May 22, 2013

Ohio State – Hype or Hope?

Given that my last post did not exactly spark the conversation I wanted it to, I decided to take a different approach on topics to stir things up a bit. I understand that WFNY has primarily covered Cleveland sports and Ohio State has taken a back seat to it, but I will figure out a way to get ya, this I promise. You see, I do not love healthy arguments – I crave them. Unless we are talking about politics, I pretty much have a strong opinion on it and my goal is not necessarily to force it upon someone, but to get engaged in enough banter that I can be properly educated on the opposite side purely for perspective. In fact, on several occasions I have taken the opposite stance from which I believe just to hear the opinions and reasoning from someone else. I know, that is probably not healthy but if you knew me you would know that is par for the course.

So with that, I see this Ohio State Buckeye fan-base as having two very definitive sides with their football program. People who believe that they will be wildly successful right out of the gate and will accept nothing less, and those that believe that this team has an uphill battle regardless of the current coaching staff and talent. Go ahead, you are allowed to roll eyes and think that there cannot be a true Buckeye fan out there that would believe the latter, but you would be wrong.

The Hype:

It is obviously no secret that outside of the disgusting Penn State scandal, Ohio State has been at the forefront of the college football world since the tat-gate team got an assist for Jim Tressel’s “resignation” on Memorial Day of 2011. Technically though, it started with this dating all the way back to 2004 when the Big Ten began looking at alternate options to televise their conference after a low-ball offer from ESPN. If you do not know the back story on this, please do yourself a favor and educate yourself on it. It is a very enlightening story especially seeing how things have progressed from then, until now. This story was the very catalyst that brought Ohio State to the forefront of scrutiny both on and off the field and then became a relentless pursuit by ESPN even resulting in a lawsuit (and a loss) against Ohio State. It may have been coupled with the hiring of Urban Meyer and outright defeat, I will never know, but ESPN soon learned that there is no money left to be made on bashing a program like this and had to step down from the bully platform. Now, they are just short of embracing Ohio State releasing their Buckeye site several months ago, followed by their All Access show that dedicated 4 episodes to the program. If you watched the shows, the individual segments were solid but the main feature had a heavy focus on where the program was headed, instead of the turmoil it had been through.

So now you have to ask, is Ohio State over-hyped even outside of our own limits? Recently, I have thought about that pretty much every time an article comes out about them and I have come to conclusion that I just do not care anymore. You know why? They continue to attract and land top talent. There is not a bigger difference maker than landing talented recruits. We thought Ohio State had some good recruiting classes in years past and in the short time Urban Meyer has been here he has done very well for the program and looks to only get better, but with that quick start comes unreasonable lofty expectations from Buckeye Nation. The questions then begins to circulate around if these expectations are warranted. Meyer has 2 very famous championships and is surrounded by what he claims to be some of the best talent he has been around. Attach that to a very young and relate-able coaching staff, expectations from within are only heightened. To top it off, ESPN is now an ally? Sometimes I can be a rational person, but I cannot possibly wrap my head around that meatball.

The Hope:

Let’s be truthful here for a minute. While the expectations are at an all-time high, nobody really knows what to expect from this Ohio State team this season. We all watched the Luke Fickell-coached team last year and between a him being thrust into a position he may not have been ready for and a whirlwind of suspensions, there was no way to get a proper gauge on what this team could become. A year later, there is an entirely new offense in place with almost entirely a new coaching staff. As loyal Browns fans, we know what new coaching regimes do to a team. While this does not look to be the same scenario with constant turnover, we truly do not know what this team is, or is not capable of let alone how they match up against opponents. As I had mentioned previously, the question marks on this team are positioned primarily on the offensive line and wide receiving corp. The real problem lies in that those were areas of concern even last year and there have been several players to depart from those positions since then. Braxton Miller is an incredible talent in his own right but can only be as successful as his surrounding cast allows him to be. He can and will make plays when situations break down, but a dominant team is a whole entity and not just a few highly talented individuals.

Given the young talent on this team, it is likely that the Buckeyes lose a couple of games this season deeming it a failure to most. It is not fair to judge what others see as successful but it is the very real and likely scenario for the Ohio State Buckeyes. They can possibly still win the B1G this year but given what we have seen over the past 2 weeks from the conference, that would be a minor accomplishment. It looks great on paper, but the reality of it does not satiate the true college football fan especially given what this specific fan-base has endured over the past 2 years.

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  • JK

    This is Ohio State. Even without Urban we get top recruits year in year out. Throw in one of the best coaches & coaching staffs in the nation and open a pipeline down to SEC country where Urban has recruited and you have to love what you’re seeing out of your scarlet & grey glasses. Expectations are high, yes. But I think this season is more of a preseason to the Urban era, seeing as how we can’t go to a bowl game, & that he needs to install a totally new offense. I think loss(es) this year are to be expected & I definitely wouldn’t be surprised to see a hiccup against an inferior team as part of the growing pains. However, this is the first (and only) year that will be acceptable. Starting next year it’s all or nothing.

  • The_Real_Shamrock

    Right now it’s hype but it will be just a short time before that becomes hope. So far through two games it’s clear this year will be an adjustment period, perfectly timed if you ask me, for the players and coaches. You see an offense with 5 WRs and no RBs resting heavily if not almost entirely on Braxton Miller. The injuries at RB don’t help too. But more then anything I think you see a team in transistion to the Urban Meyer speed and athleticism of his Florida days. Again, a perfect season for everyone to get acclimated. As the recruiting classes come in look out.

  • BigDigg

    I don’t think this particular OSU team is ‘elite’, but I could see them going undefeated. I could also see them losing a few games as well since it’s tough to run the slate. Given the sad state of the B1G…

    My personal thinking is this – OSU very nearly could have been undefeated in B1G play last year. All games lost were close and winnable. And that was under the worst possible scenario – young team with freshman QB, significant games missed by key skill players, awful coaching situation, season of turmoil, continued threat of sanctions etc. It’s night and day a better environment to succeed. And I think they will…

  • BenRM

    Some people’s expectations for this year are super hype. I think even winning the division is probably a bit too lofty. Braxton is still developing. There are some injury problems. I don’t really like any of the backs all that much. etc.

    Given Meyer’s track record though, I think that having very high hopes for next year and the one that follows is reasonable.

  • http://twitter.com/daverini Dave

    I agree, to an extent. Like most years, the defense will keep this team in games. There are even areas of concern there, but overall they’re solid.

    As for the WR’s – you’re right on. Stoney is a senior, and Chris Fields has shown he’s quick, but struggles in route running and catching. Kinda big ones.

  • cmm13

    I know the score of the Nebraska game was close; but in reality that thing was a disaster.

  • cmm13

    First, great article on the complete 180 ESPN has done in Buckeye coverage. I was surprised to see it took this long for someone to finally talk about this.
    Coach Urb’s defining moment to me thus far which fills me with both hype and hope was when he stepped to the podium after a 2 score win against UCF and stated repeatedly “we are not a good football team” and “we will be practicing very hard this week”. These are things I had been dying to hear leak out of Tress’s mouth for the longest time. Tressel was a winner but not like this. He didn’t scream for perfection and throw guys off the team when he didn’t get it from them. He didn’t tell players that he spent the year recruiting once they got there he doesn’t expect them all to make it through his off season conditioning/practice program.
    Meyer’s passion for winning and perfection combine with his talent scouting and recruiting efforts should have all Buckeye Nation filled with both hype and hope.

  • CM

    Sounds like the “Hope” section should be replaced with “Excuse”. Saban has a winning percentage of 89% in the last four years at UA and he’s only been at the program for 5 years. If Meyer is the guy you think he is, there is no reason not to expect similar results to Saban. The window of time should and will be short for Meyer and the program. Excellence shouldn’t take long with a program as rich as OSU.

  • CM

    BigDigg, did you really watch any of the games last year. Miller spent the entire MSU game on his back. Regardless of the score, the game was in complete control by MSU. They weren’t even close to running the table, but keep the faith.

  • JK

    What? Did you just watch the 2nd half? That was easily a winnable game.

  • JK

    What do you mean the window will be short…?

  • cmm13

    You and I seem to have trouble connecting the dots in my comments. As I stated, the score was close (meaning it was winnable) and it was a disaster (the second half).

  • cmm13

    Agreed, the comment “very nearly could have been undefeated” should be replaced with “never had a chance”. The scores of most every conference game for us did not reflect our play.
    I was at the MSU game and the Shoe was half empty by the 4th due to the ineffective passing game and MSU’s absolute terror defense breathing down Braxton’s neck at every snap.
    …oh also, it was cold and rainy.

  • cmm13

    I think he means that Meyer will not be going all JoePa on us and attempt to run the program until he’s 80. Urb’s plan is to most likely shoot for 1 more national title and if he really feels that team would be back again next year take one last stab at it. (geez i am violent today).
    To win 4 titles, with 2 different teams he goes down as one of the greatest.

  • JK

    I understand what you meant, but they still only lost by a TD. They looked like a totally different team in the 2nd half but also could have easily pulled it off.

  • CM

    What I meant by short is supported by the John Cooper era…….Win or be gone. Cooper was supposed to be the big shooter coming over from the Pac 10…. which at that time was a fairly competitive conference. He was going to be the savior. Well…… a decade later, not so much. If Meyer repeats that performance, Buckeye Nation will turn there coats again and run him out as well.

  • BigDigg

    Watched them all…Please note that i didn’t say they “should” have won, rather that they “could” have won. I think the final score was 10-7 IIRC. That game wasn’t as close as the score and agreed the Buckeye’s were outplayed handily. But they were in it till the end.

    The point was – as bad as they were last year (and they were bad at times), and given how tough it should be to win under the circumstances (true frosh QB, Bollman, missing key starters for the early go, …), they only lost one B1G game by more than 6 points and none more than 7. They were in every game.

    Now imagine this year – a seemingly weaker overall conference, positive instead of negative environment, actual legit coaching, a non-true frosh QB, etc. Is it really hard to believe that they could actually win out in conference play?