August 26, 2014

Weeden’s big chance: will he buck trend of bad Browns QB play?

brandon weedenWe are about to enter our 15th season of the “new Browns” era. 15 years. Wow. To paraphrase the great Thornton Melon in “Back To School”- 15 years, seems like yesterday. And you know what a lousy day yesterday was. I’ve noticed we haven’t seen a lot of “15th anniversary” stories floating around. It is not hard to decipher why. To put it bluntly, the Browns haven’t won a lot. And it’s not as if there has been a lot to get excited about.

Sure, the 2002 season spawned a 9-7 record and a wild card playoff run. But if not for some things breaking their way in week 17 and a last second goal line stand against an already-clinched Atlanta Falcons, the new Browns still wouldn’t have a playoff appearance since their return. 2007 was as exciting of a season as we have seen in the last 15 years, but we all know that was fools gold and a product of a last place schedule. You can only play the teams in front of you, but the 10-6 Browns beat one over .500 team – the Seattle Seahawks – at home in overtime.

You would like to think that there have been some exciting years, but really, these two and 2010 where Colt McCoy came out of nowhere and a tough defense kept the team in games, it has been mostly a boring decade and a half of football. Stability hasn’t been the Browns strong suit. One regime after another failed, but possibly the worst thing that happened to the Browns was the quick success of the previous two expansion teams before them – the Carolina Panthers and the Jacksonville Jaguars. Both teams were given significant advantages when they came into the league in 1995 and were in their conference championship games in their second year in existence. Because of this, the NFL made sure the Browns weren’t going to come in and fire out of the gates.

They were late putting together a coaching staff, had a horrific pool of talent to choose from, and were run by a GM who had no vision in Dwight Clark. Naturally, the Browns returned the year AFTER Peyton Manning was the number one pick. Instead, they were left choosing between Tim Couch and Akili Smith. 14 years later they were picking fourth – a top two pick would have given them either Andrew Luck or Robert Griffin III. They had the ammo to go up and get into the top two via the trade, but now deposed “Football Czar” (aka “check casher”) Mike Holmgren didn’t pull the trigger. Instead, the Redskins did and RGIII is already the talk of the NFL. Whatever the story was that Holmgren spun about the Rams and Redskins prior relationship aside, the Browns still were searching for a QB and wound up taking a 29-year old Brandon Weeden late in the first round. This was considered a reach by many, but it was clear that then GM Tom Heckert and coach Pat Shurmur were not Colt McCoy guys.

Weeden showed flashes as a rookie, but nothing close that would capture the city or the league like fellow rookie QBs Luck, Griffin, and Russell Wilson did. In all fairness, the offense Brandon was handed to run was ill-suited for him. The jury is still clearly out on him and new Browns GM Mike Lombardi was an outspoken critic of Weeden’s on the NFL Network. To Lombardi and Joe Banner’s credit, they have hired the perfect head coach and offensive coordinator to take advantage of what Weeden does best in Rob Chudzinski and Norv Turner. If Weeden can’t succeed in this system, then we will back back at square one, looking for a QB at the 2014 NFL Draft.

I saw CBS Sports NFL write Pete Prisco put out a list ranking the 32 NFL coaches. It’s not a coincidence to see the QBs attached to the top guys on the list. Bill Belichick has Tom Brady. Sean Payton has Drew Brees. Mike McCarthy has Aaron Rodgers. Mike Tomlin has Ben Roethlisberger. It is easy to see why the Browns have spent the last 14 years near the bottom of the NFL – it’s a QB league and they haven’t had one. Bad QB play spawns losses. Losses spawn coaching changes. Multiple failed coaches spawn GM changes. The Quarterback is the most important position in all of team sports. You can’t be successful without one. Sure, there are anomalies – the Trent Dilfer led Ravens is the most obvious, but we aren’t that lucky around here.

You look at the list of Browns opening day starting QBs and all you can do is shake your head:

1999 Ty Detmer
2000 Tim Couch
2001 Couch
2002 Kelly Holcomb
2003 Holcomb
2004 Jeff Garcia
2005 Trent Dilfer
2006 Charlie Frye
2007 Charlie Frye
2008 Derek Anderson
2009 Brady Quinn
2010 Jake Delhomme
2011 Colt McCoy
2012 Brandon Weeden

Barring injury, Weeden will be the first QB since Charlie Frye in 06 and 07 to start Opening Day in back to back years. Think about that for a second. Keep in mind Frye played one game in 07 before being replaced by Derek Anderson. That is about as depressing as it gets. And it is not exactly like the now 30-year old Weeden is this can’t miss QB prospect that is well thought of by GMs, coaches, scouts, and analysts. Hopefully Chudzinski and Turner will be able to get the best out of him and take advantage of his big arm. Weeden was clearly miscast in the Shurmur “4 yard pass” offense and I don’t believe we have seen him even close to his best.

Weeden has better weapons at his disposal than he did last year with Josh Gordon (post suspension) and Greg Little coming into their own, along with the addition of veteran slot receiver Devone Bess. Speedy Travis Benjamin and former Bill David Nelson should also be contributors. I also expect a big year from Jordan Cameron who should be heavily featured if Chudzinski’s track record with Tight Ends precedes him. Don’t forget Kellen Winslow III had his best season in 2007 when Chud called the plays as the Browns offensive coordinator. A healthy Trent Richardson toting the ball 20-25 times a game and catching passes out of the backfield certainly won’t hurt.

One thing is for sure, Lombardi and Banner have done what they can to help Weeden succeed. If he struggles, the Browns will once again be looking at a new QB running the show in 2014.

  • fritz

    Thornton Melon…or Jason Goldfarb’s senior quote

  • Toddyus

    I just hope the fortunes – or misfortunes – of Jimmy Haslam III don’t make all of this moot.

  • mgbode

    I prefer to think of Shurmur’s offense as “the whole 9 yards”
    a shame you need 10 yards for a 1st down

  • mgbode

    “One thing is for sure, Lombardi and Banner have done what they can to help Weeden succeed.”

    hiring coaches – yes.
    getting WR depth – sure, though the starters are carry-overs
    backup QBs – I think we’re better there too (not sure it helps Weeden though)

    however, we are sitting on $30mil in cap room. we haven’t yet extended our young corps. and, we didn’t look to improve at TE (Watson gone), OG (no major moves), or FB (Alex Smith gone).

    not as egregious as what we didn’t do with our secondary, but it’s still there as well.

  • Harv 21

    “Instead, they were left choosing between Tim Couch and Akili Smith.”

    Nope. Policy was saying quite publicly that they had to pick a QB first overall to start the franchise, and they decided Donovan McNabb just wasn’t at the Couch/Smith level. And they weren’t going to get all those extra picks to let N.O. draft Rickey Williams.

  • https://twitter.com/jimkanicki jimkanicki

    perfectly said.

    i would also add that banner remains in full obfuscation mode with his pluto interview. he actually said that they spent 90m in free agency this year.

  • mgbode

    I hate when they use the total contract number that will never actually be seen. Use the 2013 number. They can even use the money spent rather than the cap number if they really want. It’d still be an improvement.

    Also: it’s less than a week from training camp, WFNY wrote about the Browns QB situation, and there are less than 10 comments (and half of the comments here are from me). Mind.Officially.Blown.

    *slow*clap* for the WFNY community at large

  • saggy

    i am REAL interested to see how this season works out. I think I am the only one here who has stated that I expect playoffs from this team. WIth the decline of Baltimore and Pitt, and with Cincy being, well, Cincy, i think we have a great opportunity.

    I think Weeden should thrive in this system, and i am excited to see him throw the ball. I am NOT a big Weeden supporter but I believe he will excel this season, as long as our OL and WRs stay healthy.

    10-6 is within reach.

  • saggy

    ok, maybe 9-7.

  • mgbode

    49ers add to their stable of ex-Browns (Eric Wright just traded from TB – SF)

  • dan

    I don’t actually blame Clark and Policy for not having done so, but the Browns could have drafted Kurt Warner in the supplemental draft and then taken the New Orleans deal for Ricky Williams and used all the resulting picks to build around him… if you want the most depressing “could have been” option.

  • Kildawg

    Some of us actually have other things to do then put comments on every WFNY article. Could you give those that don’t have as much time to put their 2 cents in? Hopefully Norv has our offense looking like the one Dallas had 20 years ago.

  • Steve

    This suggests that the Browns would have taken good players with those extra picks. Even if the odds say they should have gotten at least lucky on a few picks, I still have serious doubts that would have happened.

  • mgbode

    I was saying it was a good thing we can have a weeden article without everybody going crazy.

  • Ben Frambaugh

    I think that Cincy is actually finally on the right track though…which isn’t to say that we couldn’t eek into the playoffs (if stuff mostly works out like we intend it to.)
    We’ve got some talent…but how (and when) that talent meshes…that’s the issue.