June 19, 2013

Haslam: No changes for Browns, if any, until the end of the season

October 4, 2012 by 22 Comments

I don’t think anybody thinks that 0-4 [is acceptable] and certainly Mike Holmgren and Pat Shurmur don’t think it is and we don’t think it is, but this is a young team, it’s building, and I think we’re heading in the right direction. We don’t officially own the team yet, and we’ve said all along that we’re not going to make any comments on personnel changes until after we own the team. [The league vote is] in about two weeks, and candidly we’ll be halfway through the football season so any personnel decisions we make would be made toward the end of the year.

– Impending Cleveland Browns owner Jimmy Haslam III, Thursday, in an interview with FOX Business, when asked what his plans are with the front office, including “Mike Holgrum.”

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  • The_Real_Shamrock

    Makes the most sense let it play out then dropper the hamma’!

  • MrCleaveland

    Not to be picky, Scout, but I think it’s pronounced “Homegrum.”

  • Harv 21

    Not to be picky, Scout, but “toward the end of the year” is not “until the end of the year” as the headline states.

    Shermgrum hears the hammering and sawing from the Berea offices, and knows for whom the gallows rise.

  • humboldt

    I like this. “Grums” remind me of “home”. East side!

  • Vindictive_Pat

    Makes sense… unless you’re planning to give a try-out to a guy who is already on the staff, then wait until the end of the year. Nobody brings in a brand new guy who hasn’t been involved with the organization unless the season is over, at least from what I can best recollect.

  • Breakfast

    Who is Shermgrum?

  • The_Real_Shamrock

    Shurmur/Holmgrum

  • MrCleaveland

    To be picky, Scout’s not the one who said “Holgrum.” It was some female reporter. Hilarious

  • thepaledragon

    So far I’m comforted by everything Haslam has said regarding the current staff. I think it seems to a lot us fans that this team is heading in the right direction and it’s encouraging that Haslam feels the same way. No need to change things just for change’s sake. Haslam seems willing to acknowledge that he doesn’t know everything about running a football team, and while he learns he’s willing to defer to the football experts already in the room.

  • Hypno_Toad

    Why is this comment worthy of three downvotes?

    Have an upvote sir.

  • LaundroMat

    Not to be picky, but “No changes, if any” does not make sense. “Few changes, if any” would. And even then, that changes would be made “toward the end of the year” — if they are made — doesn’t necessarily mean that few changes would be made. Many of them could be made toward the end of the year, consistent with what Haslam said.

  • C-Bus Kevin

    I think the player selection has been okay, but Shurmur’s not really showing me much in the coaching department. Overall, I think the two biggest glaring problems for this team are wide receivers and game management (for example, punting at midfield down a touchdown with just 6 minutes to go).

    I don’t think I feel quite as positive as you overall.

  • Hopwin

    I have yet to speak to a Browns fan who feels we are heading in any direction but last place in the division again.

  • C-Bus Kevin

    I really hope this guy knows what he’s doing. We need a new, winning culture that includes, you know, winning. Right now, this fan base is so shell shocked that some people actually think that this team is showing some real progress.

    And before I get lit up…yes, I think Weeden looks like he could at least be an average starting QB in the league, TRich is a beast, and most of the rest of the team looks fairly solid (with the glaring exception of wide receivers), but at some point you need to win and EXPECT to win on a weekly and annual basis.

    Teams like the Ravens, Steelers, Packers, Giants, Patriots and even the Texans may have a down year from time to time, but they expect to be in it every year…and usually, they are in the playoff mix right to the last week of the season.

    I’m really excited about the ownership change, because I think it’s the perfect opportunity to totally change the culture of the team. Hopefully, they can execute.

  • http://www.facebook.com/larry.king.92317121 Larry King

    Me either,but I still hope………..

  • thepaledragon

    This year? Of course we’re still a last place team. But we are also one of the youngest teams in the league, with a high number of starters being rookies or second year players. I see a lot of optimism among Browns fans about these players: Sheard, Richardson, Taylor, Benjamin, etc.

    As we’ve seen in our history of regime changes, when a new guy comes in he cleans house and starts from scratch again. I think that because of our young talent that another rebuild would be premature at this point.

  • thepaledragon

    Agreed on the receivers, but they are also really young. It typically takes three years for a WR to adjust to the NFL.

    I’m not a fan of Shurmur, but I’m willing to be patient and let him adjust to being a first time head coach. Did you see “Cleveland ’95″? Belichick had losing seasons his first 3 years in Cleveland, but then won a playoff game in 1994, and had the team on track for long term success. We’re not going to get anywhere by changing coaches every 2-3 years.

  • Hopwin

    That is the most asanine argument ever presented.
    We are not going to get any where by slapping a Head Coach hat on just anyone and praying that consistency will offset their stupid. You didn’t marry the first chick/dude you dated (unless they were *the one*), you keep looking til you find the *right* one.
    The Indians have stuck with the same guys in their Front Office for the last 13 years and where are they? Consistency is meaningless if you have the wrong guys.

  • Hopwin

    So your argument then is that we have a lot of untested and unproven talent so leave it be?

  • steve-o

    Haslam’s focus is the long term success of the team. There really aren’t any changes that can be made at this point in the season to transform us into contenders. So the next best thing is to see what we really have and, most importantly, to demonstrate to any future potential employees that we have a measure of patience and will not make panic moves.

  • The_Matt_Of_Akron

    not heading….we’re there.

  • thepaledragon

    Yeah, but do we KNOW that Shurmur is the wrong guy, based on just 20 games, and just one full offseason? You can’t just change a team overnight. Holmgren/Heckert/Shurmur have established a system and have selected players to fit in that system. These players need time to develop, however.

    My point above is that even Bill Belichick wasn’t SUPER BOWL COACHGOD BILL BELICHICK until he had several years of head coaching experience under his belt.

    How do you know we have the wrong guys? What makes you so convinced that things WON’T get better under the current regime?