Johnny Manziel leaves Panthers game with injury
December 21, 2014Browns make it interesting but fall to Panthers 17-13
December 21, 2014The Browns made a good defensive play when they put Cam Newton under pressure and forced an interception. Barkevious Mingo got his hand on Newton’s arm and Billy Winn made a diving interception. Winn wasn’t touched and Jordan Poyer grabbed the ball, returning it all the way to the end zone. On the field, the referee, Ed Hochuli, said into his on-field mic that Winn “gave himself up” on the play and that the Browns would take over at the spot of the interception.
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It was a big call for the Panthers. At the time, it gave the Panthers a chance to defend their lead instead of allowing the Browns to tie it at 10. They did defend when they forced the Browns into a field goal try, which they converted making it 10-6 instead of 10-10.
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I’m a bit confused as to how fast someone could be considered giving themselves up. Poyer grabs that ball almost immediately. If anything the reason he seems to not try to get up is he feels someone trying to grab the ball, and until it registers that it’s a teammate he tries to clasp it harder.
They did not blow the whistle either. So the ref decided after the play that he “gave himself up”. Worst call of the year.
While I disagree with the way the explained it, it looks like the result of the play was actually correct, as described by Mike Pereira on the broadcast. From the rulebook (it talks about the defense taking it from the offense, so it’s not 100% clear, but I’m inclined to believe Pereira and take it to mean either team):
A.R. 7.8 Second-and-10 on A30. Runner A1 breaks clear and is on the 50 when he slips and falls down. B1 takes the ball from A1’s hands when A1 is on the ground.
Ruling: Blow whistle to kill play. May not take ball unless runner is on his feet. A’s ball first-and-10 on the 50
I have never seen this in my life, and I heard his explanation too, but seems like a crappy rule to me that makes no sense especially in the replay era.
Lets see how many different ways we can lose. Watching the Browns game is intersting because we always see rules come out that we never heard of before.
Taking a helmet off during a play
Deceiving the defense (Manziel pass play)
Taking the ball from a guy on the ground
These last couple of games felt to me pretty imbalanced against the Browns in the officiating department. Maybe I’m just sensitive. This call was absurd. The other play that had me fired up was a pass to Cameron where the defender clearly had Cameron’s right arm pinned back before the ball arrived.
Not that it matters at this point. Playoffs are gone and a loss only improves our draft position. Sigh…
hah. wow. freaking wow.
I was waiting for them to call a penalty on Mingo because he didnt get up right away when his arm was trapped underneath the receiver
Every time I see this ref on the field I cringe. Worst calls in the league, absolutely worst. Illegal shift? Watch the tape. Gave himself up? watch the tape. Too bad the nfl doesn’t grade or retain based on competency. No, it has to be seniority, which shares its Latin root with senile. A total waste of skin.
Speaking of bad calls, what about the thug in the Panther secondary, not only launching himself helmet-first at the receiver, but then dancing around like he’s special? When is one of the Browns going to grow a set and lay a-holes like this out? Next play or hey, don’t wait, take him out while he’s doing his monkey dance. Clearly he should have been ejected. PI and taunting? They’re letting the league descend to the lowest-common denominator.
I cannot find a source to back me up here, but I believe “Deceiving the Defense” became a rule after the Browns own Michael “Thriller” Jackson pretended to go off the field after 3rd down, only to catch a touchdown pass on a fake field goal. So, once again, the Browns did this to themselves really.