Would Browns trade down to draft Derek Carr?

Not many Derek Carr fans around these parts.

Not many Derek Carr fans around these parts.

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I lust for the day when the Cleveland Browns draft rumors won’t involve first round quarterbacks. In order for that to be the case, the Browns will have to find one, probably in the first round. So, the only question is where in the first round? As the Browns are set to host Carr in Cleveland this week, Pro Football Talk suggests maybe Ray Farmer and the Browns could take a page out of the Ravens’ book.

They could trade down from No. 4 and draft Carr in the teens, like the Ravens did when acquiring Joe Flacco six years ago. This would give the Browns an extra pick or two as the latest new coaching staff tries to put together a team that fits the new schemes and systems.

One of my biggest complaints about the Browns — as I’ve stated time and again — is that under Mike Holmgren, they seemed to constantly lose the “poker game” aspects of the NFL draft. The Browns went and got guys they wanted, which is good, but they seemed to pay steep prices. I’m really hoping that the Browns stop losing the poker game under Ray Farmer.

Maybe that includes confidently trading down, gaining more assets and still getting a player they covet. Now, whether or not they should be coveting Derek Carr is another conversation…

[Related: “Growing sentiment” that Browns nab Carr at No. 4]

Photo: Cary Edmondson/USA Today Sports

  • RGB

    Stay put.
    Unless Sammy is gone…

  • eldaveablo

    I’m terrified of Derek Carr. I really hope this is just a smokescreen.

  • jewpants47

    i dont like Carr at all either. he can’t face the pass rush even a little

  • Natedawg86

    Get the elite game changers. Draft a QB later pick. Carr at 4 or even teens is a Browns move

  • jewpants47

    there are 4 elite prospects.
    we have the 4th pick.
    seems so simple, i cant wait to see how the botch it this year.
    i hate being a browns fan

  • https://twitter.com/jimkanicki jimkanicki

    i’m sure there all good reasons to dislike a QB but manning and brady wilt under a pass rush. that’s the whole book on ‘beating good QBs’– apply pressure. (that’s why you can’t have too many pass rushers.) (the only guy i can think of who really stands in under pressure and does it well is roethlisberger.)

    best you can do is find a qb who reads his progressions fast and has a quick accurate release. does carr do this? hard to say with deruyter’s hurrying ball control possession passing offense. but at least we know carr has an internal clock.

    what you don’t want to the guy who bails out of the pocket at the first sign of pressure because that sort free-lancing made him a very successful QB in high school and college.

    i’m not saying i’m totally pro-carr. but i think some of the critiques are off base.

  • saggy

    it’s funny you say that about Big Ben because i have a suspicion that Bortles is the guy the Browns really want, and I think they’ll take him at 4 if he’s there. Not what i would do but that’s probably why I’m writing on a fanblog right now, and not working in an NFL front office.

  • DPatton

    Too funny…

  • dwhit110

    Funny Craig, trading down from #4 to get Carr in the teens instead of figuring a way to do it with the 26 (and maybe using another pick to jump up a few) *is* losing the poker game.

  • CB Everett

    Stay on target. Stay on target…

  • Garry_Owen

    We’ll probably trade up for fear that all 4 will be gone.

  • https://twitter.com/jimkanicki jimkanicki

    now that i think of it, bradshaw was the same way. damn. steelers.

  • MrCleaveland

    Exactly, dwhit. We have a ton of picks, so if we want to deal, it would be much smarter to trade up from 26 than to trade down from 4.

  • The_Real_Shamrock

    Kellen Winslow redux?

  • The_Real_Shamrock

    I don’t think Sammy will be the guy at #4.

  • RGB
  • The_Real_Shamrock
  • CB Everett

    Or if they’re worried one of those prospects is falling, they could always trade #4 and #26 picks for say, the 6th pick.

  • http://twitter.com/bbo13 B-bo

    Would they? Yes. Because that would be a very Browns thing to do. Personally, I’d rather they take someone with pro talent.

  • The_Matt_Of_Akron

    Greg Cosell just wrote that Logan Thomas from VT is more pro-ready than Cam Newton. Who watched VT last year? “Formerly” Vindictive Pat, what’s your take?

  • mgbode

    Put it this way, NFL draft prep just went plaid

    http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mcuqml2z8O1qlvxm2o14_r2_400.gif

  • Natedawg86

    Can we trade both first rounders this year to move up one slot?

  • Garry_Owen

    We can. And may.

  • JNeids

    I wish we could kick it into Ludicrous Speed to get to the draft already.

  • saggy

    unfortunately, we’re at now now.

  • Hopwin
  • deebo

    How about that strategy in 2009 of drafting two receivers back to back in the second round, two linebackers back to back in the second and fourth rounds, and two defensive backs back to back in the sixth round with a center from traded down picks and running back thrown in, in the first and sixth rounds respectively? That was the Brownsiest.

  • Riz

    Most of the draft reports I have seen said that Thomas wouldnt even be a QB in the NFL. Now he’s more ready to go than Cam?!? Interesting…

  • Riz

    Drafting Carr before the 3rd round is a Browns move

  • mgbode

    when will then be now?

  • Wow

    Trade down? Come on, don’t they ever learn?

  • Kildawg

    Soon.

  • Kildawg

    Hey, we still at least have that first round center who hasn’t missed a snap despite a mid-season appendectomy. The Butt Fumble guy was taken with the pick we traded out of, and he was just cut… by the Jets (feel free to laugh out loud).

  • steve-o

    I can’t think of any instance where a team successfully traded down in the first round for a franchise QB, but maybe the Browns think they can be the first.