July 30, 2014

NBA Rumor: Internet speculation on a Kyrie Irving departure

While we don’t necessarily believe this and believe it has no foundation, there have been some Internet rumblings this morning about the potential of Kyrie Irving leaving the Cleveland Cavaliers. Thus, we wanted to share with you what has been happening. This is not our endorsement of said rumor and we hope to not lend any additional credence with this headline.

Brandon Tierney of CBS Sports Radio tweeted earlier this morning: “I’ve heard from someone in the know… Kyrie Irving not long for Cleveland.” He later followed up by saying: “I 100% stand by my position regarding Kyrie Irving and the Cavs. If you follow me, you know I am not reckless when it comes to such items…”

Tierney hosts a radio show during weekday mornings with Dana Jacobson and Tiki Barber.

Irving, 21, will enter his third year in the NBA this coming fall. He was an All-Star this past season, averaging 22.5 points, 5.9 assists and 3.7 rebounds per game in his 59 contests.

Per the website HoopsHype, Irving is under contractual obligation with the team for 2013-14, then the Cavs own another team option for 2014-15. After that, there is a qualifying offer on the table for 2015-16, meaning he’d be a restricted free agent that summer regardless — and likely would agree to a max long-term deal of some kind. Cleveland could match any offer on the table that summer of 2015 with Irving holding no decision over his future.

It’s highly unprecedented for any actually productive rookie first-rounder to leave a team after his rookie deal, because of the rights the NBA gives to teams owning such players. At the absolute earliest, it appears Irving couldn’t leave until summer 2016, which would be assuming he agrees just to the qualifying offer for that previous season and then becomes an unrestricted free agent. Such an occurrence is also a extreme rarity for a All-Star No. 1 overall pick.

File this rumor under the category of “speculation only.” There appears to be no other confirmation of this rumbling and such an occurrence is at least three years away from even becoming remotely possible. Even if such a rumor was true, it wouldn’t actually matter for a very long time.

The Cavs obviously have attempted to improve their team drastically this offseason, with the draft picks of Anthony Bennett and Sergey Karasev, plus the free agent signings of Earl Clark, Jarrett Jack and Andrew Bynum. They won only 24 games last season but expect to compete for the playoffs in 2013-14 under new head coach Mike Brown.

Update: Kyrie Irving just tweeted the following: “I wish I knew ‘someone in the know’ for all my facts, maybe I would go into journalism as well!!”

FOX 8′s John Telich also has the following:

So yes, this rumor is just that: a rumor. Ignore as you wish.

[Related: The Diff: Fun Cleveland Cavs facts fans keep forgetting]

  • http://www.clevelandfrowns.com/ Cleveland Frowns

    If you’ve proven anything today, Pat, it’s that there was all kinds of need for my first comment today.

    A CBS journalist says that his report is based on information from someone in the know. To say that the report has “no foundation” is to call him a liar and/or a hack, and to do that without any evidence of either is just not a legitimate response.

    If you ever manage to figure out just what nonsense you’ve posted here today, you’ll be free to adopt another anonymous commenting handle and nobody will ever know, so at least there’s that.

  • Vindictive_Pat

    That’s a good argument and I have to say you beat me with it. Good win Frowns. Maybe next time try to keep a little composure, respect, and dignity to go with the win. Until next time…

  • saggy

    I know who you are.

  • Vindictive_Pat

    Thanks buddy!

  • http://www.clevelandfrowns.com/ Cleveland Frowns

    Thanks, Pat. I’m glad you came around. Next time, as long as you don’t break the rude + stupid rule, everything will remain perfectly respectful and dignified.

  • Harv 21

    One nice thing about WFNY is the policy set by the site-gurus regarding comment tone, and the way commenters tend to self-regulate. I respect your opinion but not this tone. Please, taste your words before you hit “post.” Help keep this website civil.

  • http://www.redright88.com/ Tom_RedRight88

    What is the statute of limitations on a “report” like this? If Irving plays in Cleveland until he’s 32 and then leaves, is the “report” still valid? It is so open-ended that it is hard to say. How long of a time frame does “not long” cover, exactly?

  • Steve_Not_Chad

    Well first he says “Not long for Cleveland”, than he says “Long term, to clarify”. That’s a contradiction and a backtrack.

  • http://www.clevelandfrowns.com/ Cleveland Frowns

    Spare me the sanctimony, “Harv.” Someone dares post perfectly reasonable ideas here that don’t fall into the category of “reactive homerism,” and they’re ganged up on for it. My tone is perfectly called for.

  • 2Fast4U1701

    Pat,
    I just wanted to take a moment and say that I not only understood what you were trying to say but that I enjoyed the humour as well :)
    As for Frowns rude behaviour……..Are you familiar with Hanlon’s Razor ? Which States:
    “Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity”

  • Vindictive_Pat

    Thx 2F4U, appreciate it. I can’t say that I’ve heard of Hanlon’s Razor before, or any razor for that matter other than Ockham’s. Good stuff :)

  • Harv 21

    Why do you put my internet name in quotes- did I gang up on you, “Frowns”? Sounds like it all started when they tried to hit you back. I didn’t intend sanctimony, intended as protectiveness of a place with a vibe I can tolerate. Your tone can become common here unless it’s called out. What I’m suggesting: if you choose (or cannot discipline yourself against) a style of engagement that involves calling others stupid, go to one of the many other sites where it’s considered ok. It’s offensive to most here.

  • http://www.clevelandfrowns.com/ Cleveland Frowns

    The quotes are for when I argue with “an internet name.”
    It’s easy to be civil when nobody says anything of any consequence, of course. It’s understood that this is what you’re most comfortable with. Others are more tolerable of nonsense being called as much.

  • http://www.clevelandfrowns.com/ Cleveland Frowns

    “Kyrie wants out of Cleveland as soon as his rookie contract will allow it.”

    There is nothing contradictory about that.

  • http://www.clevelandfrowns.com/ Cleveland Frowns

    This isn’t difficult. If Kyrie ends up signing another contract with the Cavs, Tierney was clearly wrong.

  • mgbode

    it is quite possible to have heated interactions on these boards while remaining civil.