May 21, 2013

Cleveland Browns Game 7: Winner and Losers

October 22, 2012 by 88 Comments

Who caught your eye? Did someone stand out? Who blew it? That’s what were interested in this morning. Winners and losers.

So, 10-6 now? As I mentioned in our game preview podcast, teams that are young tend to be inconsistent. Road game after a big win? Sounds like potential for a letdown. Still, this team was right there with a shot.

LOSER: Josh Gordon. I wonder, if the Browns haven’t had a recent run of WRs with trouble holding onto the ball, would this drop be as big? Gordon’s TD catch was great. If he doesn’t drop that pass late, we might be talking about how he is looking like a consistent threat with still raw talent.

WINNER: Brandon Weeden. Weeden looked pretty good yesterday. He held his own all day in comparison to the number one pick in the draft. At least twice he made outstanding plays in the face of serious pressure. He had national pundits talking about him as well. The week one debacle is beginning to look like the anomaly.

LOSER/WINNER: Jimmy Haslam. Not sure how to label this. On one hand, if you are going to get that emotional and demonstrative during a game you may want to be out of the camera’s eye. On the other hand, when was the last time we saw someone in the owners box act like a fan?

LOSER: Trent Richardson. Ouch. We all kind of assumed Richardson was out because of the ribs. Then Shurmur says he didn’t aggravate the injury, he just wasn’t effective. Now, Shurmur has been known to say stupid stuff like this when it is really the case, especially about injured players. No way he just pulls Richardson there in favor of Hardesty right? Right?

LOSER: Veteran Leadership. You don’t excuse them, but it makes more sense when rookies make mistakes. Sheldon Brown missing that tackle? Not excusable. D’Qwell Jackson with that stupid roughing penalty? Inexcusable.

Alright. It’s your turn…

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  • Jack

    You had me at “I love Weeden”…

  • mgbode

    being outscored 6-34 in the 4th quarter of the past 3 games doesn’t help.

  • dwhit110

    The timeout only makes sense for Arians if he calls it with 7 or so seconds left so we actually have to punt. There’s nothing but downside for the Colts to give us what amounts to basically an untimed down opportunity there.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Jeremy-Humbert/100001904340553 Jeremy Humbert

    I will say it was nice that Cower was saying nice stuff about our QB, and our team in general. Marino, too. Maybe there is a glimmer of hope there…. Seems like Haslem has the tenacity to make something like that a possiblility.

  • Garry_Owen

    Cowher as head coach? Is that what you mean?
    Do you really think that he’s got the fire to be a full-time head coach again? I don’t see it (but I don’t know the man).

  • Harv 21

    ugh, most disappointing non sequitur everrrr.

  • Harv 21

    A Greg Little mentoring fail. Now Greg is feeling feverish, hanging onto passes, staring at his hands and wondering what the hell’s happening to him.

  • Garry_Owen

    Greg Little as Lady Macbeth? I’m having trouble seeing it, but it could work. It could work . . .

  • Harv 21

    hmm, was going more for the Dracula sunrise return transformation imagery, evil to involuntary good, but whatevs, it was clumsy. Hard to juggle work and wfny on Mondays.

  • Garry_Owen

    No, you did fine. I knew where you were going, but my mind wanders and was looking for a companion. I’ll behave now.

  • MrCleaveland

    True, but it was an even worse segue, non?

  • MrCleaveland

    Wow, just as Winners and Losers starts to lose a little steam, a European Lit nerd-fest breaks out to rekindle the spark! It doesn’t get any better than this.

    If only Weeden had as much late-game magic as Charles Darnay.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Jeremy-Humbert/100001904340553 Jeremy Humbert

    Most likely not, but Cohwer’s interest in a 1-6 team at half and after the game was a little odd to me. Who knows? His daughters have got to be grown and out of college by now, and the man is only 55, so all I am saying is… who know?”

  • Harv 21

    non , er, oui, uh, crap, not sure about rules of cross-language double-nyetatives.

  • Jaker

    You read my mind. Really gotta do your homework on WRs nowadays before you draft them. Hopefully Gordon is that exception where the guy actually means it when he says he’s sorry, not just saying it to get the $

  • Jaker

    Fair enough, but I think I made my point.

    Winners: people who deserve a chance to be head coaches in the NFL. You men, start your homework

  • Garry_Owen

    Homework!??! They said there wouldn’t be any homework!

    How about Chip Kelly? (Not advocating, just throwing out an intriguing name.)

  • mgbode

    Brian Kelly would cost less to move to Cleveland :)

    plus his offensive and defensive schemes are better suited to the NFL.

  • mgbode

    while we are discussing coaches with the name Kelly:

    Mike Kelly – retired from U of Dayton in 2007, but was 246-54-1 for them and was born, raised, and coached in OH (brownie points). sure, he’s 64yo and never coached at college football’s highest level. but, I am just tossing out Kelly’s here.

    in that vein, Jim Kelly runs youth football programs now and our current team is a “youth football program,” no?

  • Garry_Owen

    But Chip is crazy! No huddle! Weeden running the spread! Okay, maybe not the last, but he’s crazy!

  • Jaker

    Chip is interesting, I believe it was you that mentioned Jay Gruden, which I would be open to as well. Really upset that Fisher is off the table, he’s a personal favorite of mine. Need experience and discipline

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=511408774 Eric Vandergriff

    Of all the losers did you really just leave out the biggest loser? I don’t know how in the world you forgot to add Shurmur to this list. Jauron deserved a special seat as well. You might deserve a seat on the list for this huge miss on your part.

  • Garry_Owen

    Love Fisher. He would have been a top choice for me.

    I think someone else said Jay, but I’d definitely take him over Jon.

  • Hypno_Toad

    I have to applaud you for not putting Gordon on the “Winners” list. This is a point where the normal Browns apologists would say that he still caught a TD in a consecutive game and was turning into a real threat.

    Truth is he dropped the game winning catch. He can haul in as many TDs as he wants during the first 3 quarters but if we’re down late in the 4th and his name is called he has to make the catch. Not acceptable.

  • Harv 21

    sometimes wonder what the Blog Generals make of the nerdfest outbreaks. “This is great, we’re attracting like-minded fans who are reasonably knowledgeable, keep it clean and … oh no, here come these guys again. Hey Garry, Mr. C, Harv! Great that you’re here, c’mon over here with me, wanna show you something. There’s orange soda in this room with the international students.”

  • MrCleaveland

    Nerdfesters: “Uh, we’ve already met.”

    Generals: “SUPER! Then you’ll have lots to talk about!”

  • geauxman0

    Winners: John Gruden or Bill Cowher or ………..
    Losers: The Browns O-Line who were basically told by Shurmer that they couldn’t get less than a yard with the game on the line against an average defense.
    Winners: Greg Little. One dropped pass and one catch all in the same play. Impressive.
    Losers: Us! I spent 3 hours on a beautiful Sunday afternoon watching that &)#^&@). Anybody else feel the same way? Could have been mowing my neighbors lawn. A lot more fun.
    Winners: The Browns O-Line does win. They are giving Weeden some great pockets against tough rush teams i.e. the Giants.
    Losers: The AFC. As bad as the Browns are, I think they are still within 2 games of a playoff spot?
    Losers: Those of you who kept the volume up on the game. Solomon Wilcotts can talk can’t he? It seemed like he went for 10 minutes between each play…….on and on and on……..

  • geauxman0

    Winners: John Gruden or Bill Cowher or ………..
    Losers: The Browns O-Line who were basically told by Shurmer that they couldn’t get less than a yard with the game on the line against an average defense.
    Winners: Greg Little. One dropped pass and one catch all in the same play. Impressive.
    Losers: Us! I spent 3 hours on a beautiful Sunday afternoon watching that &)#^&@). Anybody else feel the same way? Could have been mowing my neighbors lawn. A lot more fun.
    Winners: The Browns O-Line does win. They are giving Weeden some great pockets against tough rush teams i.e. the Giants.
    Losers: The AFC. As bad as the Browns are, I think they are still within 2 games of a playoff spot?
    Losers: Those of you who kept the volume up on the game. Solomon Wilcotts can talk can’t he? It seemed like he went for 10 minutes between each play…….on and on and on……..

  • Garry_Owen

    How about Machine Gun Kelly? I know he’s dead, but, machine guns!

  • Garry_Owen

    I do believe that the Generals’ silence in the midst of these conversations is loud and clear indication of what they think. I imagine it’s something like this:
    “Gee, we built this really nice mansion, hold an open house to indicate our desire to be neighborly, and the hippies come in with their smelly dogs, noisy kids, petuli oil, and bedbugs. They eat all of the hors d’oeuvres and soil the new davenport. They think that they’re being cosmopolitan, but they have no idea what they’re doing to the place.”
    Well, they’re going to have to call the cops.

  • Ryan

    I don’t agree with Gordon being in the L column. Those 50-60 yard passes that he has been catching for TD’s can’t be assumed completions every time. He was running full sprint with someone grabbing at his ankles and the ball happened to be coming down right as he entered the sun… not an easy catch

  • mgbode

    does that mean I’m the bum who just started living in the guest house without asking and they are too afraid to say anything because while I come off friendly, you just never know?

  • Harv 21

    i know that guy, actually a bunch of them. They always find me to chat up. They seem normal until you notice one thing’s off, he’s wearing just one sock, he’s very vague and contradictory about where he lives, he’s real excited about some fringe issue and assumes you know all about it. Dude, is that you?

  • 90744444

    Loser: Shurmer. Consistent poor play calling and clock management. Everyone has talked of the 4th & 1 in the second half. Can someone explain to me what was going on in the las two minutes of the first half?

  • Old Coach

    As Sam Rutigliano said, “Haslam was probably saying, I paid a billion dollars for this???”

  • http://www.facebook.com/anne.dunn.144 Anne Dunn

    Little’s TD catch was basically a miracle. I’m amazed so few people have mentioned it. And if he had not pulled that off, no one would be complaining how we would have won the game if only Gordon had caught the pass looking for it into the sun (bad play call or off target pass). We would have lost by 11 points.

    No one catches every pass and no one play ever determines whether a game is won or lost. The play for the whole game does that.

  • http://www.facebook.com/anne.dunn.144 Anne Dunn

    Great comment! We need more like it.

  • http://www.facebook.com/anne.dunn.144 Anne Dunn

    This team lacks a passionate, determined, desire to win and hating to lose. We need team leadership and coaching leadership.

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