writers desperately want into melo after-party?

    olympic basketball is like watching wku play lsu in football. i’m completely rooting for anyone but USA. 95% of the world is. dont know but i bet that over 50% of the US is.

    mens soccer does the u23 thing allowing 3 ‘veterans’ on the team too. works fine. (wish the women’s soccer would do that too. that team, like men’s b-ball, seems to be more and more out of touch with realness too.)

  • mgbode

    since when do they get 4 starts?

    And here are the LDEs Schwartz will have to play against his first few weeks in the NFL:

    Babin (Philly)
    Dunlap (Cinci)
    Mario Williams (Buffalo)
    Baltimore – reshuffling after Suggs injury – TBD
    Tuck (NYG)
    Dunlap (Cinci)

    That’s a tough “getting to know the NFL” opening slate for an OT.

  • mgbode

    i’m using this as my Olympic rant jumping off point:

    I watched white-water canoe slalom last night (on a man-made white-water course rather than some type of natural, unpredictable water). this weekend I also watched speed-walking (yeah, speed-walking). then we have professionals making a mockery of the long-time overall amateur nature of the Olympics in soccer, tennis, and basketball.

    what I have not seen is a single inning of Olympic baseball. it seems that the Olympic committee still does not believe this is a worldwide sport anymore (mostly because the controlling body is largely European whereas baseball is wildly popular in both America’s and Asia).

    I understand that the Olympic committee is still throwing a hissy fit that MLB refuses to shut-down for 2-3 weeks like the NHL did to put it’s professionals at-risk for the purposes of making the Olympics more money. However, I believe MLBs offer to allow minor-leaguers play in the Olympics would still stand, if, you know, the Olympic committee would even bother to try to add baseball back into the summer games.

    ok, rant is over for now :)

  • Harv 21

    I’m an unabashed fan of the way the Steelers always seemed to use one draft pick in their first three rounds on an o-lineman, who would sit for a year or two and then get plugged into the starting lineup, finished and ready to go. And loved how Mel Kiper’s face would drop after predicting all the skill position players left on the board they were about to take. (Kiper doesn’t make that mistake any more, but it took him about 10 years to catch on).