Craig: The takeaways from this week’s game seem to be setting the tone for the rest of the season. We’re going to continually look to define Brandon Weeden. On one side there will be those who seem to defend him out of hope, those that will bash him out of preemptive judgement, and those that continue to sit and watch and take it all in.
Where are you guys on Brandon Weeden at this point? Do you still have hope and expectations of Weeden that he can be the Browns quarterback? Have you given up on the guy and just wish the Browns could move on right now? Are you in the middle hoping that Weeden somehow proves to be a decent placeholder?
Andrew: Well, first things first, it’s been one game. I have to keep telling myself that, because every last fiber of my instinct is telling me that what we saw is reality. And it probably is. I just feel like we’ve seen this movie before. It’s pretty much the same one we’ve seen for the last 7 years or whatever. BUT…..it’s only 1 game. Brandon Weeden theoretically could get better.
But I don’t think he will. I think he’s just a bad QB. I wish the Browns could move on now, but there are no better options. For better or worse, we have to watch him play QB for 15 more games. Then next year, the Browns will try again. Draft a QB, hope he can be the guy. Until the Browns find a serviceable NFL QB, 5-6 wins is what we will continue to get year in and year out.
Jacob: Ya know, it’s Week 1 after an optimistic off-season and preseason. For starters, I thought the Miami Dolphins were better than folks gave them credit for: They went 7-9 a year ago and made a number of splashy, albeit controversial offseason moves. Their talent is real and they’ve proven more than the Browns.
For now, Brandon Weeden is the only real option in 2013. Obviously, I think we’ll all have our long-term concerns if he doesn’t show any of the improvement he flashed in the preseason. But for now, I’ve still got some slight benefit of the doubt in Rob Chudzinski and Norv Turner, successful veteran offensive minds, to turn things around for Weeden while he’s the only guy available. I’m obviously hoping that’s the case. I’m just cautiously optimistic.
Scott: I just wish we could have the perfect storm of sorts. Last season, with a healthy offensive line, Weeden seemingly had all the time in the world, but would fall victim to his own decisions. We said he was a rookie abd that he needed additional shotgun formations. It was only one week, but Opening Day this time around was brutal. This time, however, it’s his offensive line which is causing the consternation. I can’t help but feel that these guys are never given a fair shake—weapons, system, whatever—but then I see how other young quarterbacks step right in and win (or come close to it) and all benefit of the doubt flies out the window.
TD: It doesn’t matter what we think or what the fans think. All that matters is what Joe Banner and Mike Lombardi think. I think they have already made up their minds. Give Weeden enough rope to hang himself and he will, then make a change. The QB draft was weak, so they stuck with him.
I want Weeden to be good and I know it is one game, but we all saw a guy who looked the same way he do last year. Big arm, little touch on short passes, stares down one receiver, and has trouble with pressure.
Other than that, he was great.
If he was 23 I think I would have more patience with his development at this stage. But in a league where rookie QBs have come in and been great right away, Weeden looks more like Blaine Gabbert than Andrew Luck.
Craig: I’m similar to a lot of you. I think he can be better than what he played week one, obviously. I just feel as if I can already see the ceiling and it is far too low.
Brandon Weeden has a nice arm. He seems to have very little ingrained quarterback instinct like Andrew Luck has. Very few quarterbacks have Andrew Luck’s instinct, of course. But if you look around at the other rookies from last year, guys like RG3, Russell Wilson and even Ryan Tannehill have some additional athleticism and mobility to buy them time to make up for lack of instant recognition on the first read. When Weeden misses his first read, he starts to get happy feet, can’t escape the pocket or otherwise extend plays.
Even Kirk Cousins – who was extremely limited as a rookie – was capable of being rolled out (continually) in order to let the team win with him. I’m afraid unless Weeden can somehow have the instinctual light go on, this is who he is.
Jacob: To Andrew’s point: “Until the Browns find a serviceable NFL QB, 5-6 wins is what we will continue to get year in and year out.”
But you know, it depends how you define serviceable, as Craig was rolling down the list of rookies. Because we also certainly haven’t been able to find easy replacements for players like Weeden in free agency over the years, so it’s not exactly replacement level. It’s just tough for me to consider he’s currently one of the 3-4 worst QBs in the NFL, which I guess is ultimately true and incredibly disheartening.
Craig: Well? Did he get picked up in anyone’s fantasy league? If so, how many teams are there in your league?
Scott: Sadly, I selected him with the very last skill position pick in my 16-team league as a QB2. I felt that there was a chance he could provide sporadic value given Norv’s offense and a few additional weapons.
Last night, I dropped him for a back-up tight end.
Andrew: I define serviceable as a QB that you are comfortable with starting for your team. A QB that, when you look around the NFL, you see plenty of teams with QB situations you don’t envy. Is there a single NFL team that would say today that they wish they had Weeden rather than their guy? I don’t think there is. He is truly one of the worst starting QBs in the league, and his age just makes this situation untenable. That’s just reality.
Jacob:I’m an intense fantasy guy. I play in a 10-team league. 15 QBs in our auction went for $2+. Some team grabbed Weeden as one of three $1 guys at the end and, for some unknown reason, still has him on their roster.
But the guy who did that also runs a Twitter account called @justsmileCLE and our league is notoriously pro-Cleveland. So whatever.
Agreed with Andrew though. It does appear he’s one of the worst. It’s sad.
And that’s about enough of that conversation. So, where do you stand on Weeden right now? Or are you sitting? You know… on a fence or something?