April 24, 2014

MLB Rumors: Cardinals, Indians talking Adrubal Cabrera deal

In his latest column today, ESPN.com’s Buster Olney begins with a trade idea that might not be too heart-warming for Cleveland Indians fans. According to his report, the St. Louis Cardinals have continued discussions with the Tribe in regards to shortstop Asdrubal Cabrera.

The article states that the two teams discussed such a deal during the offseason, when usually it’s easier to get such a major trade completed. St. Louis has continued to lack production at the shortstop position in 2013. Thus, talks have continued between the two clubs.

Obviously, with the Indians at 48-44 and only 2.5 games back of the Detroit Tigers in the AL Central, it likely wouldn’t be a popular deal in Cleveland. Olney mentioned that the Cardinals have one of the deepest farm systems in baseball, as led by a number of MLB-ready arms such as Shelby Miller, Trevor Rosenthal, Carlos Martinez and Michael Wacha.

Another interested team in Cabrera is the New York Yankees, who are looking for more future infield production because of injuries (Derek Jeter), a possible suspension (Alex Rodriguez) and the likelihood of an offseason departure (Robinson Cano). They’ve asked about Cabrera repeatedly, per Olney, and feel that he could be a versatile player capable of filling in at multiple positions.

Mike Aviles would be the likely short-term Indians answer at shortstop with High-A Carolina star prospect Francisco Lindor to follow in the long-term, per Olney’s analysis of such a deal. Although the Indians believe No. 2 prospect Trevor Bauer will eventually work out his struggles, the team still is looking for pitching help.

Previously, we’ve seen MLB Cleveland trade rumors related to Matt Garza and the other top pitching prospects on the market. This is the first one in July 2013 that relates to the Indians perhaps selling off one of their better players, albeit one oft-rumored in deals last offseason and only under contract through 2014.

[Related: Indians can’t afford to wait until deadline to make a deal]

  • woofersus

    It’s more than a half year. They’d still need a shortstop for next year, or a replacement for Aviles. I’m not saying that’s not possible, but it’s not like Cabrera is just expendable right now. And they could trade him this offseason or next year too. There’s no pressing reason to do it right now unless the offer is just that good. SS s a premium position. Good offensive ones don’t just grow on trees.

    I understand the desire to restock young arms but our SP situation isn’t as dire as some have made it out to be, and what this organization needs more than anything else is to play some meaningful games in August and September, even if the come up short. We’ve been selling for the sake of the next three years for too long and the fan base is dwindling. If they want to put a quality product on the field, selling off your all star shortstop before his contract year for less than absolute top dollar is the wrong move.

  • The_Real_Shamrock

    I was more concerned about the rest of this year then next. Also assuming that Lindor might be closer next year as opposed to now.

    I agree no hurry to trade Cabrera if at all. Just kicking the tires. But Cabrera needs to start hitting because his bat has all but been MIA the entire season.

    I also agree about the Indians having other potential starters in house. Bauer and now Salazar potentially. But it never hurts to window shop. In a perfect world the answers will come from within which renders any need for a trade mute. Still time to see what happens.

  • woofersus

    You don’t have to like the stats, but they’re just information. People just dream up new ways to arrange and look at it for decision making purposes. If an abnormally high number of ground balls dribble through holes in the infield and aren’t errors, it affects the pitcher’s stats, not the infielders’. It’s reasonable to expect that to average out over time. In Carasco’s case (and the eye test confirms at least on his last start because I remember thinking it at the time) a really high number of those have happened vs those that produce outs.

    I agree much of his issues are mental. He’s throwing as hard as ever, and his stuff is as good as anybody we have. In AAA he’s having a career best year statistically and in Cleveland he’s putting up career worst numbers across the board. I do think he’s had some bad luck, combined with a bullpen that has repeatedly allowed his base runners to score, but he just can’t seem to make people miss like he usually does. I’m still hopeful for him next year. He did miss all of 2012 after showing promise at the ML level before being hurt.

  • woofersus

    Oh I’d love to land another top pitching prospect. No doubt there. You can never have too many of those. I’d be fairly shocked if we didn’t eventually trade Cabrera given our strength at SS and his expiring contract. I just think doing it this year is a mistake unless they make a crazy good deal.

  • Jaker

    Is that realistic? Because if it is, that would be one heck of a haul! Martinez can be a future #2, maybe Ace, and Rosenthal the Closer? Sign me up NOW

  • Bourn, Michael Bourn

    Don’t know if they’d throw him in, but I’d take it. Juan Diaz is hardly hitting .200 in AAA, he’s not the answer.

  • Bourn, Michael Bourn

    OPS is a good tool to measure power hitters, but some guys are destined to have below average OPS figures. Brantley is having a good year, but his OPS will probably rarely eclipse .800. Omar Vizquel’s career OPS was .688.

    Lindor excels at batting average, on base percentage, contact hitting, and base running; .786 for a Shortstop with little power is phenomenal.

    Lindor also has 17 errors on the season and owns a career .962 fielding percentage, so there’s really no reason to rush him.

  • still can’t remember

    Well I thought I remembered Tampa doing that for Matt Moore but apparently it was only 5-8 years. I think it’d be interesting to structure the deal so that incentives could guarantee contact escalators

  • Scott

    So the Cards would trade 2-3 prospects for ONE .251 hitting SS (lifetime .274 hitter)
    No thanks…..you could have ONE high prospect or 2 mid-level
    Mo is not that desperate considering our offense

  • Jaker

    DON’T CALL MY FRIEND A TROLL. MY DADDY CAN BEAT UP YOUR DADDY!

  • hrd53

    The guy who hit a homerun off of Jose Canseco’s head? Sign me up!

  • Jason Curry

    There is no way in _______that the Cards give up any of the major-league ready prospects for Cabrera. A guy like Tyrell Jenkins maybe, but Rosenthal, Martinez, and Wacha will be 3/5 of the Cards future rotation. A rotation that could quite frankly be the best in baseball.