Wayward Indians: 18 former Tribesmen on MLB Free Agent List
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November 10, 2015Two weeks ago, Robert Turbin had appeared to be in line to take carries away from Isaiah Crowell. On Tuesday, the Cleveland Browns announce that they have waived the running back to make room for offensive lineman Darrian Miller.
Turbin appeared in just three games for the Browns despite being claimed off of waivers prior to the start of the season. He rushed for 60 yards on 18 carries and caught just two passes for eight yards. The Browns employed Turbin for what was six weeks of rehabilitation for just three weeks of actual production. Known mostly as the player whom the Browns added when they waived wide receiver Terrelle Pryor, Turbin is simply another name on the long list of failed additions at positions of skill in Berea.
Miller is a 6-foot-5-inch, 307-pound rookie out of Kentucky. He signed with the Browns as a practice squad player prior to the season and will now be elevated to the 53-man roster. As we know nothing about him, we turn to the team’s media guide where we find that Miller is quite the entrepreneur, starting his own lawn care business in the eighth grade. He enjoys reading (particularly short stories, because he’s a millennial), and still draws imaginary landscapes to this day. A renaissance man, Miller also likes to cook and experiment with special recipes that he calls his own.
[Shrugs]
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Ray Farmer please!
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If the object of the NFL was to make as many moves as possible with the bottom 3rd of the roster with making absolutely no impact at all….. Ray Farmer would be the World Champion.
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Sooooo we have 2 WRs Injured and we cut a RB to make room for a lineman. Makes perfect sense.
Ray…
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Ray c’mon…
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Hawkins and Hartline have been cleared from the protocol. Bitonio’s out for a bit. Team can’t run the ball anyway.
When is Dwayne Bowe getting his walking papers?
but – and this is NOT to be funny – that’s what he does. that’s what he thinks he is good at. he is always looking for that “sleeper,” and someone needs to tell him this isn’t fantasy football. he has his eyes so stuck on that 4th-round value pick that he doesn’t even understand the value of a first-rounder. He consistently misses the forest for the trees.
Thank heavens they dumped Terrelle Pryor.
And thank heavens they feel the need to sign a guy from the practice squad, since they only drafted a versatile (read: can fail at center AND guard) OL in the first round this year.
I have always been against the Erving selection. To me, this is their way of discretely saying they made a mistake.
I’m wondering if these are all a bunch of “screw you” moves before he gets fired.
Should we be taking bets on whether Erving actually starts this weekend?
If Erving doesn’t start this weekend it will definitively mean that the Browns messed up with the pick. A first round selection who plays multiple positions who can’t bust into the starting lineup after an injury? yep, that’s him.
Why would you look any further into a sure thing like a first-rounder? Throw your darts, and move your attention to something that requires some savvy football IQ… like finding old QB’s with more potential than any of your current receivers, or drawing from the Seahawk’s discard pile two years in a row.
Can you blame him?
That’s rhetorical, right?
Actually, I thought Turbin was the most powerful, decisive and had the best vision of the running backs. But a huge, heavy back with fumbling issues – yikes, how does that even happen. It’s like every offensive skill position Farmer touches turns to dust.
But the regret about Pryor from non-OSU alums I don’t get. College draftees coached up at that position for only two years are considered raw and risky, and this guy was a late 20-something trying to convert in weeks. This after leaving Cincy just last spring, where he still professed dreams to return to QB. This was the project of projects. He couldn’t stay healthy at the new position before he was ever hit and never demonstrated anything even in an exhibition game. And not a single team has thought him worth a look, even on a practice squad. Won’t blame Farmer for cutting Pryor. The whole thing smelled like Jimmy fantasy to me.
Right? Because now there’s no chance to get Pryor after he was snatched up so quickly by…no one. Not a single team. WAY TO GO, BROWNS.
I’m fine with a laugh at the general absurdity of this situation (though really, what harm did it do to give a guy who at least looks the part a shot?), but anyone genuinely upset about Pryor at this point is trying way too hard to find things to be upset about. Again, Pryor has done nothing since. And you know as well as I he wouldn’t have developed here, because our players don’t seem to do that.
When has that stopped us from answering anyway?
So not true. Pryor has set land speed records while trying out for multiple teams. Just ask his agent.
Is THAT rhetorical?
Shut up, I’m having a rhetorical conversation.
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What does rhetorical even mean? Nevermind… don’t answer that!
Rhetorical, eh? …. 8!
Joe Thomas noted Erving is starting this week.
Joe Thomas also said that Johnny Manziel was a changed man.
By all accounts, he is when he’s within the confines of Berea. Perhaps, they should force him to live out of those offices.
Like Wilkie Snead?
He’s had almost 300 carrier rush/receptions and until this past week had only ONE fumble. Fumbling issues is definitely not a problem he has. Fumbles on a QB-RB exchange are a matter of practice reps. As a Turbin fan I’m glad they just waived him instead of realizing he just needed more reps. Dallas is pretty high on the waiver priority list and he will absolutely destroy it there.
I’m interested to find out who said: “Instead of drafting Mike Evans we should use the 53rd roster spot on this QB conversion project that nobody else has any interest in” —because that person has no business in any sort of decision-making position.
That’s a powerful stat so I stand corrected – he’s not generally a “fumbler,” let’s say he had fumbling issues here. But still can’t absolve him. Since the QB is not going to alter his style snap to snap it’s up to Turbin not to lose two in one game. He has a big issue, by some name. New RBs come on to rosters and get snaps without fumbling all the time.
Well, Mike Evans went #7 overall, so he would have been the major investment that year. But I hear you – he would have proved a wiser choice than both Browns first rounders, plus their 3rd and fourth rounders lumped together. Honestly, just debating people who do backbends trying to justify Farmer’s picks is old. As if top picks don’t normally contribute immediately, as if their talent is not normally obvious from the first time they take the field. The locals are self-medicating on “just wait and see” because the alternative is too dark.
*raises hand* … guilty !!
I completely agree it’s not something you want to see happening nor tolerable. But, I think a team will be better off in the long run if they make decisions in context and with some introspective. I think the Pats are the perfect example of this. Dion Lewis had some horrible fumbles this season but BB didn’t overreact because he didn’t think benching him was best for the team in the long run. Turbin was looking like a very solid RB… So to overreact to something that can completely be attributed to new RB/new QB handoff/rotating wheel of RBs… It’s just another example of why Cleveland always sucks. The right way to handle the situation would have been to give Turbin all the 1st team snaps in practice and a 15-20 carry game the following week to see what you get.