Pics: Browns question special teams holding calls against Ray Ventrone

Ventrone Hold 1

Ventrone is in the upper right hand corner

Today during sessions with the media, it was revealed that the Browns were going to send tape to the league regarding two holding calls against Ray Ventrone against the Colts. They were gut-punches in terms of field position and some on Twitter, including the Plain Dealer’s Dennis Manaloff indicated that Ventrone might need to find his own way home after the game. Because CBS can’t be bothered to show penalties in replay anymore, I rewound it myself yesterday during the game and discovered that they were some pretty bad calls. After further review, the D-Man has also exonerated Ventrone. Now here are the pictures to prove it.

Here’s the first “hold” showing Bubba engaged with his man and also shows his position with regard to the ball, which is pretty important when determining if a play is a hold or not.


Here is the second play where they said Ventrone was “holding.” In this case, Ventrone was locked up with his guy again and as the ball moved past he released his guy. There might have been a split second where Ventrone was engaged and should have let go, but you can see from the second pic that it couldn’t have been more than an instant.

See below. Still blocking and then on the right hand side his guy is released and chasing Cribbs.

Obviously the Browns won’t get anything out of this. Also obviously the Browns didn’t lose the game against the Colts only because of the refereeing. Still, it is noteworthy just how poorly this game was officiated, I thought.

  • BenRM

    I also felt like Sheard was being held a lot and it wasn’t being called.

  • Harv 21

    really impossible to tell if holding occured without video.

  • cmm13

    But but but Roger…we weren’t holding ….see….come on….please…PLEASE GIVE US A WIN!

  • Craig Lyndall

    My word plus some supporting pictures help tell the tale I think.

  • Garry_Owen

    Yes! I’m not alone!
    There were at least 3 plays that I was saying out loud “that’s a hold,” as the play was progressing, but it wasn’t called. My wife must think I’m having early-onset dementia. Granted, I might be, but it’s at least nice to know I wasn’t just seeing things yesterday.

  • MrCleaveland

    On the flip side, even Weeden looked surprised when they flagged the Colts for roughing the passer. But, as Craig pointed out, CBS couldn’t be bothered to replay it, so we don’t know for sure what happened.

  • Harv 21

    sorry, Craig, for some reason didn’t see the video above when I first read this. Yeah, I think there’s a beef.

  • hopwin

    Pat Shurmur: its Trent’s fault for running bad! No? It’s the officials cheating! No? It’s the Colts fault for being better… And better coached and… Crap I’m fired aren’t i?

  • Craig Lyndall

    You annoyed me into capping the plays in video. :-) they weren’t there before.

  • cmm13

    Hey Ori and Sham..ten, count them ten down votes for doing nothing but pointing out the obvious that this is seriously the dumbest thing ever.

    Whhhaaaa…we weren’t holding on a special team play that was not a game ending play.


  • Harv 21

    all righty, then.
    Commenters: they don’t write the blog, they ,make it better.

  • Ezzie Goldish

    They showed him getting nicked ever so slightly in the chin, which was the call. On my Sunday ticket they showed it… they made up for it a play or so later when he slid and got hit in the head after the slide – no call.

  • fatherelectron

    Just proves the league is still pissed they had to create a new franchise for Cleveland in 1999. Was not in the plan. Cleveland fans have paid for 14 years with horrible calls. Enjoy C-Town. You made your bed. Take your medicine.

  • CBI

    C’mon, you can come up with something better than that. Has it really gotten that bad that we can’t even draw quality trolls anymore? Rookie ball sir, rookie ball.

  • BenRM

    Theres a gif of Andrew Luck’s first rushing TD in the game and it looks pretty clearly like Sheard is being held.

  • BenRM

    I remember saying “make up call” to that play.

  • Vindictive_Pat

    I couldn’t really say if it cost us the game, but it felt like I saw a lot of home-cooking in that game. The crowd reacts negatively to a play and then the flag would come out for the home team. There was a pass interference call that was thankfully overturned where Luck threw the ball out of bounds 5 feet over the closest receiver’s head, and at least 5 feet in from of him. It took all of the other refs who saw the play to convince the ref closest to the play that he blew the call.

  • Pat Shurmur

    That’s what you think. I’m quitting before they fire me, but not until the day they fire me. I am an awesome coach.

  • Craig Lyndall

    Well, some of them do. Thanks for nudging me sir. :-)