While We’re Waiting… More Chud goodness, Cavs look to future and the roles of Kip and Chiz


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Chud is from Ohio!!!!!!! “But then, the new fellow’s name is Rob Chudzinski. Among the Browns’ very few distinguishing traits is their nativity to Cleveland (though even that has, in the past, been subject to overturn.) You could scarcely invent a more Cleveland name than Rob Chudzinski. Guys with -ski surnames began settling northeast Ohio 150 years ago, working in stone quarries and steel mills, and by the early 20th century Polish immigrants even supported a newspaper called theMonitor Clevelandski. In a tossup you must admit that “Chudzinski” is simply more fun to say than “Whisenhut” or “Trestman.” You must also admit that for the Browns to hire a green coach who was interviewed by no other NFL teams bodes uncomfortably well for his chances at continuing The Browns Way.

Apparently Chudzinski blew Browns management away in interviews (the team had at least eight other candidates, all with more experience). No coincidence he grew up nearby in Toledo, and as a boy would imagine himself playing with or as Browns greats. Upon his hiring Chudzinski cited Ozzie Newsome and Brian Sipe in that regard, but he could’ve gone with Hall of Fame center Frank Gatski (’46 to ’56) or lesser-knowns such as running back Henry Hynoski, receiver Frank Kosikowski, linebacker Mike Kovaleski, or Ed and Dick Modzelewski, or Jim Ninowski or Gene Selawski or Joe Skibinski or Ed Ulinski.” [Sam Eifling/Deadspin]

People may be mad about the hire now, but we’ll all be sold by the time the season starts. “Chudzinski was certainly a surprise hiring – interviewed on Wednesday, hired on Thursday, introduced to on Friday. But that doesn’t mean this is a bad hire.

Consider that, when NFL teams want to hire a coach, they have three choices:

  • A college coach
  • An NFL retread
  • A first-time head coach who was a coordinator.

The Browns worked their way through that standard checklist, first trying the college route. They interviewed Chip Kelly and Doug Marronne, and didn’t get a chance with Nick Saban and Bill O’Brien because they decided to stay at school.

They tried the NFL retread, interviewing Ken Whisenhunt and Lovie Smith.

They also went the coordinator route, meeting with Mike Zimmer, Ray Horton and Marc Trestman (a head coach in Canada, how’s that for innovation?) in addition to Chudzinski.

This wasn’t Randy Lerner hiring the first coach that flashed a little thigh at him (Mangini in 2009), or Mike Holmgren giving a family friend his big break (Shurmur in 2011).

The Browns claim to have done their homework (of course, what team hires a coach and admits they are not thrilled?) and, in the end, all roads led to Charlotte and Chud.” [Thomas Moore/The Cleveland Fan]

George Karl could see LeBron in the Wine & Gold again. “Karl, who coached Cleveland from 1984 to 1986, offered a primary reason why he could see a return by James, an Akron, Ohio, native who played for the Cavaliers from 2003 to 2010 before bolting to Miami when he became a free agent.

“I see (Kyrie) Irving maybe being a reason for that,” Karl said of the reigning Rookie of the Year, who leads Cleveland in scoring with a 23.5 average.

Irving, 20, is a rising star and has a good relationship with James. The two have known each other since James took Irving under his wing when the point guard was 15.

“I don’t know, man,” Irving said when told what Karl said. “Until it happens, I won’t really have a reaction to it.”

When asked if he ever would like to play with James, Irving said, “We’ll see.”

It’s been well-chronicled the wrath Cleveland fans have had for James since he left in summer 2010. However, last February, in his third return to Cleveland with the Heat, James left the door open to a return. He can opt out of his contract and become a free agent as soon as summer 2014.” [Chris Tomasson/Fox Sports Florida].

Time to start prospect watching, Cavs fans. “The Cleveland Cavaliers are not going to make the playoffs. I do apologize if this is shocking or startling news to you, but it’s time that we face the facts. The Cavs are sitting at 9-29 and are clearly lottery bound. I don’t want to start an all-out analysis of the 2013 NBA Draft — that will come later. But I feel as though it’s probably worthwhile to get some of my initial thoughts down in writing to help steer the inevitable discussion of potential prospects.

Now, this is not an exhaustive list of prospects that I like or guys who would look good in Wine and Gold, but rather, a launching point for some discussion. I haven’t been able to watch a ton of college basketball yet, so there are definitely some big name guys that I haven’t seen play yet — keep that in mind. I want to point you guys in the right direction if you aren’t used to watching college basketball. Want to watch college ball for possible future Cavs? Look for one of these guys. Make sense? Okay, here we go. [Conrad Kaczmerak/Fear the Sword].

Let’s just hope they can both stay healthy. “But in 2013, the expectations for both should rise. Kipnis could easily use his speed to hit at the top of the order, either leadoff or in the second spot behind Michael Brantley and in front of Asdrubal Cabrera. If his power increases, along with his speed, he makes a key member of the top of the order and provides depth for Cabrera, Nick Swisher and Carlos Santana to hit in the middle of the order.

Chisenhall, on the other hand, could also provide depth to the Tribe lineup by hitting behind the middle of the order. When projecting the Indians’ lineup, many have concern with Swisher, Santana and Mark Reynolds together in the lineup. With Chisenhall’s potential to hit 18-22 home runs in a full, healthy season—just like Kipnis—he could provide a nice break among the strike out heavy hitters and push Reynolds to the seventh spot in the lineup.” [Mike Brandyberry/Did the Tribe Win Last Night?].



  • MrCleaveland

    I actually feel a little sorry for Broncos fans right now. What an axe to the groin that was.

    Okay, the feeling just passed. Too bad it had to be the Ratbirds though.

    Speaking of which, if Modell is inducted into the HOF this year, you’ll be able to hear the BULL-**** chants from Canton to Baltimore.

  • Harv 21

    saw the list of other HOF eligibles and the max number permitted – very small odds for him to get the required 80% vote, what with so many no-brainers.

    Now when a teensy-weensy more time passes and we start winning , I think he’s in.

  • MrCleaveland

    Modell’s contributions to the league — particularly the TV stuff — are vastly overrated.

    Here’s an illustration of what an incompetent he was: when he was running the TV committee in the early ’90s, he wanted to refund some money to networks because the ratings hadn’t been as high as projected. When newbie owner Jerry Jones heard of this, he said in effect, “Are you flipping nuts?”

    Shortly thereafter, Jones took over as the league’s TV guy. He then grabbed the networks by the adam’s apple and turned millions into billions.

    Modell, meanwhile, somehow managed to go broke owning an NFL money-printing machine.

  • The_Matt_Of_Akron

    “when … we start winning”

    So he’s never getting in?

  • The_Real_Shamrock

    That was a tough one if you were a Browns fan at least but I watch the playoffs and it just shows me how far Cleveland really is even now.

  • Harv 21

    oh, but that’s the wrong era of his contributions. Not the ’90s, but the ’60s -’70s, when he and Rozelle drove the national tv contract negotiations and, most crucially, Art convinced the owners of large market teams to share revenue. That one success helped football trump baseball as the national sport. Justifiably hated, but not overrated. Not being at the forefront of revenue ideas 30 years later doesn’t diminish what he did when he was the upstart Jerry Jones of his era.

  • MrCleaveland

    Once when he was talking about the owners’ revenue-sharing plan, he said, “We’re 28 Republicans who vote Socialist.” Gotta admit, that was pretty good.

  • https://twitter.com/jimkanicki jimkanicki

    wellington mara’s willingness to forego a proportionate share of tv revenue is what enabled the contracts.

    the only tv thing art did that affected me was to hunt down and frighten bars piping in satellite feeds for browns backers chapters up here.