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August 21, 2012
This morning when I got to my computer, I saw a link from one of my favorite Cleveland area bloggers/tweeters @ClevelandChick. She tweeted out the annual “Mindset List” put out by Beloit college that gives the perspective of today’s average matriculating college freshman. It points out that a college freshman who will graduate in 2016 would share their freshman year with someone like Justin Bieber or Dakota Fanning should they choose to go to college. They also point out that this generation of kids might know who Kurt Cobain is, but they never shared its living air with him. If that wasn’t depressing enough, imagine if you knew Robert DeNiro as Greg Focker’s father in-law instead of from The Godfather or even Cape Fear. Of course, that led me to want to tie it into Cleveland sports. So here’s are a few from the WFNY crew.
- The Browns were owned by Art Modell for only two years of their lifetime
- They might know Julio Franco… because he played with the Indians 1996 and 1997, not in the 1980s.
- Bernie Kosar was never a player for the Browns in their lifetime.
- Brad Daugherty played his entire Cavaliers career before they were ever born in all likelihood.
- The voice of the Browns, Nev Chandler, died in August of the year they were born.
- They most likely don’t ever remember that WTAM used to be WWWE or that channel 8 used to be CBS instead of Fox.
- To them, the Indians have always been in the AL Central and might not have any memory of the Milwaukee Brewers being in the AL, let alone the AL Central.
- They most likely know Clay Matthews… the linebacker… who plays for Green Bay.
- They might know Manny Ramirez, but they certainly don’t remember him fighting for a starting job with Wayne Kirby.
- They probably know Michael Jordan, but not for his shot over Craig Ehlo. They know him as the most famous Washington Wizard.
- And who could ever forget Danny Ferry, the GM of the Cleveland Cavaliers? Never mind that he played here.
We could go all day, I’m sure. Good luck to the class of 2016. Hopefully as time progresses we’ll at least have some good memories. Wouldn’t it be great to say that the class of 2034 thinks life is easy because there were championships every year since they were born in 2012.
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Who’s Robert De Niro? But seriously, I’m class of 2014 and most of these are true for me as well…
Bah kids what do they know with their rappity rap and fancy sneakers!!!
Get off my grass ya hooligan! 😉
Some of these are unfair. I’m 10yrs older than these folks and these are absurd points of reference.
2. Why the hell would I remember Julio Franco was on the Indians when I was 0-6
5. Don’t know who that guy was; too young to care about the dudes not playing on the field
6. again way too young to care, and funnily enough if all the local TV and Radio stations went dark today I wouldn’t be impacted at all.
You may not care, but that’s sort of the point here: for many of us, the thought of not knowing/caring about this list is difficult to comprehend. Fairness has nothing to do with any of it.
… and my point is I graduated from HS in 2002 not 2012.
Nev Chandler, Casey Coleman and of course Herb Score. Use that thing called “Google.”
The Mindset List was originally created for professors of incoming freshmen to help them from using outdated references. Not sure why you have to be so negative about it. It just means you have more in common with incoming freshmen than you do with old codgers like me. Enjoy it while it lasts.
They were not old enough to have seen the Indians play at Municipal Stadium. How could that have been left off?
Personally, I think the lack of interest in someone being “The Voice of the Browns” is a reflection of an outdated media reference.
When they graduate from college, they’ll be calling Mike Holmgren for playoff tickets. No, wait….
Thanks for helping! That’s why we have comments. 🙂
I told my son that the first Browns game I went to was the 88 Christmas Eve playoff game vs the Oilers. He paused before looking at me and asking “Edmonton had a football team?”
Um, you just proved the point of the Mindset List. Thanks for playing!
“Too young to care.” Yep, that’s the point.
12. The Browns QB rivals they will remember fondly (or not so fondly) are Ben Roethlisberger, Carson Palmer/Andy Dalton, and Joe Flacco instead of Bubby Brister, Boomer Esiason, and Warren Moon.
13. Didn’t get to enjoy Bob Golic’s cameo on Saved by the Bell: The College Years…
14. Don’t remember Alvaro Espinoza’s bubble-gum hat antics.
Figured I would add a few for fun.
Cool take guys. I enjoyed this list (and I’m not even that “old”).
Funny, I’m just 2 years older than you and I do remember/care about all those things.
Then again, I’m not a self-centered, spray-tanning, Affliction T-shirt-wearing, “Men at Work”-loving loser.
Ha haaaa! Point of reference disconnect for me is that “Men at Work” was a pretty good Australian new wave band who had three or four hits in the early ’80s.
Dont think they know what Richfield Coliseum is either. Like, literally, have never heard of it. Genius planning by the Cavs on building that relic in the middle of nowhere…