Browns Josh Gordon on Michael Lombardi, “Uh oh.. Am I in trouble??”

And before he’s even here, he’s getting into it with the players…

he is?

The person that liked the move initially, and the only one that mattered, was Heckert. And a guy who did not like the move is in his place. That is an uh-oh.

I get your point here, but ultimately we aren’t required to have informed opinions, we’re fans.

Sooooo, Lombardi is 0 for 2? With two of our best players. Before even starting? I am very scared.

Someone, comfort me

agreed, but the opinion of the fans at the time (mostly) was this was a wasted pick. turned out not to be the case but we can’t act like every fan wanted (or heard of) Josh Gordon

That’s a good point and all the people who’ve been defending the Browns lately through their stupid moves (firing Heckert) and publicity blunders (the whole Chip Kelly thing) should remember that while there’s no doubt that the people inside the room know more about football and about the situations, that means nothing unless the decisions they make have better results that those we would have made. For the last ten years, a blind casual Browns fan could have run the organization better than the experts who tried. Furthermore, when decisions are made on the basis of personal relationships, the way the Shurmur and Lombardi (and likely Heckert) decisions were, the fans are in fact on equal footing with the “experts”.

There, there.

The good thing about WFNY is that theoretically, we could check what the public opinion was like at the time. Except that I can’t figure out how to find it… I do seem to remember being strongly in favor of the move at the time, based on the Jets picking up a similarly unproven WR on the basis of physical talent – except that Stephen Hill was unproven despite being a starter in college.

Where? Where?

Let’s hope the staff that Heckert put in place stays in place, and learned a thing or two from him, and that Lombardi listens to them. They have obviously done a better job than he would have.

Name when he has gotten it right. I literally just called the Browns home office to complain. Really. 440-891-5000. Go for it….at least they know how super excited we are. This just took all the wind out of my sails.

And I thought Holmgren was completely out of touch with the fan base.

It’s typical Cleveland to whine at terrible decisions, like firing the sole competent executive the team has had in its earthly history to hire someone with possibly the worst track record of anyone somehow associated with the NFL. But look at the Norv Turner thread – no one is whining there. Hmmm, I wonder why that is?

Here Here!

You were absolutely. There is no point getting upset about this team. It just is what it is.

Gulp gulp (the only comfort)

there were huge mixed reviews on Russell though. in fact, the Browns boards were pretty split of the opinion on JoeT and Peterson. But, there was a good consensus that noone wanted Russell (remember the Savage “found him” rumors and the scare that we might trade up for him?)

I had high hopes for the new Browns regime, but what I perceive to be bad move after bad move after bad move, the latest being the hiring of Mike Lombardi, leaves me with very little hope of a bright future. The next move ought to be Banner out the door.

It’s an honor just to bask in your reflected glory.

I think he’s the perfect hire. Whatever he says, we do the opposite and all will be right in the Browns world.

In Ancient Rome, a returning victorious general was often greeted by a parade through the city. Amidst the adulation, he would have a slave riding on his chariot, whispering in his ear, “All glory is fleeting,” in order to remind him to stay humble (and, well, to keep him from overthrowing the Senate – the practice of victory parades strangely ended after Julius Caesar; in fact, after him, conquering heroes were no longer allowed to even enter the city gates – ah, but you didn’t ask for that bonus content).

For this reason, I gave you one down vote.