While We’re Waiting… BOURN!
February 12, 2013
WFNY Podcast – 2013-02-11 – Scott and Craig talk Bourn, Flacco, Haslam and Mike Wallace
February 12, 2013It’s not news that the Indians were able to pry Trevor Bauer from the Diamondbacks due to some personality conflicts in the clubhouse—especially between Bauer and his battery-mate Miguel Montero. Evidently Bauer chose not to partake in the tutelage proffered by Montero, and this rubbed the veteran backstop the wrong way.
Montero, wanting to make sure this was still a story, reiterated his concerns about Bauer at the Diamondbacks’ FanFest event on Saturday:
When you get a guy like that and he thinks he’s got everything figured out, it’s just tough to commence and try to get on the same page with you.
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Since day one in Spring Training I caught him and he killed me because he threw about 100 pitches the first day.
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[T]he next time he threw I saw him doing the same thing. He never wanted to listen […] Good luck to Carlos Santana.
Also, BREAKING: SOMETIMES 21 YEAR OLD KIDS ARE HEADSTRONG AND EGOMANIACAL.
Carry on. Soon enough there will be Spring Training games to overreact to. Can’t hardly wait.
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Boo hoo Montero… do your freaking job and quit whining.
I hope that a few months into the season D-Back fans hate Montero for Bauer like we hate Wedge for Philips.
I hate Wedge for many, many things including that mustache he tried to pull off.
Ah yes, Trevor Bauer for Rookie of the Year? Anyone? I think he’s still considered a rookie.
Miguel Montero, who know Trevor Bauer for all of 15 minutes, had determined the best way to develop young Trevor was by allowing Montero to rest his knees because he was out of shape coming into spring training.
@Jon you try to brush this aside with your sarcasm font but you’re kidding yourself if you don’t think this could potentially be an issue.
“snip” is right.
That would be truly glorious
Sure. Could be.
But really, I think of most 21 year old kids as immature and poor at taking instruction and advice. I sure was.
Add to the equation other-worldly talent, a community that’s told you your whole life that you’re the best thing ever, a slightly oddball personality and a do-it-yourself mentality and I can see how this became an issue.
But it should never have been allowed to become what it did. At some point grown ups needed to have grown up conversations without going to the media. I trust that Francona will handle all these quirks a thousand times better than Kirk Gibson and Montero did. It really would be worth the extra trouble.
This is why we have Terry Francona
HE TRIED TO RIP OFF HIS MUSTACHE?!?!?! That psycho…
Thank God we have Terry for this & not Manny.
World to Miguel Montero: No one cares.
Chicken and beer if he misbehaves.
quickly: I think it is less a “21-year old, immature guy” thing, and more a “professional athlete who had tremendous success all his life doing it his (unorthodox and misunderstood) way” thing. He probably is just sick of explaining himself.
Most athletes/GMs/coaches/managers/players don’t really understand the science in sports. Bauer seems to embrace it. We used to think static stretching before competition was a warm-up; now we know that it could possibly impede maximum performance. Things change. I am hoping that if the Tribe embrace Bauer’s methods, Bauer will be more comfortable and effective.
Can you get back stage passes like at a Motley Crue concert? Party with the bull pen. NOW THAT is a marketing idea
These quotes make Montero sound like an idiot, but ….
– Part of a veteran catcher’s job is to break in rook pitchers. If Bauer acted smirky and dismissive beyond that of the usual hot prospects that’s something to frustrate a catcher. Or he might have been defensively responding to a question from a fan still bewildered as to why the team traded this guy?
– Not safe to assume that the D’Backs decision to trade a prize pitcher was made without good cause just because we have him now and want that to be the case. We’ll find out soon if he’s worth the trouble. Maybe being traded made Bauer grow up a little also, but let’s see how it works out here before declare the D’Backs stupidheads.
It strikes me as kind of funny when you realize that the same types of things could of and should of been said about Cardinals legend Bob Gibson.
Not saying that Bauer will be Gibson, but just saying that when you are great, they credit your stubbornness and “going the extra mile” attitude like throwing 100 pitches the first day of spring training.
When you’re bad – they say you are uncoachable and a head case.
Such a fine line.
or Steve Carlton, Gaylord Perry, and many other greats who were pretty reviled by teammates.
Montero has a history of publicly hating Bauer. Not sure it’s best for him to continue after the trade is done.
Lots of risk on Bauer. Let’s hope we can harness the reward this time.
The vast majority of 21-year old kids who are pitching prospects aren’t complained about in this way. So, it’s really not reasonable to chalk it up to his being 21, and dispense with it.
the vast majority of 21yo kids who are pitching prospects are still in single-A
Dont you know its lent?!
But really, what’s the risk?
We gave up a year of Choo (at $7.5 million, by the way), who was going to leave at the end of the season anyway along with Tony Sipp and Jason Donald. We somehow acquired Bauer and gave up almost nothing of significant value. And the value we did lose, we promptly replaced with not one but two players who are as good if not better.
I guess I see the acquisition of Bauer as low-risk, high-reward–the best kind of move a team can possibly make…
100%.
Given that he had to dump Choo/Boras, at best this could be Antonetti’s signature move, his Bartolo for Lee/Sizemore/ Phillips. At worst, he whiffed when Boras and his backpack of kryptonite were already knocking on the door. He swung for the fences instead of for a couple of single-A outfield prospects. I commend him however it shakes out.
Amen and a like. Bauer has some Stephen Strasburg in him too, with a few extra quirks and well, the headphones thing. I think there’s much less risk in Bauer than say, Ubaldo and his insistence on throwing 1,432 different pitches. Mickey Calloway has his hands full of talent–and quirks. Too bad the Lil Cowboy isnt around this year to spit baccy juice on their shoes when they act up.
Cleveland GM’s rarely swing for the fences. I commend him, too, for his actions.
A pitcher has to have attitude, that’s half the battle, I like it. Nothing wrong with a pitcher with some self confidence.
Montero is an all-star caliber catcher.
At this point, I’ll agree with him until Bauer proves him wrong.
Really! Low intelligence Montero trying to convince Bauer to listen to him! How painful must that have been for Trev! And Gibson supporting that position???
Montero is old school baseball and unfortunately does not have the ability to think outside the box. So what, Bauer shook him off! Big freakin deal! Montero needs to check his ego. “He ain’t all that!l
Montero is old school baseball and unfortunately does not have the ability to think outside the box. So what, Bauer shook him off! Big freakin deal! Montero needs to check his ego. “He ain’t all that!”