May 19, 2013

Oakland Pitching > Cleveland Pitching – Another Depressing Weekend in Wahooland

I honestly don’t even know to say anymore.

The destinations change, but the results stay the same. July 26th seems like a decade ago. That was the day the Indians beat Justin Verlander and the Detroit Tigers to move within three and a half games of first place. Since then, the Indians have turned into the Bad News Bears. They can’t hit. They can’t pitch. The can’t field. The mental mistakes come way too often. The talent deficiencies which we all didn’t want to believe existed back in April and May, are so unbelievably obvious that I am mad at myself for being so fooled.

This team had so many “ifs” when the season started and all of them had to come together for them to win the AL Central. Let us take a look back at some of them in bullet point format:

  • If Justin Masterson and Ubaldo Jimenez can pitch like front of the rotation starters they need to be. Did that happen? Nope.
  • If Travis Hafner can regain his 2004-2007 form and stay healthy. Did that happen? Nope
  • If Grady Sizemore can come back from multiple surgeries and be his old self again. Did that happen? Nope. He didn’t even play in a game!
  • If Carlos Santana can take that next step towards stardom. Did that happen? Nope.
  • If they can get anything out of the left field platoon of Johnny Damon and Shelley Duncan. Did that happen? Nope.
  • If Casey Kotchman can hit .300 at first base like he did last year. Did that happen? Nope.
  • If the back end of the rotation guys Derek Lowe, Josh Tomlin, and Jeanmar Gomez can eat innings and provide a solid bridge to the pen. Did that happen? Nope
  • If they can get anything from Jack Hannahan at third, and if that didn’t work, they could have Lonnie Chisenhall be the guy. Did that happen? Nope.
  • If the all-left-handed lineup could become a good idea and work. Did that happen? Nope.

All of those things needed to occur, in addition to solid seasons from their core players, Shin-Soo Choo, Santana, Jason Kipnis, Asdrubal Cabrera, Michael Brantley, Chris Perez, and Vinnie Pestano.

When you see that all out there in front of you, it makes you wonder how you could have been so optimistic.

I admit it, I drank plenty of the Kool Aid. But after watching yet another weekend series in which the Indians were thoroughly dominated by small market brethren Oakland, it just gives you more fuel to the fire for those calling for sweeping front office changes.

We all know that A’s GM Billy Beane has the reputation of being the best at his craft in turning a bottom five payroll into a contender. The guy finds diamonds in the rough and surrounds them with great young pitching. That is the thing the Moneyball movie glossed right over. While Beane put together a group of misfits in the field, he also had a three-headed monster of young, homegrown, stud pitchers leading his rotation in Tim Hudson, Mark Mulder, and Barry Zito (the book of course mentioned them). The three combined to make 99 starts, going a combined 57-21.

This season, the A’s were supposed to be one of, if not the worst team in baseball in 2012. Instead, thanks to great young starting pitching, the A’s are 65-55 and just a half game back of one of the two AL wild card spots. Sunday’s starter, Jarrod Parker, was a 2007 first round pick of the Arizona Diamondbacks, who was acquired in an offseason deal along with their young all-star reliever Ryan Cook, for starter Trevor Cahill and lefty reliever Craig Breslow. Parker completely shut down the Tribe for eight innings, allowing just six hits. Cook closed down the 7-0 A’s win.

Parker’s rookie season has been a success, with a 3.48 ERA.

Friday night the A’s sent out another one of their kid arms, lefty Tommy Milone (4.04 ERA), added in the Gio Gonzalez deal in the offseason. Fellow rookies Dan Straily and AJ Griffin (seven starts, 2.42 ERA, 0.96 WHIP) have both come up with fanfare attached and have looked good in their small sample sizes. Veterans Brandon McCarthy (2.68 ERA) and Bartolo Colon (3.43 ERA, who the Indians passed on two winters ago only to see him have a career renaissance in New York and Oakland) have been solid as well.

This isn’t even mentioning their former young ace Brett Anderson who is coming back from Tommy John surgery sometime this month.

Milone (four runs in five innings – all on Shelley Duncan’s grand slam), Colon (eight innings, one run), and Parker (eight innings, no runs) made the Indians look silly this weekend in a sweep that looked a lot harder than it actually was judging by the scores. The Tribe starters on the other hand once again left a lot to be desired.

Zach McAllister was the best of the three, yet he was staked to a 4-0 lead and gave all four back within two innings. He went six, allowing those four runs, striking out six and walking just one. The thing is, as Manny Acta put it Friday night, you can’t ask a kid who was not expected to be at or even near the top of your rotation and started the season in AAA to be pitch like an ace every single time out.

Corey Kluber didn’t respond well to an Asdrubal Cabrera throwing error in the third a night later. Instead of bearing down, Kluber went into panic mode, allowing a walk, a double steal, a two-RBI double to Josh Reddick, and a two-run homer to Yoenis Cespedes. With the way the offense has been swinging the bats in close games, the game was all over at that point for all intents and purposes.  The A’s took that game 8-5, but the Tribe scored four runs in the ninth inning when the game was already in the bag. How Jhonny Peralta/Casey Blake of them to get their hits when they were down by seven runs in the ninth.

Then there is the resident “stopper” Masterson who got his chance to try and salvage a win in this series yesterday. Instead, he pitched into the sixth before getting lifted with his team trailing 7-0. The A’s, whose offense is Tribe-esque, battered him around for nine hits and those seven runs.

I will say this until I am blue in the face. If you can’t pitch, you aren’t going to win. Period. Especially when your offense is asleep at the wheel.

The Indians have now lost five in a row, seven of nine, and 18 of 22. They are now 10-26 since the all-star break, and with the Royals sweep of the White Sox, the Tribe has fallen into fourth place in the AL Central. Next stop is the basement.

Look on the bright side folks, with the way they are playing, a top eight draft pick is all but assured!

Really at this point, what positives can I possibly talk about? This is depressing. Worst of all, there are six weeks left in the season and we are watching an epic fold job right before our very eyes.

  • MrCleaveland

    Make it stop.

  • https://twitter.com/jimkanicki jimkanicki
  • mgbode

    “I honestly don’t even know to say anymore. -TD”

    well said.

  • Shadow_play

    Ugh, every aspect of that video is awful, from the fan to Perez’s actions to the other Tribe’s high-fiving, to the blatant misspelling in the youtube title to the comment section of the link.

  • mgbode

    AJ Piece-of-zynski will hold that title until the day he retires.

  • https://twitter.com/jimkanicki jimkanicki
  • https://twitter.com/jimkanicki jimkanicki

    no.
    there is objectively no one more boorish or loathsome in mlb.

  • maxfnmloans

    aaaaaand to top it off, there was Chris Perez doing Chris Perez things:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eXo-eathEgE&feature=player_embedded

    the fan was a douche, but Perez should have never even engaged

  • The_Real_Shamrock

    Don’t feel bad TD you weren’t the only one fooled at the start of the season and my guess is you won’t be next year either. People like to lay the blame on the pitching as the biggest reason this team is bad but they can’t hit either. When is the hitting coach going to be fired?

    One of my favorite lines other then the guys here just needing to play better was the sales job on Kotchman. Sadly Kotchman hasn’t even been the biggest problem but I loved the “his glove will save as many runs as he’d drive in” um okay great if he’s on a team like the Rangers or Angels.

  • Natedawg86

    can we turn that into a promo video for the indians?

  • The_Real_Shamrock

    Way to go Perez you really told them! Can’t wait to hear Shapiro and the rest come out in his defense for this one.

  • The_Real_Shamrock

    And yet sadly he’d be one of the better Indians if he were on this team. How boorish and loathsome is that?

  • https://twitter.com/jimkanicki jimkanicki

    hell, i’m just waiting for waitingfornextyear to post an entry on this.

    god knows if ‘Browns Cut Kicker Wolfert’ is a story, this is too.

  • JRS19

    I’ve been a vehement defender of Perez all year, but this is just pathetic. Dude is emulating Kenny Powers, yet rather than garnering laughs is instead becoming John Rocker v2.0.

  • Natedawg86

    What are the odds the Indians end up dead last in the AL at the end of the season?

  • The_Real_Shamrock

    I was thinking the same thing. I’m interested in reading their take on the latest Perez incident.

    Btw was that Ezequiel Carrera that came to the defense of Perez at the end? I didn’t recognize him either, lol. If so that just made it worse.

  • mgbode

    pretty sure Vegas took that bet off the board

  • The_Real_Shamrock

    Pretty good since all that stands between them and last is Minnesota. Cleveland is 54-67 and Minnesota is 50-70 now…fourth in the AL Central now, oh my.

  • MrCleaveland

    Well, a fine is certainly in the works. I wonder if he’ll get suspended as well.

    Looks like it’s time for Perez and Cleveland to part ways. Package him and Choo in big off-season trade.

  • maxfnmloans

    what if…our closer wasn’t a complete jackass?

  • maxfnmloans

    Fireworks! All you can eat seats! A kiddie fun area!

  • The_Real_Shamrock

    It’s really a shame you have to sit through nine innings (if your lucky) before those fireworks shows.

  • Natedawg86

    he would prob be awful. Closers need an edge

  • Natedawg86

    Our window for contention was open, then a crane came in and bulldozed it

  • Andrew B

    I think it was Esmil Rogers. Just a guess, video was blurry.

  • sgtkickarse

    This has been an awful season and has led me to completely lose what little hope I had for the future of the team. Until there is a new Front Office and especially scouting dept. we are doomed.

    I don’t really think ownership will change any time soon. But they really need to think long and hard about bringing back the current management team in place. They have all (Shapiro, Antonetti, and Acta) failed at their jobs and need to go.

  • clevefan4life

    You have summed up my thoughts exactly.

    In case you had any hope left, our AAA club honored Lebron James at the game yesterday. This ownership and front office become more clueless with each passing day.

  • Steve

    There are guys in MLB who beat their wives/girlfriends and use anti-semitic slurs. Your hatred is over-the-top and your arguments are grossly exaggerated.

  • https://twitter.com/jimkanicki jimkanicki

    relativism strikes again.

    you should write a cleveland sports blog.

  • Steve

    Where did I suggest Perez’s behavior was ok? You’re on a mission to vilify Perez for being an idiot who likes to hear himself talk. Annoying? Sure. Loathsome? That’s a bit strong. The best move is to ignore him, and show contempt for the truly vile people out there.

  • https://twitter.com/jimkanicki jimkanicki

    if you said his behavior is wrong i missed it. however you seem to have a problem with me pointing out that it’s wrong, so i inferred you think it ok. i dont get what your issue is with me. i’m saying perez is an ass. i’m saying it loudly here at wfny primarily because this site’s proprietors have seen fit to bury this story.

    anyway, in terms of ‘missions,’ i’m more on a mission to call-out fans and blogs who support this ass. i see in hoynsie today that perez has no regrets. indeed why should he so long as scott sargent is around to write him ‘open-letters’ encouraging him not to change? as long as craig lyndall says the behavior is ok because he’s not a lawyer? there were two more bloggers/reporters coming to perez’ defense (that i saw) yesterday. thank goodness i didnt stream cleveland radio yesterday.

    btw, ‘truly vile’ is a bit loaded. boorish is the word i used and i find it unacceptable in general. ‘we are living in a society.‘ your suggestion to ignore it tacitly condones it. i disagree with that tack.

    or we could just tell each other to take our dicks out of our mouths since everyone here seems to be cool with that way of keeping it real.

    everyone of us has a responsibility here and it is a simple one — your responsibility is simply to find the behavior wrong. if that is too much to ask of the fabric of our civilization, i fear for it.

  • Steve

    It’s better this way. Staying around .500 again would just legitimize the hatchet job the front office did and allow them to stay the course. Every loss makes it more likely they will do what needs to be done and blow up the roster (and hopefully the front office too) and start over. This team was doomed the minute they hitched their wagon to Grady Sizemore and Ubaldo Jimenez.

  • Steve

    If you’re going to get pissy over every person who says dumb things, you’re never going to get much accomplished. Pick your battles wisely. The best way to shut people like Perez up is to not give them the platform.

    And you seem to have an odd understanding of the facts and this discussion. I didn’t have a problem with you pointing out that it’s wrong, that you think so makes me assume you have no interest in actually understanding the other side of the conversation, and you just want to bang the table. I’m pointing out that your criticisms are laughably over-the-top. There are MLB players who do some truly awful things. Calling out fans for being last in attendance for a first place team is not one of them. Your responsibility is to grasp the realities at hand here and not just pile on a guy whenever its easy to.

    And in this thread, you have called him the biggest jackass, and find no one more loathsome, and said nothing about the people who support them. So I’m having a hard time understanding how the latter, and not the former, is actually your mission.

  • Steve

    *said nothing about the people who support him*

  • https://twitter.com/jimkanicki jimkanicki

    pfft. i said he’s the most loathsome mlb player. he responded to heckling by telling fan how much money he made and then tell fan to take dick out of mouth.

    so if you can find a more loathsome mlb player i’d like to hear who it is. chris perez is objectively loathsome.

    youre starting to move this into the personal without knowing anything about me… and i’m starting to want to reply in kind. so i’ll wrap this up here.

    good day sir.

  • The_Real_Shamrock
  • Steve

    When you misrepresent the argument and opinions stated, there’s not much choice but to question why. Sorry that you don’t like being called out on that.

    Elijah Dukes
    Delmon Young
    Every player who has picked up a DUI, and the many, many more who have gotten lucky that they haven’t been stopped yet.

    These people are genuinely cruel and/or demonstrate a lack of care about the well-being of others around them. How are they not more loathsome than someone who says stupid things every once in a while?