May 24, 2013

While We’re Waiting… Go Two More!

While We’re Waiting serves as the early morning gathering of WFNY-esque information for your viewing pleasure. Have something you think we should see? Send it to our tips email at tips@waitingfornextyear.com.

Um, I love this- “Ever since Meyer entered the coaching profession, he has harped on mental toughness. Pushing players to their furthest limit and beyond exhaustion has been a hallmark. But it isn’t a sadistic practice; rather Meyer wants his team to be prepared. That philosophy was on display at the Buckeyes’ first practice this fall, as the head coach willed his players to go that extra step.

“The objective today is plus two,” he yelled. “I’m not concerned about the rah rahs. Plus two means we’re going two steps beyond. Whatever is asked of you, two steps beyond.

“I’m here to tell you it’s going to help you win. You’re either going to buy in or you’re not. Plus two is our deal. Plus two, plus two. When the whistle blows, what do you do, two more steps. Coach asks you to go 10 yards, you go 12.

“I don’t need any rah rah. You’re not impressing anybody. You want to impress somebody, go plus two. Let’s have some fun.” It’s a different kind of fun than most of us are used to, but nonetheless the players have bought in to Meyer’s tough-love system.” [Rowland/Eleven Warriors]

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“Yes, guys can get hurt. And that is a risk. But that risk is there in every play, every practice, every workout. Phil Taylor got hurt lifting weights. Miami lost offensive tackle Jake Long in a practice. Same with Chris Gocong. Protecting them when they’re so young and need so much work sends a message of entitlement and arrival way before anyone on this offense has arrived. Sit Tom Brady in the preseason and it doesn’t matter. Sit Weeden in the finale and it doesn’t seem to help anyone. Yes, the argument can be made that a coach’s job is at stake, and if he loses a key player it could cause further problems with job security. But if a team isn’t ready for the opener and struggles because of it, that is just as damaging.” [McManamon/FSO]

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Ebay item of the month- “Dec. 27, 1964 Cleveland Plain Dealer Sports Section

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Playing the Percentages in Baseball is looking for some Cleveland fans to respond to a survey.  [Inside the Book]

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Finally, Chris’ 53 man roster projection- [Pokorny/Dawgs by Nature]

  • MrCleaveland

    A mock roster. Version 3. I like it.

    But my mock says that Thad Lewis will stick and either McCoy will be traded or Wallace will be cut.

  • JNeids

    I’m sure I’ll get some backlash for this, but when did OSU become the 4th Cleveland team? I realize they have more going for them than most of the actual local teams, and I admit I am a UMich alum, but when I started coming here it was 99% Tribe/Cavs/Browns, 1% anything else. Lately it’s been about an even 4-way split.

  • mgbode

    I think it was around the time that Paul Brown became HC for the Buckeyes

  • mgbode

    don’t understand the harping on game4 of the preseason. from Shurmur’s comments it seemed like the OL is banged up and needs the game off and he’s not willing to risk Weeden behind the backup OL.

    how is that not reasonable?

  • mgbode

    I agree with that one along with some others:

    Thad kept – Wallace cut
    Adonis kept – Oggy cut
    Smelly kept – Alex Smith cut
    Gerhart kept – Daniels cut
    Dockery kept – Usama cut

    Schaefering vs. Owusu for a roster spot may come down to this week of practice and the Bears game as well.

    And, we are light on LBer depth. Really need at least 6 if not 7 (not only for depth but for STs as well). If we can find someone cut from another team to just fill-in on STs for now and be depth later on, then we have to do it as our 6th guy (it’s not Spears or Jacobs).

  • http://twitter.com/bbo13 B-bo

    Have you been around much during previous football seasons? During basketball season? The Buckeyes are covered frequently, as they should be. They are Ohio’s team, regardless of the city one calls home.

  • http://twitter.com/RickWFNY rick grayshock

    We certainly don’t write about Ohio State as much as the Cleveland teams. We are hoping to expand our Buckeye football coverage a bit this season, but that certainly won’t be at the expense of the other teams.

    I include a fair amount of Buckeye coverage in WWW specifically because we don’t have a lot of coverage for them.

  • JNeids

    Typical Buckeye hubris. Just because one calls Ohio home does not mean one has to follow/love/obsess over OSU sports.

  • Garry_Owen

    Backlash! Severe backlash!
    Seriously, though, I’m not sure what you think the solution should be. It’s football season. OSU is, without a doubt, the most popular college football team in NE Ohio and Cleveland. What’s happening in Columbus is news in Cleveland because Clevelanders (not all, as you note, but certainly most) care about it. I suppose WFNY could increase the number of posts about the other Cleveland teams or stop writing about OSU in order to “even out the percentages,” but why?
    (And fwiw, I really hope that your wolverines smack down ‘Bama this weekend. I’m not holding my breath, but it would be great to see. I want to see the Big 2 have a classic, undefeated match-up at the end of the season. Of course, I want you to mourn at the end of that OSU game – but I’m pulling for your team this weekend.)

  • mgbode

    what? no, no no no no no. we cannot have anyone cheering for that team up North. I don’t care if they are playing Saban and it’s “good for the Big10.”

    If the Buckeyes aren’t on TV, then my favorite team remains “whoever is playing UM”

  • Garry_Owen

    Don’t get me wrong, when ‘Bama wins, I’ll be delighted at my core – but bear with me: How much greater is it to see michigan leave the field having their undefeated season’s hopes crushed by the Buckeyes than it is to see them walk away as repeat losers? There was no greater OSU/UM game in my memory than that 2006 game for that reason. I want to see that again.

  • Garry_Owen

    Oh, and don’t worry, there will be no “cheering.” Only “pulling.”

  • http://twitter.com/bbo13 B-bo

    Is it hubris because 100% of Ohioans don’t love the Buckeyes? Hardly. I feel perfectly comfortable in saying that the majority of Ohioans who follow college sports support the Buckeyes, because tOSU is the major program in the state. Unlike states like Florida, Texas, or California, Ohio has not produced a college program with the consistent success at the highest levels that the Buckeyes have. So those who follow college sports are more likely to be Buckeye fans, that’s all. Not sure that’s hubris on my part so much as bitterness on yours. I live in Florida now, but I don’t rail against folks down here who assume that Floridians must love one of the big 3 programs in this state.

  • JNeids

    The hubris label was directed at the “Ohio’s team” label. I don’t really disagree with anything you said in this last comment.

  • JNeids

    Not necessarily looking for change, therefore no recommended solution. I was really just stating an observation.

  • mgbode

    true but the best scenario still involves the Buckeyes putting the final nail in a 0 win Michigan season :)

  • JK

    That’s silly stuff.. I pray UM wins by 50. I dont understand the other side of that logic.

    Wouldnt you rather beat UM who is undefeated, one loss, two loss, etc. rather than a watered down RichRod 6-7 loss UM team? It’s better for the rivalry, it’s better for the conference, it’s just better.

  • mgbode

    i would rather Michigan lose every game, be in complete turmoil, and crush them while hysterically laughing about the whole thing, but that’s just me.

  • http://twitter.com/bbo13 B-bo

    Fair enough. I didn’t intend the the “Ohio’s team” thing to come off that way, but certainly understand it being interpreted as such.

  • http://twitter.com/bbo13 B-bo

    This isn’t the SEC, and thank goodness for that. I’m a fan of the Ohio State Buckeyes, not the B1G. I wish our conference mates–especially TSUN–nothing but losses and misery every year, with few exceptions*. I enjoy beating them whether they are undefeated or 0-for the season.
    *the Florida Gators deserve to be crushed by all. In the event they play TSUN, I actively root for a Bane-style field renovation or a scoreless tie.

  • JK

    So then every year we play them it means nothing we just dominate a team that’s not even fun to play anymore cuz theyve had however many straight 0 win seasons? No thanks.

    I get the App St stuff, & it is funny, but it’s better when UM is good.

  • Harv 21

    Like this comment. Buckeyes are not wfny. They are fairly recent national champs and always in the mix, a kind of cliche fake-o scholastic NFL player factory tainted by scandal, and certainly not part of Cleveland sports. I’m not against some stories when things are real slow, but not too much.
    [OK, take a breather JNeids, they'll start chasing me now]

  • Natedawg86

    Don’t click the articles. If they are not producing as many CLE articles, or the quality is decreasing, I hear what you are saying but I do not believe either is the case.

  • Natedawg86

    Buckeyes may not be WFNY in the sense that their season is over half way through, or that they are forever stuck in or below mediocrity, but every year they have a chance to be #1, so every year we are WFNY while still in contention

  • JNeids

    I never said the quality is decreasing. I still check into WFNY every hour on the hour to see if a new article has been posted, I just don’t click on anything OSU related.

  • JNeids

    To be fair, I usually read WFNY from my phone, therefore in mobile mode, so without clicking on a link, I can’t tell if it’s featured story or a headline. It’s possible that most of them are just headlines and therefore not full written articles. My original comment was really intended to be about 90% observation, 10% complaint.

  • JNeids

    Thanks for tagging in, Harv. I’ll buy you a beer at the schv…er, that place sometime.

    Interesting point you bring up – I was referring to them merely not being from Cleveland, as this is a Cleveland sports-based site, but they clearly do not meet the WFNY misery standards, either.